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joppu 2010-01-11 12:15

Re: New firmware released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pabloniss (Post 463754)
Hello. Quote here some articles and i asked if there is no way to create and restore a backup after a software update?

"The Nokia N900 has been finally updated to 1.2009.44.1. Apparently v44.1 is just a minor update and I haven’t noticed any changes by now. The update can be downloaded either via the Nokia Software Updater or straight from the application manager.. Unfortunately, the N900 doesn’t support UDP (User Data Preservation) so that all your applications, e-mail accounts, custom background and your homescreen will be wiped out when you update it with the NSU".
maemoworld.org

Do i understand? because only from the NSU can not restore the data?

That's a lie. All my data is intact!

cools 2010-01-11 12:16

Re: New firmware released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dmcconachie (Post 463957)
App Manager currently stalled at halfway point for me (c.2 minutes and counting) but I can see some shiny new icons in the background.

One of the maemo repo's is particularly busy at the moment, giving 503 and 504 errors.

MaemoUser 2010-01-11 12:17

Re: New firmware released!
 
That is a lie. Nothing was lost during update on my phone. But it's always better to have a backup. ;)

dmcconachie 2010-01-11 12:17

Re: New firmware released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slender (Post 463950)
Hmm. This is really small thread on scale of forums what i have seen. Generally all the threads here are more a like chats which you can scroll pretty fast by reading/scanning just some words. Should not take more than 5 minutes to find something. Also quotes with backlink to orginal post make finding even faster.

Fair enough. Wouldn't hurt to have the occasional post referencing the post number(s) that highlight the problem/solution though.

No chance I was goint to trawl through almost 300 posts though. Just did a reboot and tried again and all worked ok.

TheDagger 2010-01-11 12:18

Re: New firmware released!
 
The application manager stalled at halfway for me too. However, after waiting long enough (several minutes), it started working properly again. I had the extras developement catalog added, so it might be an issue with it as noobmonkey suspected.

tk421 2010-01-11 12:18

Re: New firmware released!
 
I notice it takes me straight to the new email when I click on the email notify app. It never use to do that for me, just took me to the Inbox and wanted me to do the rest. If this is an update i like it!

It does seem more responsive to me as well.

twaelti 2010-01-11 12:20

Re: New firmware released!
 
Very glad to see that Red Pill mode is gone after #N900 44-1 update (As Peter said: To prevent installing packages missing required dependencies)
dpkg -i whatever.deb is a much better way IMHO

Keir 2010-01-11 12:20

Re: New firmware released!
 
Why the hell didn't they add the 3UK Sim card fix???!!!

Arghh so anoyed.

sinetype 2010-01-11 12:20

Re: New firmware released!
 
After update mine is IDENTICAL. Nothing changed (at least visually).

dmcconachie 2010-01-11 12:21

Re: New firmware released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tk421 (Post 463968)
I notice it takes me straight to the new email when I click on the email notify app. It never use to do that for me, just took me to the Inbox and wanted me to do the rest. If this is an update i like it!

It does seem more responsive to me as well.

If I only have 1 new email it takes me directly to it. If I have more than one it would just take me to the mailboxes screen. Haven't had enough emails since updating to check for new behaviour!

schlicke 2010-01-11 12:24

Re: New firmware released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jsomby (Post 463632)
I got that too. After uninstalling Ogg support (and with that was FLAC) it started to work.

Works all find with me after the upgrade (Switzerland).

sjgadsby 2010-01-11 12:24

Re: New firmware released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack6428 (Post 463937)
do i need to install this small update in order to install later the big one ?

Err, yes. It's been explained several times in this very thread that the sole reason for the existence of this small update is to bring N900s to a point whereby they're able to accept the larger update that's coming soon.

boybunny 2010-01-11 12:24

Re: New firmware released!
 
is it poss to delete the rootfs

DarkFulgore 2010-01-11 12:27

Re: New firmware released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eikido (Post 463955)
Am i the only one who is not going to update?

emmmm yes!!!!:)

Rob1n 2010-01-11 12:29

Re: New firmware released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by boybunny (Post 463983)
is it poss to delete the rootfs

Probably, but as that'll render the entire device useless, why would you want to do that?

phuongymy 2010-01-11 12:31

Re: New firmware released!
 
Sweet, i just checked and it shows up as Maemo 5 for update. I live in Canada, Toronto. My firmware now is 1.2009.44. Maybe only for east coast? I wonder if it has changed anything to my settings. Once again Click Update on your application manager and should appear.

Jack6428 2010-01-11 12:33

Re: New firmware released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 463982)
Err, yes. It's been explained several times in this very thread that the sole reason for the existence of this small update is to bring N900s to a point whereby they're able to accept the larger update that's coming soon.

hm, ok then... i guess i will update...but the thing is..i haven't had a single problem with my N900 since day1 i bought it....so i don't have a reason to upgrade really, but mainly im just worried wheter the new fw will screw up some things or not..

tk421 2010-01-11 12:35

Re: New firmware released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dmcconachie (Post 463973)
If I only have 1 new email it takes me directly to it. If I have more than one it would just take me to the mailboxes screen. Haven't had enough emails since updating to check for new behaviour!

Oh you might be right... not sure yet.

noobmonkey 2010-01-11 12:35

Re: New firmware released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Keir (Post 463971)
Why the hell didn't they add the 3UK Sim card fix???!!!

Arghh so anoyed.

Because it's not the full firmware update? It is just an enabler for that firmware update to work when it is released? :)

boybunny 2010-01-11 12:37

Re: New firmware released!
 
i might of asked the wrong thing someone said to search for rootfs as this could be why i cant install the firmware

phuongymy 2010-01-11 12:38

Re: New firmware released!
 
ok, i have updated and it feels to me that the sliding to unlock is much much faster. it does not get choppy as it use to. thats the only thing i actually noticed in 10 minutes of update.

boybunny 2010-01-11 12:41

Re: New firmware released!
 
noobmonkey i sorry but im stupid when you say search the rootfs what do i need to do

Rob1n 2010-01-11 12:42

Re: New firmware released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by boybunny (Post 464002)
i might of asked the wrong thing someone said to search for rootfs as this could be why i cant install the firmware

Okay, in that case what you're needing to do is delete some of the stuff from your rootfs (rather than delete the whole thing). The first thing to try is rebooting (there's a bug which prevents temporary files from being properly cleared up after installing apps), the next is disabling the extras-devel and extras-testing repositories (temporarily - you can re-enable them again after updating).

If this still doesn't give you enough free space then you need to uninstall some of the apps you've installed from extras-devel - searching the forums here for rootfs should point you to several threads which should include details on which apps are the worst for taking up space on the rootfs.

s2kver02 2010-01-11 12:43

Re: New firmware released!
 
Updated here in Texas USA...... OTA! No problem a little responsive.

tomchiverton 2010-01-11 12:45

Re: New firmware released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by boybunny (Post 463983)
is it poss to delete the rootfs

Yes. However it'll render your device useless, so don't.

noobmonkey 2010-01-11 12:47

Re: New firmware released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by boybunny (Post 464002)
i might of asked the wrong thing someone said to search for rootfs as this could be why i cant install the firmware

Twas me, as that is a common problem for not having enough space. If you had found the rootfs thread then there are solutions to the problems.

Some of the threads can be found here and here

I must add - this was a guess on my behalf - as i'm not sure if it is full - if you have conky installed you can see how much space is left in your rootfs.

The device has a limited space available for applications, which is why people keep asking are they optified. If they are, they use up less space in the sacred rootfs area.

benny1967 2010-01-11 12:48

Re: New firmware released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by boybunny (Post 464010)
noobmonkey i sorry but im stupid when you say search the rootfs what do i need to do

I'm not sure if I'm stating the obvious here, but from the context and the way you ask it there could be a misunderstanding about the term "rootfs".

It means "root file system" - if you're used to Windows, from a user perspective it's a bit like drive C: (OK, everyone else, I know this is plain wrong from a technical point of view, but it gets the point across, doesn't it ;) ...)

So it's not something you want to delete (you don't delete C: ...), it's something you want to delete things from to make space available again.

To make space available, uninstall applications you got from extras-devel and extras-testing. Many of those are in early stages of development and use much more space on the root file system than they should.

colnago 2010-01-11 12:49

Re: New firmware released!
 
I think I saw this update as early as last week sometime. I had a yellow exclamation mark in my status window, but I was in the middle of shutting down to swap SIMs, and fat fingered the update screen closed.

I had seen the blue square next to "Maemo 5" listed with all the other "available apps" to install, but I thought it was something dealing w/a sysem restore, or something "above my pay grade of understanding".

I had been manually hitting update, since the OP started the thread (I have the 5th post or so) but never saw an alert (in USA). I checked what was "available now" and there it was.

epage 2010-01-11 12:50

Re: New firmware released!
 
I was surprisingly out of space (I try to avoid apps that aren't optified). Getting rid of some apps that use QT4 helped, got me to 17 MB free. I then rebooted which got me to 70 MB free. Now I'm happily updating

EDIT: No further free space available after update. I wonder if the person who reported that saw it just because of the reboot and not the update. It reset my theme from the orange one to the blue one. No other changes in settings noticed right away, including TV Out settings.

Osilayer 2010-01-11 12:50

Re: New firmware released!
 
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6684/screenshot07r.png
was it like before the update???? could see windoze media player shares over the network???

noobmonkey 2010-01-11 12:52

Re: New firmware released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 464019)
I'm not sure if I'm stating the obvious here, but from the context and the way you ask it there could be a misunderstanding about the term "rootfs".

It means "root file system" - if you're used to Windows, from a user perspective it's a bit like drive C: (OK, everyone else, I know this is plain wrong from a technical point of view, but it gets the point across, doesn't it ;) ...)

So it's not something you want to delete (you don't delete C: ...), it's something you want to delete things from to make space available again.

To make space available, uninstall applications you got from extras-devel and extras-testing. Many of those are in early stages of development and use much more space on the root file system than they should.

Good explanation Benny :) - but you will now have to walk him through doing that! :)

- there needs to be a pre-installed - 'save me' button for people who have used extras dev and extras testing.... because its obvious people are going to use them, if they are available, if if there are a million warnings....

benny1967 2010-01-11 12:52

Re: New firmware released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Osilayer (Post 464025)
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6684/screenshot07r.png
was it like before the update???? could see windoze media player shares over the network???

I could see my shared media before this upgrade, yes. - Could be that there was a bug that prevented it from showing up in your setup, so this new firmware brings new feature to you. ;)

Jaffa 2010-01-11 12:53

Re: New firmware released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Venomrush (Post 463790)
We could get red pill back if someone flash back to 42-11, make a copy of packages changed in 44-1

Diff them and should be able to see the code for red pill to reinsert

Or, y'know, you could just go to maemo.gitorious.org, find an earlier version of HAM and build that - or revert the commit which removed it.

Red pill's not some super secret sauce which is attempted to be hidden in the source code; HAM is quite readable source and builds nicely in Scratchbox.

No need to go ferreting around inside firmware images!

noobmonkey 2010-01-11 12:54

Re: New firmware released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phuongymy (Post 464004)
ok, i have updated and it feels to me that the sliding to unlock is much much faster. it does not get choppy as it use to. thats the only thing i actually noticed in 10 minutes of update.

Ooo you are right, the slider does feel alot lighter now! :)

Just realised it has changed my theme from the orange one to the blue one :) - oh well, not an issue for me!

dmcconachie 2010-01-11 12:54

Re: New firmware released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Osilayer (Post 464025)
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6684/screenshot07r.png
was it like before the update???? could see windoze media player shares over the network???

Yes it was. :)

Fargus 2010-01-11 12:55

Re: New firmware released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Venomrush (Post 463884)
I haven't use previous versions of Maemo before. You mean the update will restore the latest backup?

Uupdates should check the package listing after a successful restart to ense that application repositorys are called if required.

benny1967 2010-01-11 12:56

Re: New firmware released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by noobmonkey (Post 464026)
- there needs to be a pre-installed - 'save me' button for people who have used extras dev and extras testing.... because its obvious people are going to use them, if they are available, if if there are a million warnings....

I'm not familiar with apt-thingies... I'm one of those who'll miss red pill mode. (I thought the interface was cool, entering "matrix and all that...)

So: Is it possible to select applications by repository from a script?

So there could be a script that selects everything from -devel and -testing, uninstalls it and disables the reps. Would maybe help in a few situations. Having such an app in Extras as "saveme" could be a good idea. :D

nintendogs 2010-01-11 13:00

Re: New firmware released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by noobmonkey (Post 464032)
Just realised it has changed my theme from the orange one to the blue one :)

The orange theme is still available, it did that for me too, but I changed it back to the orange one (digital nature).

At least I'm not the only one :p

tomchiverton 2010-01-11 13:02

Re: New firmware released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 464036)
I'm not familiar with apt-thingies... I'm one of those who'll miss red pill mode. (I thought the interface was cool, entering "matrix and all that...)

So: Is it possible to select applications by repository from a script?

So there could be a script that selects everything from -devel and -testing, uninstalls it and disables the reps. Would maybe help in a few situations. Having such an app in Extras as "saveme" could be a good idea. :D

Yes. ....................................

Missingbyte 2010-01-11 13:02

Re: New firmware released!
 
Sorry if this seems a daft question, but had to remove apps to free space to fit the 20mb update. So if this is just a tiny update whats gonna happen when the big one comes along ?


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