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benny1967 2010-02-21 15:10
Re: Sprint task: Refine the karma system (community input requested)
 
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Originally Posted by jukey (Post 539707)
I'll write to the blackboard for hundred times: "I will read all posts following the post I'll answer to before I write an answer!" :)
Don't forget to post the video when done. :p

lcuk 2010-02-21 21:16
Re: Sprint task: Refine the karma system (community input requested)
 
we should just forget karma and go for high scores on n900fly

bergie 2010-02-22 14:50
Re: Sprint task: Refine the karma system (community input requested)
 
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Originally Posted by VDVsx (Post 537574)
Well, that's a bug among others it seems, we didn't proposed any alteration to bugzilla karma, nor for favs that is also very low.

Also there was a bug with the blogs karma, we reduced it (now max.10p) and guess what my blog karma is suddenly 3 times more :( oh my.

Perhaps the blogs metrics need to be revised :D
In general any karma item where the top karma receivers have more than 300 or 400 karma from that category sounds quite unbalanced. Well, maybe except products (coming from popular apps published by the user to Maemo Downloads).

This is why we did a little bit of tweaking to bug reporting and thumbs karma, in order to ensure they don't overwhelm the other karma categories.

Blog karma probably deserves the same.

Texrat 2010-02-22 14:57
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I wish more people would understand that things like karma are always open to process improvement. No reason to get all balled up when a certain metric looks out of whack... just participate in the corrective process. ;)

sjgadsby 2010-02-22 15:02
Re: Sprint task: Refine the karma system (community input requested)
 
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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 541166)
...things like karma are always open to process improvement.
And now bloggers are about to be nerfed.

VDVsx 2010-02-22 15:03
Re: Sprint task: Refine the karma system (community input requested)
 
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Originally Posted by bergie (Post 541150)
In general any karma item where the top karma receivers have more than 300 or 400 karma from that category sounds quite unbalanced. Well, maybe except products (coming from popular apps published by the user to Maemo Downloads).

This is why we did a little bit of tweaking to bug reporting and thumbs karma, in order to ensure they don't overwhelm the other karma categories.

Blog karma probably deserves the same.
I agree in part with that, but bug reports are IMHO the second most important contribution from the community (#1 apps in extras), and now if I get it right, a bug report worth the same than a wiki edit(6*sqrt(# edits)) and less than a TMO thanks(8 * sqrt(#thanks)), IMHO a bit wrong.

bergie 2010-02-22 15:09
Re: Sprint task: Refine the karma system (community input requested)
 
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Originally Posted by VDVsx (Post 541173)
I agree in part with that, but bug reports are IMHO the second most important contribution from the community (#1 apps in extras), and now if I get it right, a bug report worth the same than a wiki edit(6*sqrt(# edits)) and less than a TMO thanks(8 * sqrt(#thanks)), IMHO a bit wrong.
With bug reports it would be best if we could include bug validity into calculations. Otherwise you get karma for posting duplicates and completely beside the point bug reports :rolleyes:

Anyway, happy to tune the karma algorithms as needed. The current ones are already a lot more balanced than what we had, but especially blog karma could use improvement.

VDVsx 2010-02-22 15:16
Re: Sprint task: Refine the karma system (community input requested)
 
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Originally Posted by bergie (Post 541183)
With bug reports it would be best if we could include bug validity into calculations. Otherwise you get karma for posting duplicates and completely beside the point bug reports :rolleyes:
That would be awesome, not knowing the system, don't know if this would be doable.

bergie 2010-02-22 15:19
Re: Sprint task: Refine the karma system (community input requested)
 
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Originally Posted by VDVsx (Post 541191)
That would be awesome, not knowing the system, don't know if this would be doable.
Currently we get a CSV dump of bugzilla accounts and their bug creation and comment numbers. The script that generates the dump could possibly be tuned to ignore invalid bug items

Texrat 2010-02-22 15:20
Re: Sprint task: Refine the karma system (community input requested)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bergie (Post 541183)
but especially blog karma could use improvement.
Just as long as it pops that overinflated Gadsby back down to size. :D

/me ducks and runs


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