Re: Some hope for 770 owners...
 

I note that although Apple abandoned the Newton message pad shortly after the 2100 upgrade, I today installed a new version of the Connection Utilities released three weeks ago. The lifespan of a device depends on the work of those who enjoy it.

Re: Some hope for 770 owners...
 

Carlos has created a Garage project now:

http://os2007on770.garage.maemo.org/
https://garage.maemo.org/projects/os2007on770/

Re: Some hope for 770 owners...
 

Yep, and there's some nice things to be had over at solid.gold.code too. The 770 is very much alive, and there are still people in the world just finding out about its existance. These devices are likely the only ones that are made better, through software and documentation, as more and more people get to know them and the community surrounding them.

Re: Some hope for 770 owners...
 

I have to disagree here massively. Aside from systems like JBuilder (A SWING App btw, not an SWT one) I have seen (and participated in developement of) a number of Swing-based applications for the market. The last one finished only a few weeks ago, next is comming up. And GUI performance was never one of the problems.

Don't get me wrong I would prefer Nokia switching to CE 5.0 and give me VB.NET or "MS JavaClone 2" aka C#. But JAVA IS on the desktop and it works just fine there IF the developers know there stuf

Re: Some hope for 770 owners...
 

As I see it, Java is needed, not necessarily for applications (although there are a couple of nice ones out there for mobile devices), but there are some applets around that are absolutely critical. My netbank, for example, uses a java applet in one of the authentication stages, and likewise there are java applets for authentication to some other sites I use.
In short, I really really need that JVM support in the browser.. I don't care particularly for non-applet java applications though. Well ok, one of the products of the company I work for is java-based and it just so happens that mobile devices with network capabilities and a good screen would be a perfect target for what it does.

Re: Some hope for 770 owners...
 

Maybe stop using cr@ppy banks and shops that insist of using Java in a browser when it's completely unecessary? :)

I'd switch banks if my online bank used a Java applet!

Re: Some hope for 770 owners...
 

Strangely enough, whether it uses Java or not does not figure very high in my list of qualifications for a bank. :rolleyes:

Re: Some hope for 770 owners...
 

Using JBuilder as an example of anything (except a big pile of excrement) isn't particularly good though! (Especially since DevCo have announced that Borland will be moving JBuilder to Eclipse - i.e. SWT - this year)

Having Swing/SWT on Maemo would still be great, though - how can anyone possibly argue that having too many development options would be a bad thing?

Re: Some hope for 770 owners...
 

minkia !!!

Re: Some hope for 770 owners...
 

Yeah, at this point I'm ready to make my criteria: does the bank's web interface allow me to use my N800 to access my account? Unlike my current bank (grrrr Wells fargo...).