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Bratag 2010-04-05 17:23
Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by fixfox (Post 596484)
Exactly how did you go back to stock? Did you have to do a full reflash or did you just replace the kernel.?

Which kernel file did you use and do you have the original info at ( System: Settings: About Product ) restored?

i
http://www.saunalahti.fi/crailt/

you want zImage-Stock. Yes it requires a flash. My product settings were never gone so can't tell you if it restores those. Don't ask me how I managed to keep them, As far as I know I didnt do anything special.

Matan 2010-04-05 17:23
Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by daperl (Post 596499)
Sorry if this has already been asked and answered, but can someone please post the kernel source diff.
If you simply want to replace 600MHz with higher speed, edit the file arch/arm/mach-omap2/omap3-opp.h, and replace in omap3_mpu_rate_table S600M with 800000000 or any value you want. You can also replace the 0 in the OPP1 line with 125000000 to enable 125MHz clock.

Similarly for S430M in the dsp table.

If you want a more advanced (allowing more than 5 frequencies, more than one frequency per voltage level), see this patch:
http://my.arava.co.il/~matan/770/n900/freqs.diff

Rushmore 2010-04-05 17:30
Re: Overclock the N900?
 
If you like Flash content (games or vids) and can accept the risk, the 800mhz OC is a must-have (at least until 10.1 comes around). Games that were stuttery messes and vids that were stuttery in browser are smooth- no other way to describe them. I am stunned and did not expect it.

I will now go back to my Flash game mining and find some more gold (good) games to save for later :)

UNderworld 2010-04-05 17:36
Re: Overclock the N900?
 
ok, i havent been using the phone as normal, ... Ive used it quite a lost since i o/ced it.. I dont know how it wil stand a normal days usage yet...

but it seems to be a bit easier on battery on idle...

its been on charge up to abt 10am... then i disconnected the charger. and didnt use it till the dark blue shading (wifi)....

see how it chews the battery off like some beast...
When i dont use wifi, the graph seems to go up (slightly).... ????:confused:

I didnt put it on charge, so I dont know why the graph steeps up so much at 5pm...

hope it answers some of your questions...


http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/b...reenshot06.png

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/b...enshot05-1.png


edit: today hasnt been a normal days use either as its bank holiday

Bundyo 2010-04-05 17:36
Re: Overclock the N900?
 
About the flash games: this bookmarklet will open the current Miniclip game in full browser window:

Code:
javascript:(function(){top.location.href=top.location.href+document.getElementById('gameContainer').innerHTML.match(/src\=\"(.*\.swf)\?/)[1];})()

dof250 2010-04-05 17:42
Re: Overclock the N900?
 
http://www.saunalahti.fi/crailt/

Hmm.. that sites states that every 100mhz increase.. reduces the lifetime by half. Thats not true.. its complete bull****. The warning is great, you shouldnt take that away. But dont make statements that are not true. The lifetime WILL BE reduced and the higher you go, the more it will reduce. But saying its halved by every 100mhz is not true.

thecube 2010-04-05 17:42
Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Hi!
where do I find the 900MHz kernel?

madmaze 2010-04-05 17:43
Overclocking the n900 to .9GHz or even 1GHz?
 
Hello everyone,
Have you guys seen this yet?

http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/n...solescence-vi/

Sounds like an interesting idea..
Any one have experience doing this??

I wonder what it does to battery life..

torres76 2010-04-05 17:45
Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thecube (Post 596550)
Hi!
where do I find the 900MHz kernel?
post one on here chum

Bundyo 2010-04-05 17:45
Re: Overclocking the n900 to .9GHz or even 1GHz?
 
And did you see the 1000 messages thread about it? :D

torres76 2010-04-05 17:47
Re: Overclock the N900?
 
i am running 800mhz on my n900 i noticed that i cant access winscp from my pc using sudo gainroot now as the ip address has changed to 127.0.0.1 i have tried rebooting but didnt change.

hqh 2010-04-05 17:48
Re: Overclocking the n900 to .9GHz or even 1GHz?
 
Wow. Thats totally news here.

(You didn't happen to see what's engadget's source for that...?)

Lehto 2010-04-05 17:51
Re: Overclocking the n900 to .9GHz or even 1GHz?
 
Oh wow! Havent herd of dat yo!!!

Icyseanfitz 2010-04-05 17:52
Re: Overclocking the n900 to .9GHz or even 1GHz?
 
^^^hahaha funny stuff

IINexusII 2010-04-05 17:52
Re: Overclock the N900?
 
did the stock 600mhz used to go to 125mhz when idle? because i dont rember it doing so

radiowc 2010-04-05 17:53
Re: Overclocking the n900 to .9GHz or even 1GHz?
 
Get ready to burn your battery life.... BURN!!!!

UNderworld 2010-04-05 17:56
Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by IINexusII (Post 596569)
did the stock 600mhz used to go to 125mhz when idle? because i dont rember it doing so
was 250..........

madmaze 2010-04-05 17:57
Re: Overclocking the n900 to .9GHz or even 1GHz?
 
Ohh damn i should get some sleep lol..
sorry guys..
And thanks Lehto!!

joshv06 2010-04-05 18:04
Re: Overclocking the n900 to .9GHz or even 1GHz?
 
Wow.. If there's any news, Maemo users made it lol

daperl 2010-04-05 18:05
Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by torres76 (Post 596502)
post 1 mate
Yeah, but which one? But his does bring up a good point: What's the first post of a merged thread? Anyway, carry on; great thread.

IINexusII 2010-04-05 18:07
Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by UNderworld (Post 596574)
was 250..........
then that explains why the battery isnt affected because the 800mhz im using now goes to 125

sjgadsby 2010-04-05 18:07
Re: Overclock the N900?
 
The thread "Overclocking the n900 to .9GHz or even 1GHz?" with eight posts has been merged into this thread.

Alex Atkin UK 2010-04-05 18:09
Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stonik (Post 595891)
It actually seems that iPad is running the same single Cortex-A8 core, although clocked into 1 GHz and probably fabricated using 45 nm process. This is just speculation, but for example the Sunspider test is 1/1 comparable to 3GS (10475/17360=0.603).

So overclocked N900 is pretty much on par with iPad, although the comparsion is pretty dumb as it's a completely different kind of vechile.

Second thing - the Snapdragon. According to a Swedish Android site (http://www.swedroid.se/test-av-acer-liquid-s100) A8 @ 550MHz is faster than Snapdragon @768 MHz. For example BenchmarkPi gives 5500 ms for OMAP3430, and 8300 ms for QSD8250.

It might be a software issue, maybe also related to memory bus or speeds, but in general it seems that for MHz per MHz Cortex-A8 is indeed faster than Snapdragon. Even though the cores share a somewhat similar architecture.

And that makes an overclocked N900 pretty much the fastest smartphone on Earth. :D
That's insane, I was actually tempted by iPad but no way I will buy one if its no more powerful than my N900.

Monniman 2010-04-05 18:09
Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Flashed mine in the morning straigth to 900MHz kernel and DAMN! Fast like i wished this alwaysto be! I have lots of extras-devel stuff installed and all desktops filled with contacts, shortcuts and widgets, crammed up so to speak and this thing is really snappy.
I decided to flash the fw too after the speedboost made me greedy and it helped some and also fixed my annoyingly slow file manager.

After a days use, no increased temp as far as i can tell and the speed boost everywhere makes me a happy owner INDEED.
After the pr1.2 i believe this thing will truly be the king of the hill!

I will at some point try the 950 or 1000 just for the heck of it :D

AndrewG 2010-04-05 18:09
Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 596588)
The thread "Overclocking the n900 to .9GHz or even 1GHz?" with eight posts has been merged into this thread.
You should really post that before you merge so we know wtf has been merged

ceroberts75 2010-04-05 18:12
Re: Overclock the N900?
 
also, now that i have had it well over 24 hours and have used 3 batteries ( i use a battery until it dies and in the evening, swap them out to charge completely, then go to bed with one charging)

heat is the same as before, so this is good.

still same heat when on the phone. this is normal

my phone is locked to 3g the entire time, and a lot of wifi (g) yesterday and today.

battery is supprisingly a tad longer IMO. i will have a better idea after the next couple of days.

phone is MUCH snappier and boots MUCH quicker as well.

when i tap my calendar, it used to have to "load" my data and take a few seconds. when i tap it now, it blinks open and is loaded

...same with my contacts (i have 1035 contacts, with most of them w/pictures)

...same with my email...just a little delay now because it is updating 5 imap4 and 1 pop3 email when opening...but after the first opening from boot up is instant (i really wish it would cache what was synced last until next sync, hope this is fixed because it is really annoying)

...same with my conversations....used to "load" now snaps open.

sjgadsby 2010-04-05 18:12
Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewG (Post 596594)
You should really post that before you merge so we know wtf has been merged
As posts are listed chronologically, the end result would be identical.

gabby131 2010-04-05 18:12
Re: Overclock the N900?
 
men....a below average noob like me cant vote on this poll!

where is the "i have no idea" selection??? :)

geneven 2010-04-05 18:15
Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 596588)
The thread "Overclocking the n900 to .9GHz or even 1GHz?" with eight posts has been merged into this thread.
Too bad there apparently isn't a way to merge it so that the posts make sense. For example, someone new to the thread is not going to understand why someone thought the previous post was really funny, because the hilarity has nothing to do with the previous post.

I'm just mentioning this from the point of view of having comprehensible messages, but I guess that isn't important.

But to give an example, the message starting "wow. That's total news here" seems to refer to the previous message, which has nothing to do with it.

hqh 2010-04-05 18:16
Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by geneven (Post 596598)
Too bad there apparently isn't a way to merge it so that the posts make sense.
Some threads would be better deleted than merged.

ceroberts75 2010-04-05 18:19
Re: Overclock the N900?
 
omg...cant keep up with this thread...as you read, it grows.


*off-topic*

is there a way on this blog to actually have it ALWAYS send you the updates like other blogs (that you subscribe to) without haveing to keep opening the link in order to keep getting them?

*back to topic*

teemui 2010-04-05 18:20
Re: Overclock the N900?
 
I have been using the 900mhz kernel now for a day and the speed is amazing, just played psx4all about ~45mins and it never got hot. Battery is draining quiker but that was exptected, but so far so good.

Stonik 2010-04-05 18:24
Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sachin007 (Post 596412)
It would be interesting to see what users would do if there was a report of brickage at 900 or 800mhz. Then what do we do? Risk it or go back to the slower kernel? I am sure there will still be people who will keep running the higher clock speeds at the expense of bricking.
But that would be a very tough decision after experiencing great increase in speed....

Lets see
So what happens if after a few months some of the overclocked devices just die? We all know how hungry the gizmo sites are for big headlines (and clicks), even if there were just a dozen bricked N900s running @1050 MHz. So would it go like:
1) Intel and AMD and the mainboard manufacturers, where the blue smoke is always the user's fault - not hurting the manufacturer's brand.
2) Shocking news of burning Nokia smartphones, which is way too easy to overclock. Most people would probably read just the headlines, and that wouldn't be good for N900.

In my personal opinion, Nokia should actually be there first before anything happens, and put up an overclocking party. They should invite a few famous overclocking teams around the globe with 100 N900s to grill. That's when they could also tell the public audience not to overclock their devices, as it would possibly damage their smartphones. This would - however - promote N900 as the ultimate powertoy with no limits. It certainly would be something that no other phone manufacturer has ever done.

LondonBenji 2010-04-05 18:25
Re: Overclock the N900?
 
I don't think anyone has seen it yet......N900.... running at 900MHz... I think it was meant to be. ;)

Anyway, the "ZOMG TI'z datah sheetz sez continuz uz @ 600jiggahurtz srsly reducez teh lifetimz!!1!11!!!! :eek:" crew still don't seem to be fussed that even their STOCK N900 WILL in fact run continously at 600MHz all the time whilst on charge and no one has commented on how long their N900 stays on charge yet......

And for the "Settings --> About" crew, mine still shows the correct information, for reference I flashed in the following order from the phone:

700MHz
800MHz
900MHz
900MHz - 500MHz DSP.

thecube 2010-04-05 18:27
Re: Overclock the N900?
 
where do I find exaclty the kernels here in the thread?
have somebody a link for me?
there are over 1000 post :-)

Forphucsake 2010-04-05 18:28
Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Awesome thread guys :D

Flashed the 930/500 kernel and everything runs fine and so very fast. (So far lol)

my results of the sunspider javascript test -
11054.6ms using nightly fennec.
24863.0ms using MicroB.

Will flash to 900/500 and see if it changes much.

Thesandlord 2010-04-05 18:29
Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stonik (Post 596614)
So what happens if after a few months some of the overclocked devices just die? We all know how hungry the gizmo sites are for big headlines (and clicks), even if there were just a dozen bricked N900s running @1050 MHz. So would it go like:
1) Intel and AMD and the mainboard manufacturers, where the blue smoke is always the user's fault - not hurting the manufacturer's brand.
2) Shocking news of burning Nokia smartphones, which is way too easy to overclock. Most people would probably read just the headlines, and that wouldn't be good for N900.

In my personal opinion, Nokia should actually be there first before anything happens, and put up an overclocking party. They should invite a few famous overclocking teams around the globe with 100 N900s to grill. That's when they could also tell the public audience not to overclock their devices, as it would possibly damage their smartphones. This would - however - promote N900 as the ultimate powertoy with no limits. It certainly would be something that no other phone manufacturer has ever done.
You realize that people are overclocking the Droid the same way? Overclocking is really not that bad, I mean sure if people run it at 1.5 Ghz its going to break, but most seem to be running at 800/900 mhz, which is within tolerance kinda.

ceroberts75 2010-04-05 18:30
Re: Overclock the N900?
 
"In my personal opinion, Nokia should actually be there first before anything happens, and put up an overclocking party. They should invite a few famous overclocking teams around the globe with 100 N900s to grill. That's when they could also tell the public audience not to overclock their devices, as it would possibly damage their smartphones. This would - however - promote N900 as the ultimate powertoy with no limits. It certainly would be something that no other phone manufacturer has ever done. "



i agree. thought it was brilliant they did that exact thing with the developers.

this would be great and truely show its power and open-ness!

hieudd 2010-04-05 18:30
Re: Overclock the N900?
 
900mhz run like Ferrari, i luv N900.................

javispedro 2010-04-05 18:31
Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by LondonBenji (Post 596616)
the "ZOMG TI'z datah sheetz sez continuz uz @ 600jiggahurtz srsly reducez teh lifetimz!!1!11!!!! :eek:" crew
The crew who designed the hardware, yes...

Quote:
Originally Posted by LondonBenji (Post 596616)
still don't seem to be fussed that even their STOCK N900 WILL in fact run continously at 600MHz all the time whilst on charge and no one has commented on how long their N900 stays on charge yet......
How many times do I have to tell you that this is not the case?


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