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titan 2010-04-06 16:02

Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by breakthru (Post 597856)
Hi titan,
I know that you have excluded 125MHz from your kernel but I was wondering whether you would implement it in the following versions of your kernel if 125MHz ever proved to contribute to battery life while not causing stability issues. This way people using your kernel would only have to update it from the App manager and continue using it as they please...

please read and install according to http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=141
for me, the 125MHz kernel stays at 600MHz most of time while the 250MHz stays at 250MHz.

ujwalsoni 2010-04-06 16:03

Re: Overclock the N900?
 
I don't think I should go for 900 Mhz in Mumbai..even in the winter..
Is heat the only issue when over-clocking though? Even in cooler climates, would the CPU's life shorten?

Fumanchu 2010-04-06 16:05

Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Hmm interesting, will re-do then get back!

shady 2010-04-06 16:08

Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Good morning, can anyone tell me how to edit pmconfig with the 900mhz package? i tried to edit the file and i got a endless reboot, i have to flash now, but im sure theres a way to edit the file appropriately. it scales the idle to 125 after the 900kernel but the max stays at 600.

dimkit 2010-04-06 16:15

Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by titan (Post 597876)
this means the installation failed as the output should look like this:
Linux <hostname> 2.6.28.10maemo-omap1 #1 PREEMPT Tue Apr 6 13:21:33 EEST 2010 armv7l GNU/Linux
you seem to be running an old firmware (PR1.0). PR1.1 should be the minimum required.
I'll add that to the description.

But i am running PR1.1

Bratag 2010-04-06 16:15

Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shady (Post 597891)
Good morning, can anyone tell me how to edit pmconfig with the 900mhz package? i tried to edit the file and i got a endless reboot, i have to flash now, but im sure theres a way to edit the file appropriately. it scales the idle to 125 after the 900kernel but the max stays at 600.

All you need do is edit the line

scaling_max_freq 600000

and replace it with whatever you want the max to be for example

scaling_max_freq 850000

save - reboot.

titan 2010-04-06 16:17

Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dimkit (Post 597901)
But i am running PR1.1

post your "uname -a"

Fumanchu 2010-04-06 16:18

Re: Overclock the N900?
 
I'm going to re-flash from scratch, including eMMC with the files from nokia, then re-flash with 800mhz stock and see if the issue is replicated or not.

geneven 2010-04-06 16:19

Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ujwalsoni (Post 597882)
I don't think I should go for 900 Mhz in Mumbai..even in the winter..
Is heat the only issue when over-clocking though? Even in cooler climates, would the CPU's life shorten?

I think it's fair to say yes, but to what extent is a gamble and no one knows the exact degree of risk. Most people in this thread don't think the risk is great.

Mr. Incredible 2010-04-06 16:31

Re: Overclock the N900?
 
I have installed the 900mhz kernel.
CPU: 125mhz / 250mhz / 500mhz / 550mhz / 900mhz
DSP: 90mhz / 180mhz / 360mhz/ 400mhz / 430mhz
Now my N900 is fast as hell. :-)

But it stays on 500mhz when idle. Is this normal?

egoshin 2010-04-06 16:32

Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SavageD (Post 597706)
This is just a suggestion...for anyone whose obsessive about the phone over heating such as myself.

1) Find a way to take off the keypad lights as this contributes a lot of the heat.

echo "1" > /sys/devices/platform/gpio-switch/slide/disable

(but it disables the KBD unlock too - sometime it is advantage, if you have a magnetic case).

Hexagoon 2010-04-06 16:33

Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Do you have lots of background apps? They can make you cpu stay in a higher scale

buxz777 2010-04-06 16:36

Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Incredible (Post 597924)
I have installed the 900mhz kernel.
CPU: 125mhz / 250mhz / 500mhz / 550mhz / 900mhz
DSP: 90mhz / 180mhz / 360mhz/ 400mhz / 430mhz
Now my N900 is fast as hell. :-)

But it stays on 500mhz when idle. Is this normal?

if your plugged into usb via pc then i believe so yes :-)

dimkit 2010-04-06 16:40

Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by titan (Post 597906)
post your "uname -a"

Linux Nokia-N900-42-11 2.6.28.10maemo-omap1 #1 PREEMPT Wed Mar 31 21:23:31 EEST 2010 armv7l unknown

egoshin 2010-04-06 16:41

Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sophocha (Post 597763)
Now that you mentioned the white dots, I got these ( and a lot more ) when I was playing the airport game, right after I closed the game I could see clusters of white dots everywhere....and this was before I overclocked my phone!......makes me think that there is something wrong with the graphic chipset...like when you play a game on the PC and you get artifacts all over the place.

I would recommend NOT to overclock your DSP!

Please do not REBOOT - use switch OFF-ON.

It has nothing with overclocking, see bug 7017 - https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7017

dscobsct 2010-04-06 16:44

Re: Overclock the N900?
 
this may sound daft but has anyone else had problems recieving text messages when signal is choppy after using an overclocked kernal?
two nights ago i was in work, where signal is bad, textin the missus, i updated the kernal to a fiasco 800/125 and havent recieved a message off her since. they come through when im in signal but if out of signal she sends and they dont come through when i get signal again. it definately has something to do with my changes because it is from that exact point onwards that i get the problem. havent read of a single other complaint like this any ideas?

egoshin 2010-04-06 16:45

Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by titan (Post 597881)
please read and install according to http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=141
for me, the 125MHz kernel stays at 600MHz most of time while the 250MHz stays at 250MHz.

Can you show an output of

cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/stats/time_in_state

while kernel has 125MHz capability?

titan 2010-04-06 16:45

Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dimkit (Post 597938)
Linux Nokia-N900-42-11 2.6.28.10maemo-omap1 #1 PREEMPT Wed Mar 31 21:23:31 EEST 2010 armv7l unknown

then you have the older 2.6.28-Maemo18 package installed, not
the latest version 2.6.28-Maemo19. only the latest version supports OC.
just upgrade your package.

egoshin 2010-04-06 16:47

Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Incredible (Post 597924)
I have installed the 900mhz kernel.
CPU: 125mhz / 250mhz / 500mhz / 550mhz / 900mhz
DSP: 90mhz / 180mhz / 360mhz/ 400mhz / 430mhz
Now my N900 is fast as hell. :-)

But it stays on 500mhz when idle. Is this normal?

Can you show an output of

cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/stats/time_in_state

titan 2010-04-06 16:47

Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by egoshin (Post 597954)
Can you show an output of
cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/stats/time_in_state
while kernel has 125MHz capability?

IIRC it was about 86,6% in 600MHz and the rest in 125MHz despite mostly idling...

clooak 2010-04-06 16:48

Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Could anyone just make one simple step to step guide, How to install the overclocking kernel to 900mhz.

Would appreciate it thanks!

egoshin 2010-04-06 16:53

Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by titan (Post 597958)
IIRC it was about 86,6% in 600MHz and the rest in 125MHz despite mostly idling...

Interesting, a lot of people reported some battery saving.

Is it placebo or you just have a local effect?

EDIT: you sure you didn't have USB attached?

titan 2010-04-06 16:57

Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by egoshin (Post 597964)
Interesting, a lot of people reported some battery saving.
Is it placebo or you just have a local effect?
EDIT: you sure you didn't have USB attached?

no cable attached, just Wifi enabled and Conky+Terminal running for 10mins.
could be a "local effect"

Blinde 2010-04-06 17:03

Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by clooak (Post 597960)
Could anyone just make one simple step to step guide, How to install the overclocking kernel to 900mhz.

Would appreciate it thanks!

Just use your head and browse this topic. This same thing has been already asked dozens of times.

tiivonen 2010-04-06 17:07

Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by titan (Post 597973)
no cable attached, just Wifi enabled and Conky+Terminal running for 10mins.
could be a "local effect"

Has to be. My phone has been mostly idling for 4 hours and 44 minutes. Few phone calls, few apps installed, xterm.. Most of this time connected to wifi and conky on.

125mhz 77%
800mhz 11%

HtheB 2010-04-06 17:11

Re: Overclock the N900?
 
I installed the kernel app (version 19) that could be found in the repos
But my info is still missing at the About menu.
I flashed it before with the kernel zImage-900mhz, after that my info was gone.

I just couldn't retrieve it back :(
Read a lot of posts, still no luck...

Any help? :)

breakthru 2010-04-06 17:20

Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by titan (Post 597876)
this means the installation failed as the output should look like this:
Linux <hostname> 2.6.28.10maemo-omap1 #1 PREEMPT Tue Apr 6 13:21:33 EEST 2010 armv7l GNU/Linux
you seem to be running an old firmware (PR1.0). PR1.1 should be the minimum required.
I'll add that to the description.

I have the same problem and mine reads:
Linux Nokia-N900-51-1 2.6.28.10maemo-omap1 #1 PREEMPT Tue Ap 6 13:21:33 EEST 2010 armv71 unknown

and as you can see i'm running the latest fw. the problem sees to lie elsewhere...

Edit: I installed the 125MHz enabled kernel and associated files. Now uname -a reads:
Linux Nokia-N900-51-1 2.6.28.10maemo-omap1 #1 PREEMPT Tue Apr 6 15:47:28 CEST 2010 armv71 unknown

My phone mostly seems to be idling at 125MHz by the way...

hqh 2010-04-06 17:21

Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by egoshin (Post 597964)
Interesting, a lot of people reported some battery saving.

Is it placebo or you just have a local effect?

I'd say it's mostly placebo until I see some real statistical data. AFAIK nobody has done any real tests, people just report what they feel like the battery lasts (with extremely varying usage patterns).

IINexusII 2010-04-06 17:25

Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by clooak (Post 597960)
Could anyone just make one simple step to step guide, How to install the overclocking kernel to 900mhz.

Would appreciate it thanks!

http://maemocentral.com/2010/04/04/h...he-nokia-n900/

UNderworld 2010-04-06 17:26

Re: Overclock the N900?
 
hi could anyone using the 900/500dsp check the different frequencies pls?? i seem to be running at either 125,500 annd 900 only...

in idle, it does 125 and jumps to 900 for a second then back to 125...

only conky running...

edit.. the phone heard me... i saw a hint of 250

clooak 2010-04-06 17:37

Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blinde (Post 597978)
Just use your head and browse this topic. This same thing has been already asked dozens of times.

The thing is that there are numerous of diffrent posts about it..I would like to use one tutorial that several people have tried already. So that i know its working =)

HtheB 2010-04-06 17:37

Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Any help how to put the About info back? :)

Oh yeah, and secondly, I installed this:
http://maemo.org/packages/package_in....6.28-maemo19/

and went to xterm to edit the mhz to 1Ghz, so I did the following:
Code:

sudo gainroot
echo 1000000 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq

then I rebooted my device.

But It's still on 600mhz......

What did I do wrong? O_o

I hope anyone could help me with the 2 questions :)

egoshin 2010-04-06 17:39

Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by UNderworld (Post 598010)
hi could anyone using the 900/500dsp check the different frequencies pls?? i seem to be running at either 125,500 annd 900 only...

in idle, it does 125 and jumps to 900 for a second then back to 125...

only conky running...

edit.. the phone heard me... i saw a hint of 250

Can you show an output of

cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/stats/time_in_state

while kernel has 125MHz capability?

egoshin 2010-04-06 17:42

Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 598027)
Any help how to put the About info back? :)

Oh yeah, and secondly, I installed this:
http://maemo.org/packages/package_in....6.28-maemo19/

and went to xterm to edit the mhz to 1Ghz, so I did the following:
Code:

sudo gainroot
echo 1000000 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq

then I rebooted my device.

But It's still on 600mhz......

What did I do wrong? O_o

- Rebooted N900. Any setup under /sys/... is temporary until next reboot. But it takes effect immediately.

Advice - read back this file and check that it was set.

(cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq)

miwalter 2010-04-06 17:47

Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 598027)
What did I do wrong? O_o

Simple. You stopped reading to soon.

People are doing potential harmfull things to their mobiles and are not even going to invest 10 minutes of their time to answer themselves obvious questions already answered MANY MANY TIMES BEFORE. Damn.

To be sort of on topic:
The changes are temporary you do via "echo". "Echo blabla >" only write a value to some device. In this case the device is a parameter to some kernel-function. When the kernel starts these parameters have some default, which has to be overriden every start. "pmconfig" does exactly this - it is a more simple way of echoing different values to different parameters.

Gadgetoid 2010-04-06 17:48

Re: Overclock the N900?
 
I have Kernel-Flasher-Maemo 2.6.28-Maemo19 installed, yet my uname -a reads:

Linux Nokia-N900-42-11 2.6.28.10maemo-omap1 #1 PREEMPT Tue Apr 6 13:21:33 EEST 2010 armv7l unknown

I'm not too bothered as overclocking is working fine and it should be easy enough to update my phone one way or another. It's just odd.

HtheB 2010-04-06 17:49

Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by egoshin (Post 598038)
- Rebooted N900. Any setup under /sys/... is temporary until next reboot. But it takes effect immediately.

Advice - read back this file and check that it was set.

(cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq)

I feel very dumb... didn't read it carefully.

How can I set this to permanent then? :)
So that it will be 1Ghz everytime I boot my device

clooak 2010-04-06 17:52

Re: Overclock the N900?
 
What if i am not satisfied with it, How do i fall back to factory defaults? Any ways to backup the whole phone incase if i want to fall back? :)

_privateMember 2010-04-06 17:55

Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by miwalter (Post 598040)
Simple. You stopped reading to soon.
People are doing potential harmfull things to their mobiles and are not even going to invest 10 minutes..

Thats a valid point. I agree.


*** To permanent change max cpu freq ***
Update the file /etc/pmconfig
scaling_max_freq 600000
to
scaling_max_freq 900000
or whatever mhz you prefer or dare to try.
Information in this file is the source and sets the
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq
when booting the device (same off course for the min_freq).

telnet 2010-04-06 17:58

Re: Overclock the N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashclientel (Post 597432)
What's the opinion on using the overclock firmware just to lower resting from 250mhz to 125mhz and not actually up it over 600?

will this give me much of a battery boost?

bit thanks out to jakiman and his summary post

It should improve your 'idle' standby times as long as you dont have too much stuff running in the background. Keep an eye on what you install and it could make a difference, maybe even a big one but this will differ from person to person depending on what they use the phone for and wots installed.

If you dont have much running when the phone is idle or no background apps run constantly then you should benefit and have spare power for when its needed.

when the phone is active, the big drains are 3g data wireless and screen but it would be nice to tune the device to idle along nice and slow saving mAh's for when you require it :)

When using the device though screen


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