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F2thaK 2010-01-11 04:44

Changing to New Buggy Themes and Rebooting Will Brick Your N900
 
Changing Themes and Rebooting Can Brick Youre N900





Changing themes to new buggy themes will brick youre device




This was the reason for me having to flash my N900 for the 1st time...

oh, and the 2nd time!!




But I have found that phone may be recoverable from this!

If it is only stuck while booting:
* (*) * * *

Go here and try this! http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Jebba/Flash
I am yet to try this, so cannot say myself if it works
so be careful!!

BrentDC 2010-01-11 04:51

Re: Changing to New Buggy Themes and Rebooting Will Brick Your N900
 
I wish people would stop using the word "brick" when they really mean "cause you to reflash".

HRZ 2010-01-11 04:51

Re: Changing to New Buggy Themes and Rebooting Will Brick Your N900
 
thanks for the heads up!

ps - anyone install the "extra decoders support"...i did but then my device was lagging a lot so i uninstalled it. plus i couldnt see my media - hmmm, perhaps i didnt restart?? is that working well with you guys?

F2thaK 2010-01-11 04:57

Re: Changing to New Buggy Themes and Rebooting Will Brick Your N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrentDC (Post 463342)
I wish people would stop using the word "brick" when they really mean "cause you to reflash".


its quicker *to write* and a well known term

plus i thought mine was bricked when it happened the 1st time..

F2thaK 2010-01-11 04:59

Re: Changing to New Buggy Themes and Rebooting Will Brick Your N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HRZ (Post 463343)
thanks for the heads up!

ps - anyone install the "extra decoders support"...i did but then my device was lagging a lot so i uninstalled it. plus i couldnt see my media - hmmm, perhaps i didnt restart?? is that working well with you guys?


ive had it installed but no idea if it added extra media support etc..

no real noticable lagging for me..

dick-richardson 2010-01-11 05:03

Re: Changing to New Buggy Themes and Rebooting Will Brick Your N900
 
Do you have the output from dmesg before you reflashed? Which themes do you feel were the problem. How did you install them? Had you installed any third party apps? Were any from the testing or devel repos?

F2thaK 2010-01-11 05:05

Re: Changing to New Buggy Themes and Rebooting Will Brick Your N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dick-richardson (Post 463354)
Do you have the output from dmesg before you reflashed? Which themes do you feel were the problem. How did you install them? Had you installed any third party apps? Were any from the testing or devel repos?


no idea wat dmesg is

themes i was trying: marina, matrix, other themes made with theme maker and some N800 ones

and apps from all repos i think

andrewfblack 2010-01-11 05:06

Re: Changing to New Buggy Themes and Rebooting Will Brick Your N900
 
this is why I'm trying to get people to stop posting themes that are not in proper packages.

F2thaK 2010-01-11 05:07

Re: Changing to New Buggy Themes and Rebooting Will Brick Your N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewfblack (Post 463356)
this is why I'm trying to get people to stop posting themes that are not in proper packages.

half of them were in deb

andrewfblack 2010-01-11 05:09

Re: Changing to New Buggy Themes and Rebooting Will Brick Your N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by f2thak (Post 463357)
half of them were in deb

I still wouldn't install them in deb format right now since Theme Maker isn't working right. I would only get them from extras since those have all be repackaged after theme maker did its thing.

sjgadsby 2010-01-11 05:09

Re: Changing to New Buggy Themes and Rebooting Will Brick Your N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrentDC (Post 463342)
I wish people would stop using the word "brick" when they really mean "cause you to reflash".

It says I thanked you at the bottom of your post. That's true, so far as it goes, but what it actually means is that I have commissioned a gargantuan bronze statue of you that your wisdom never be forgotten. I'm just letting you know so the team of photographers doesn't come as a surprise.

F2thaK 2010-01-11 05:10

Re: Changing to New Buggy Themes and Rebooting Will Brick Your N900
 
i was using the *reboot* button after changing the themes

i think those combined caused a boot problem

F2thaK 2010-01-11 05:13

Re: Changing to New Buggy Themes and Rebooting Will Brick Your N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewfblack (Post 463356)
this is why I'm trying to get people to stop posting themes that are not in proper packages.

i was trying the themes in extras also but cant say which 1z exactly were the prob..

F2thaK 2010-01-11 05:13

Re: Changing to New Buggy Themes and Rebooting Will Brick Your N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 463359)
It says I thanked you at the bottom of your post. That's true, so far as it goes, but what it actually means is that I have commissioned a gargantuan bronze statue of you that your wisdom never be forgotten. I'm just letting you know so the team of photographers doesn't come as a surprise.

"thanks" :D

jsomby 2010-01-11 05:14

Re: Changing to New Buggy Themes and Rebooting Will Brick Your N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HRZ (Post 463343)
thanks for the heads up!

ps - anyone install the "extra decoders support"...i did but then my device was lagging a lot so i uninstalled it. plus i couldnt see my media - hmmm, perhaps i didnt restart?? is that working well with you guys?

Same here! Causes heavy lagging when recording or viewing video. Dont know why but seems that audio goes out of sync.

Restart didnt help for me, so i had to remove it.

sjgadsby 2010-01-11 05:16

Re: Changing to New Buggy Themes and Rebooting Will Brick Your N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by f2thak (Post 463361)
i was using the *reboot* button after changing the themes

It was likely just the rebooting that did it then. Rebooting doesn't reset the counter that, when it goes high enough, blocks the boot process. As annoying as it is, it's necessary to do a full power off and cold boot after every few reboots to reset that counter and be safe.

F2thaK 2010-01-11 05:18

Re: Changing to New Buggy Themes and Rebooting Will Brick Your N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jsomby (Post 463364)
Same here! Causes heavy lagging when recording or viewing video. Dont know why but seems that audio goes out of sync.

Restart didnt help for me, so i had to remove it.


uninstalling right now !!

dick-richardson 2010-01-11 05:21

Re: Changing to New Buggy Themes and Rebooting Will Brick Your N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 463365)
It was likely just the rebooting that did it then. Rebooting doesn't reset the counter that, when it goes high enough, blocks the boot process. As annoying as it is, it's necessary to do a full power off and cold boot after every few reboots to reset that counter and be safe.

Power Button --> Switch Off!

I'm guessing?

sjgadsby 2010-01-11 05:24

Re: Changing to New Buggy Themes and Rebooting Will Brick Your N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dick-richardson (Post 463373)
Power Button --> Switch Off!

I'm guessing?

Yep, that will reset the counter.

ossipena 2010-01-11 05:30

Re: Changing to New Buggy Themes and Rebooting Will Brick Your N900
 
interesting, I think you should see the later link to bugzilla from my signature. that * (*) * * * is similar to "getbootstate bricks device after 17 random reboots when there are no normal reboots between" (or what was it again?!)


e: if I understood correctly the counter will be fixed in FW update and yes, yours is exactly the same when I looked the wiki.

Quote:

getbootstate: Unexpected reset count 50 exceeds maximum (51)
getbootstate: Entering state 'MALF'.
getbootstate: Houston, we have a problem, powering off...


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