Re: Sprint task: Refine the karma system (community input requested)
 

Dave: Here's a thread to discuss my belief that the community mailing list should be supplanted by the Community forum here at t.m.o.:

Move maemo-community mailing list activity to this forum

Re: Sprint task: Refine the karma system (community input requested)
 

I was thinking by now that on other forums I have seen another mechanism to make the best contributors stand, i.e. reputation (reps). Every member has a limited number of reputation points that he/she can attribute to another member. Rep points decrease when used and only after a certain number of days (and/or posts) they are refilled. In a nutshell, it's like the thanks button, but you have to think twice before hitting :)

Such a mechanism could help discriminate in a better way the contribitors more appreciated by the community.

Re: Sprint task: Refine the karma system (community input requested)
 

i think there is no perfect solution but people who are usefull and do something other then create headaches with misinformation and trolling etc should get the credit they deserve.

Re: Sprint task: Refine the karma system (community input requested)
 

First I don't meant to put labels in people, all contributions are very welcome and should be reward according, there's a lot of 'doers' here at talk.

People complaining about the karma generate by the TMO posts don't forget that we're getting karma from two sources(posts and thanks), but yes, the karma from ML posts is overrated IMO.

What I'm looking here is suggestions to fine tune the metrics that I proposed, and if you guys consider them fair, please move the discussions about the usefulness of the karma system to other threads :).

Those that disagree with the proposed metrics for apps karma, please make a alternative proposal, same for the other areas.

Re: Sprint task: Refine the karma system (community input requested)
 

So your council members have asked for input on the topic at hand. What did you think about the proposed changes? Do you agree with them, do you have questions, do you have other ideas about the karma calculations? I have seen really no constructive thoughts about the proposed changes.

Please be clear, this is a sprint task that is going to move forward. I am sure VDVsx is ready to go. If you have any thoughts about the Karma calculations, please bring them forth now.

Again not how karma is used, how karma is calculated.

My point was we should try to make things as equal as possible, (but its not a perfect world) I understand the requested changes, but I am concerned about tipping the scales in another direction instead of achieving balance.

Speak up now if you got something to say.

Re: Sprint task: Refine the karma system (community input requested)
 

My comments:

- No "gold posts" on tmo. The "thanks" karma is good enough.
- More karma for wiki edits (not sure what the current metric is, but it needs a bit more per edit, maybe 10%-25% more?)
- Implement this ASAP!

EDIT: Dave Neary has made a good proposal on the mailing list for wiki edits:

Re: Sprint task: Refine the karma system (community input requested)
 

Agreed re the wiki. And Uwe's suggestion on the list to make the karma calc dependent on time (count only 1 of the edits per page per day) is good too. Combine an increase in value per incident with that and I think we're good.

Re: Sprint task: Refine the karma system (community input requested)
 

Ditto.

The problem with anything like this is that it'd require a ground-up reimplementation of karma. Personally, I think karma should have a half-life and the contributions people made back in 2005 are less valuable today than the contributions they're making now.

However, that is a much bigger task than simply adjusting the current factors and equations based on the existing variables :-(

Re: Sprint task: Refine the karma system (community input requested)
 

Hmmm. Just thinking that shaking things up in the karma area may cause me to contribute in different areas more often. As it stands, I have had a couple of lucrative blog posts that 'paid out' significant amounts of karma. All good...

Re: Sprint task: Refine the karma system (community input requested)
 

So, if I spend 3 or 4 hours putting a half-dozen pages together in one day I'll get less karma than if I spread that out over a week or two? As someone who works intense bursts like that, I'm not sure I like this idea.

Really, we want karma to encourage more numerous, but smaller, edits. It makes tracking changes on a page much easier and it makes rolling back individual changes easier. Singular, massive edits are not the preferred way to edit a wiki.