The king is dead, long live the king...err, iPhone!
 

The 770 is now superceded by a superior product. iPhone.

Re: The king is dead, long live the king...err, iPhone!
 

Was that sarcasm?

No VoIP on iPhone!
 

I commented yesterday on the absence of any mention of VoIP in the iPhone launch. Today, Cisco/Linksys sued Apple for infringing their iPhone trademark. Very interesting how this is playing out.

What Cisco/Linksys said: "Today's iPhone is not tomorrow's iPhone. The potential for convergence of the home phone, cell phone, work phone and PC is limitless, which is why it is so important for us to protect our brand,"

Apple's response on CNBC (paraphrasing): Their trademark is for IPhone as in IP(internet protocol)hone and they sell a VoIP phone. However, our product is a cell phone and it is called iPhone (as in iPod). We think the lawsuit is meritless.

Analysis: You can see that the companies didn't settle. Unless Apple relents and calls it the Apple phone or something else, there will be no VoIP clients on the iphone.

edit: my apologies for mistakenly calling it a launch. the product of course won't be available for at least six months

Re: The king is dead, long live the king...err, iPhone!
 

:rolleyes:
I want to see how fast can Apple come up with applications you want to see ported.... where in the 770 is open source.... Remeber this is going to be a lock device meaning you wont be able to install your own applications only the ones apple or cingular wants you too... let me rephrase that.. "widgets"
?!?
Nahhh I am ok ill pass

Re: No VoIP on iPhone!
 

This is classic! Didn't apple just threaten to sue a company for making a device that has the name pod in it - yet has nothing to do with playing music/video etc...? Why yes they did:

http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/14/n...on-brand-name/

Why didn't I become a lawyer?!

Re: The king is dead, long live the king...err, iPhone!
 

Apple don't have a leg to stand on - Go Cisco! :)

Re: The king is dead, long live the king...err, iPhone!
 

I've seen news reports that Cisco and Apple worked out an agreement already. Jobs isn't an idiot. ;)

Re: The king is dead, long live the king...err, iPhone!
 

Aha. Yes. But they'd already worked out an agreement and it fell through. Maybe Apple will refuse and lose their lawsuit! That would make me so happy. They'd have to change the name of the device.... and all the marketing...and... and.... *takes deep breath*...it would be amazing.

Re: The king is dead, long live the king...err, iPhone!
 

Go figure. Both these companies are acting like ******s. Apple for wanting rights to an utterly unimaginative and lame-*** name like iphone, and cisco for the means by which they acquired the rights to the name, sat on it (for years) and then released a run of the mill product haphazardly just before the launch of the apple product. The cisco move seems to smack a tad bit like cybersquatting to me, but whatever. Who really cares.

Re: The king is dead, long live the king...err, iPhone!
 

BTW, I would have called the thing iPWN. Even that would have been a better name. infact Apple may have to resolve to calling it iPWND if cisco has its way.

Re: The king is dead, long live the king...err, iPhone!
 

First off, if you compare the 770 to an iPhone, you don't understand the iPhone's purpose. The iPhone isn't meant to be a geek-toy. My Nokia 770 is my geek-toy. It runs Linux.. I can practically do anything I want .. if a developer make the application. See, the problem I have with my Nokia 770 is the developers ... not that I'm complaining! I mean, a lot of the software is free, and it's great. But I want a nice simple calendar app. GPE calendar doesn't play nice with my .ics files, and Dates is tied to Evolution, which I am trying to get working on my Mac.

Anyways, the point is ... the Nokia 770 is made for a niche market. The iPhone isn't. The iPhone cuts features for sake of stability and usability. I think Multi-touch is a great interface for input in mobile devices.

The Nokia 770 was made to be stand-alone. The iPhone is a satallite device; it syncs with a desktop compter for much of it's data.

Now, I know that a lot of people here are geeks, like I am, however, the iPhone is made for people who don't want to use a terminal to gain root and enable SSH so they can sync with rysnc or whatever. People want things to just work. Contacts, Calendar, Music, Video, etc.

So it's not for many people here, but a lot of average consumer are going to love it. Remember when the iPod came out and people criticized it for it's lack of features?The same thing is happening with the iPhone, it has less features, but it does really friggin well, and with a very intuitive interface.

The Nokia 770/N800 is meant for a totally different market than the iPhone.


And as to the Cisco iPhone trademark ... I think that Apple actually has a chance. Cisco didn't use the trademark within 5 years of obtaining the trademark, and the way they did it was very tenuous.

And there's about 3 companies using the iPhone trademark besides Apple, but Apple is the only one being sued.

https://iphone.nuvio.com/html/
http://www.telephonemagic.com/telede...tel-iphone.htm
http://www.comwave.net/CDN/iPhone/index.htm

So I understand Apple's stance. If Cisco isn't correctly and actively protecting it's trademark, then they don't deserve it.

Re: The king is dead, long live the king...err, iPhone!
 

Well said!