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anapospastos 2010-01-13 09:53

Speedometer from ovi doesnt work (right)
 
I tried speedometer from ovi store and it does not show the right speed. It goes until 2kmh or 1mile. I was in a car when I used it(next to the window), we ve had about 80kmh and it was showing 2! It doesnt seem to working. Can you check yours and tell me if it works?

d-iivil 2010-01-13 09:55

Re: Speedometer from ovi doesnt work (right)
 
Works just fine. GPS need a data connection get fix so you need to allow internet access when the program asks for it. Even then you might need to wait a few moments for GPS to get fix. After that the speed should be displayed as it is.

anapospastos 2010-01-13 09:59

Re: Speedometer from ovi doesnt work (right)
 
You mean that it doesnt lock without tha a-gps right? It's useless then.

Kee 2010-01-13 10:01

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I haven't tried it myself yet but one thing I noticed with the app is that you can apparently make it display a mirror image, thus it should be possible to place it on the dashboard and have a nice little HUD image reflecting from the windscreen. Eager to see how well it will work, probably only at night time though I suspect. Anyhow, very clever idea IMHO.

d-iivil 2010-01-13 10:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kee (Post 467976)
I haven't tried it myself yet but one thing I noticed with the app is that you can apparently make it display a mirror image, thus it should be possible to place it on the dashboard and have a nice little HUD image reflecting from the windscreen. Eager to see how well it will work, probably only at night time though I suspect. Anyhow, very clever idea IMHO.

That also works very nice :) I tried it last night while driving to home from work.
Need to figure out a good way to mount the phone on the dashboard though...

anapospastos: as far as I know the N900 GPS only works when a-gps is enabled (some issue with firmware or so...). It's not the speedometer's fault.

mece 2010-01-13 10:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by anapospastos (Post 467973)
You mean that it doesnt lock without tha a-gps right? It's useless then.

No, it's useless because most cars actually have a speedometer right on the dashboard. :D
Anyway, I think you meant it's useless for you then, because I, for example, have nothing against connecting over gprs or 3g to get a fix.

mehdiE 2010-01-13 10:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by anapospastos (Post 467973)
You mean that it doesnt lock without tha a-gps right? It's useless then.

In that case, you might want to vote for bug 7026 and possibly for bug 5337 too if you want that fixed (it's not a problem with the speedometer app itself - even the built-in GPS apps have a lot of trouble getting a GPS fix with AGPS disabled).

anapospastos 2010-01-13 10:22

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I ve already vote for these bugs but the whole app is a disaster. It should show that it searching for gps(the icon for gps on the desktop doesnt exist when u use the app) and it just staying there and you wait and wait and wait and anything. Only displays 2kmh. It could be better in my opinion.

d-iivil 2010-01-13 10:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by anapospastos (Post 468010)
I ve already vote for these bugs but the whole app is a disaster. It should show that it searching for gps(the icon for gps on the desktop doesnt exist when u use the app) and it just staying there and you wait and wait and wait and anything. Only displays 2kmh. It could be better in my opinion.

The WHOLE app is disaster because there's no GPS-lock indicator?
Okay.. I'll get my coat.

anapospastos 2010-01-13 10:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by D-Iivil (Post 468014)
The WHOLE app is disaster because there's no GPS-lock indicator?
Okay.. I'll get my coat.

It seem to be just right there and sitting. Its annoying to wait and any indicator or something to tell you: "hey i cant get a gps lock"

d-iivil 2010-01-13 10:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by anapospastos (Post 468018)
It seem to be just right there and sitting. Its annoying to wait and any indicator or something to tell you: "hey i cant get a gps lock"

How about just seeing that speed is correct when the lock has been established?

I agree with you it would be cool to have some signal strenght indicator somewhere, but it still doesn't make the whole app to be disaster.

anapospastos 2010-01-13 10:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by D-Iivil (Post 468028)
How about just seeing that speed is correct when the lock has been established?

I agree with you it would be cool to have some signal strenght indicator somewhere, but it still doesn't make the whole app to be disaster.

Ok maybe the word disaster is wrong but its annoying to wait and anything inform you. Its not useful. I couldnt get a gps lock(about 15 minutes waiting), it seems to not working because every time that the gps is used by the device the icon appears on the desktop.

d-iivil 2010-01-13 10:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by anapospastos (Post 468035)
Ok maybe the word disaster is wrong but its annoying to wait and anything inform you. Its not useful. I couldnt get a gps lock(about 15 minutes waiting), it seems to not working because every time that the gps is used by the device the icon appears on the desktop.

Just to compare.. my previous N97 couldn't get GPS lock in 45 minutes when a-gps was disabled :-D

But anyway, with phone like N900 unlimited data plan is must to have anyway and GPS gets lock very fast when a-gps is enabled.

anapospastos 2010-01-13 10:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by D-Iivil (Post 468044)
Just to compare.. my previous N97 couldn't get GPS lock in 45 minutes when a-gps was disabled :-D

But anyway, with phone like N900 unlimited data plan is must to have anyway and GPS gets lock very fast when a-gps is enabled.

Not for me, it is too expensive here in Greece. I will wait the new firmware and the possibility for the gps bugs to be solved.

feydrutha 2010-01-13 13:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by D-Iivil (Post 468044)
But anyway, with phone like N900 unlimited data plan is must to have anyway and GPS gets lock very fast when a-gps is enabled.

Honestly, GPS is mostly useful while traveling, and for many people here in europe that means traveling internationally. I have yet to see a world-wide, or even europe-wide data plan at a reasonable price. Until I can get that I'm not getting any data plan at all, and want to be able to use GPS anyhow.

I had been told that if you previously got a lock (using A-GPS) within the last couple days and do not move more than a few hundred kilomoeters, the GPS should be able to lock without connectivity. But I did a cursory test today and it did not work.

d-iivil 2010-01-13 16:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by feydrutha (Post 468294)
Honestly, GPS is mostly useful while traveling, and for many people here in europe that means traveling internationally. I have yet to see a world-wide, or even europe-wide data plan at a reasonable price. Until I can get that I'm not getting any data plan at all, and want to be able to use GPS anyhow.

I had been told that if you previously got a lock (using A-GPS) within the last couple days and do not move more than a few hundred kilomoeters, the GPS should be able to lock without connectivity. But I did a cursory test today and it did not work.

I get your point. Last time when I was travelling (in Thailand) I used GPS every day of the week I was there and if I recall right the roaming data charcing was something like 10-20 euros for the whole trip including other data transfer than just GPS. But ofcourse the hardware should work without a-gps enabled also if specs from manufacturer says so.

Blinde 2010-01-13 20:52

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The biggest problem now is how to disable screensaver? It's useless like this. I don't want to change the screen settings for this.

bunanson 2010-01-13 21:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by D-Iivil (Post 467984)
...anapospastos: as far as I know the N900 GPS only works when a-gps is enabled (some issue with firmware or so...). ..

No.
GPS works by itself, all the time, independent of a-gps, pics here, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...608#post447608, thread #5

bun

Slocan 2010-01-13 22:12

Re: Speedometer from ovi doesnt work (right)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bunanson (Post 469152)
No.
GPS works by itself, all the time, independent of a-gps, pics here

From my experience, the initial lock requires a data connection, but once you have that, you can disconnect.

Laughingstok 2010-01-14 14:41

Re: Speedometer from ovi doesnt work (right)
 
This works great for me because I have a lifted Jeep with big tires and my speedo is not accurate anymore.

bunanson 2010-01-14 20:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Slocan (Post 469265)
From my experience, the initial lock requires a data connection, but once you have that, you can disconnect.


No. I said it the 2nd time. The GPS is not perfect, but it is NOT fair to keep spreading bad thing about the GPS. I honestly NOT trying to make any argument. At least for my gps, it DOES NOT need anything to use it. A-gps 'helps' to get a faster lock and that is it. Otherwise it is working by itself, I have seen it more than a couple hundred times and has taken it for 3 field trips, so far. Honestly, it is not very useful at the current situation. It does tell you where you are and that is it. If yours does not do that, there is a problem.

bun

telnet 2010-01-14 21:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mece (Post 467989)
No, it's useless because most cars actually have a speedometer right on the dashboard. :D
Anyway, I think you meant it's useless for you then, because I, for example, have nothing against connecting over gprs or 3g to get a fix.

You will most likely find that most spedos actually clock you 5% faster than your true speed to avoid litigation against manufacturers due to speed fines incurred by inaccurate speedos.

Try going 130mph on yer speedo and then check your satnav, chances are you will be doing 120ish real speed.

fater you go the bigger the discrepency :) not entirely useless app :)

ViciousXUSMC 2010-01-29 05:32

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I got this app the other day. Thought it would be a neat time killer to play with while being a passenger in somebodies car but it totally sucks.

It needs internet connection to activate? WTH its GPS I dont need to pay for internet to use free gps.

I have a $20 USB GPS device I use on my netbook and while using microsoft streets & trips 2009 it gives me my speed and a compass too and I never needed internet connections for that to work so I know its possible.

ossipena 2010-01-29 05:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ViciousXUSMC (Post 500435)
I got this app the other day. Thought it would be a neat time killer to play with while being a passenger in somebodies car but it totally sucks.

It needs internet connection to activate? WTH its GPS I dont need to pay for internet to use free gps.

I have a $20 USB GPS device I use on my netbook and while using microsoft streets & trips 2009 it gives me my speed and a compass too and I never needed internet connections for that to work so I know its possible.

go ahead, turn off assisted gps. after that you need some patience though.

f you can fit your $20 usb gps device into n900's bezel without removing anything, n900's gps is total fail. if you can't... maybe you got the point already.

Cootje 2010-06-02 07:48

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Can it be that Speedometer is broken in PR1.2? When I start Speedometer it doesn't start the GPS nor does it ask to connect to the internet for assisted GPS. After 15 min. I still got a blinking zero on my screen.

F2thaK 2010-06-02 07:55

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bug suprise an ovi app isnt great

Cootje 2010-06-02 08:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by f2thak (Post 695366)
bug suprise an ovi app isnt great

That's your opinion. I think (for example) Angry Birds is a great game. But that wasn't the discussion.

ewan 2010-06-02 08:57

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He said an OVI app was poor, not that they all were. And it's not a surprise - OVI doesn't have the sort of public review and testing mechanism that maemo-extras has. There's no bug tracker, no -devel and -testing repos, no source visibility. Something can simply be dropped into OVI without testing, and by the time you find out it's crap you've already handed over your money and you can't get a refund for a faulty product.

It isn't surprising there's some rubbish in there.

jackbox 2010-06-02 10:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cootje (Post 695355)
Can it be that Speedometer is broken in PR1.2? When I start Speedometer it doesn't start the GPS nor does it ask to connect to the internet for assisted GPS. After 15 min. I still got a blinking zero on my screen.

I have the exactly same problem with Speedometer. I installed it yesterday and I also have PR 1.2. installed.

jerker 2010-06-06 17:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cootje (Post 695355)
Can it be that Speedometer is broken in PR1.2? When I start Speedometer it doesn't start the GPS nor does it ask to connect to the internet for assisted GPS. After 15 min. I still got a blinking zero on my screen.

The same here! I installed Speedometer for the first time now after upgrading to PR1.2 and it has not worked at all, just a blinking zero!

anapospastos 2010-06-06 17:34

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It works without a-gps but it need a little more time to lock. Just intall GPSJinni, let it to lock for the first time and voila!

kinipyon 2010-06-06 19:03

Re: Speedometer from ovi doesnt work (right)
 
PR1.2 and blinking zero here also :(

jerker 2010-06-07 05:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by anapospastos (Post 702496)
It works without a-gps but it need a little more time to lock. Just intall GPSJinni, let it to lock for the first time and voila!

So, I installed gpsjinni, started that and let it lock, but nothing is different. Still a blinking zero...

dana.s 2010-06-07 06:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jerker (Post 703000)
So, I installed gpsjinni, started that and let it lock, but nothing is different. Still a blinking zero...

FYI, GPSjinni have speed meter.

jerker 2010-06-07 06:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dana.s (Post 703017)
FYI, GPSjinni have speed meter.

Yes, I have noticed that, but I still want Speedometer to function since it has this nice feature with the mirror wiev, and really big digits that are easy to see (when driving the car).

zimmerit 2010-06-07 22:07

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Nice looking app, too bad that they failed got it right with PR 1.2.

Blinking zero here also:rolleyes:

jessi3k3 2010-06-07 22:27

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Yep, Speedometer doesnt work with pr1.2. You can switch to the desktop while the program is running in the background and you can see it doesnt even attempt to use the gps

bzbnd 2010-06-14 09:55

Re: Speedometer from ovi doesnt work (right)
 
who can fix this bug? what can we do? do we have to uninstall it?

Asterixnz 2010-08-02 02:45

Re: Speedometer from ovi doesnt work (right)
 
There is a newer version of speedometer at Ovi now, it doesn't seem to have the cool mirror image feature but does have many other nice things the old one never had. There is also "Speedo" right here too.


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