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Sheon 2010-01-19 22:22

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ok im back down town it keeps going 3G 2.5 how do i check if im roaming wont it say t mobile?

colnago 2010-01-19 22:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheon (Post 483018)
ok im back down town it keeps going 3G 2.5 how do i check if im roaming wont it say t mobile?

Well, you could go to www.speedtest.net and perform a speed test. I will show your provider.

Sheon 2010-01-19 22:33

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i cant get it to stay on 3G it keeps going back and forth -_-

and to everyone who says im using a custom name app no im not im not trying to ******** or get anyones hopes up this is just what im seeing now so maybe its just a bug in my phone im roaming or some **** who knows im just letting people know

Sheon 2010-01-19 22:35

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i found that 2g/3g app and installed it but it dissapered how do i open it its not in my app list

colnago 2010-01-19 22:36

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Try hard setting it to "3G" under the "Phone Settings".

depu 2010-01-19 22:36

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Click on the status bar where it says 2G and the time and you should be able to select the mode there.

depu 2010-01-19 22:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheon (Post 483041)
i cant get it to stay on 3G it keeps going back and forth -_-

and to everyone who says im using a custom name app no im not im not trying to ******** or get anyones hopes up this is just what im seeing now so maybe its just a bug in my phone im roaming or some **** who knows im just letting people know

no problem :)
Just that we are a bunch of really skeptical people here and you could make a lot of people using ATT happy if this really works out.

schettj 2010-01-19 22:48

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The device does not work on the AT&T 3G frequency. No firmware will change that. It lacks the radio hardware for AT&T 3G.

Sheon 2010-01-19 23:00

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http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/6...0011914481.jpg

see WTF -_-

as u can see im not bullshittng at all i dont know why 3G works downtown and not at home -_-

its still slow tho but its on 3G so im lost

schettj 2010-01-19 23:04

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"It's still slow" == it's Edge/2.5G.

bugelrex 2010-01-19 23:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheon (Post 483082)
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/6...0011914481.jpg

see WTF -_-

as u can see im not bullshittng at all i dont know why 3G works downtown and not at home -_-

its still slow tho but its on 3G so im lost

You missed the screen shot with the actual results. It should appear after all the tests and show the download/upload/ping speeds

Mara 2010-01-19 23:18

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Just wondering if you have discovered AT&T's LTE trial network and if that is "falling back" to 3G/3.5G to support legacy handsets. If I recall correctly AT&T is planning to roll out their LTE network using 1700/2100MHz bands.

That would explain it...

Sheon 2010-01-19 23:19

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it still seems slow but whatever lol -_-

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1...0011915075.jpg

Sheon 2010-01-19 23:30

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so now im back home and its back to 2.5 -_- i guess its only downtown it works

oh well ill stick to my t mobile sim card for now maybe someone can make a hack to force 3G or i have something in my area that makes 3G work i dont know

syncdot 2010-01-19 23:33

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Ye weird things like this happen. Like my sister who bought an HTC (forgot the model) in Taiwan which only supports Asian's 3G frequency.
After updating her WinMo firmware, she could see AT&T 3G, but technically the phone doesn't support either the American AT&T or T-Mo 3G. The speed was slow though, like Edge. When I inserted my T-Mo card, it didn't show 3G at all even though my N900 has been getting it.

I suspect it's something to do with AT&T's weird network.

depu 2010-01-19 23:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mara (Post 483126)
Just wondering if you have discovered AT&T's LTE trial network and if that is "falling back" to 3G/3.5G to support legacy handsets. If I recall correctly AT&T is planning to roll out their LTE network using 1700/2100MHz bands.

That would explain it...

This is one real good point.. I just looked up the 4G band@ wikipedia and 4G does come under the 1700 band.

Donno if it really is "falling back" to 3G but from what i read 4G is an extension to 3G so it *might* be possible.
Still not getting my hopes up any, lets see if multiple users can see the same effect.

EIPI 2010-01-19 23:58

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In Canada, the heavyweight, Rogers also runs on the same bands as ATT. In a recent spectrumj auction the 1700/2100 bands were bought by them plus some new entrants. Wind is one of them, and many canadians are eager to switch. However, Rogers has done nothing with the new spectrum....waiting to use them for LTE as well. If Mara is correct, we'll start to see Rogers LTE network as well, and that will rock for us N900ers!

colnago 2010-01-20 00:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by depu (Post 483170)
This is one real good point.. I just looked up the 4G band@ wikipedia and 4G does come under the 1700 band.

Donno if it really is "falling back" to 3G but from what i read 4G is an extension to 3G so it *might* be possible.
Still not getting my hopes up any, lets see if multiple users can see the same effect.

That's awsome...you give this guy "kudos" but give me "krap" for saying the same thing at the start of this thread.

:P

texaslabrat 2010-01-20 00:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by depu (Post 483170)
This is one real good point.. I just looked up the 4G band@ wikipedia and 4G does come under the 1700 band.

Donno if it really is "falling back" to 3G but from what i read 4G is an extension to 3G so it *might* be possible.
Still not getting my hopes up any, lets see if multiple users can see the same effect.

Yes, I suppose that is a possibility. At&t does own some AWS band real estate in Nevada over which they might be piloting their LTE gear (which is indeed backwards compatible with HSPA if i recall correctly). Certainly doesn't help anyone who is in a "traditional" 850/1900 at&t market where at&t doesn't own AWS spectrum (eastern half of the country).

http://www.cellularmaps.com/aws_auction.shtml

If this is indeed legit, my apologies to the OP for calling him a web troll.

jerryfreak 2010-01-20 00:31

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i am nearby.

i have 3g turned of fon my phone. i have had a helluva time connecting to the 2g network in reno automatically. yesterday ia did a manual network search and two entries for 'AT&T 2G' came up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laughingstok (Post 482875)
Then we need other N900 users in Reno, Nevada to verify this. :D


Texrat 2010-01-20 00:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by colnago (Post 483233)
That's awsome...you give this guy "kudos" but give me "krap" for saying the same thing at the start of this thread.

:P

Fixed. ;)

depu 2010-01-20 00:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by colnago (Post 483233)
That's awsome...you give this guy "kudos" but give me "krap" for saying the same thing at the start of this thread.

:P

Of course your comment never came with any sort of data to back it up :) hence the reluctance to believe it, and i never said Boo to you just the option was unlikely, seems ATT is out to prove me wrong...

But now someone needs to find out what band is it the ATT is upgrading their network to.
And given that he is not able to get good speeds, either the network is not up fully, or the phone does not fully support the network.

I wonder if we are looking at the future where USA is under a common frequency band for data?

More annoying is that he's got better download speeds with ATT than i do with TMobile 3.5G.

Sheon 2010-01-20 00:42

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when i do manual search att 2G and 3G comes up but i can only select 3G when im downtown at home it comes up but if i select it says no access maybe others should try that (if this phone dont support that band 850 is it even supposed to show up under manual search?) maybe someone can do something for att users

Sheon 2010-01-20 00:44

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haha ya when i switch to my t mobile its not 7.2 as they claim -_- but using mt t mobile sim the internet is way faster i can listen to radio without lag now yay

Sheon 2010-01-20 00:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jerryfreak (Post 483258)
i am nearby.

i have 3g turned of fon my phone. i have had a helluva time connecting to the 2g network in reno automatically. yesterday ia did a manual network search and two entries for 'AT&T 2G' came up.

another N900 user in reno yay i thought i was all alone here lol maybe we should meet up and do a test downtown sometime lol

colnago 2010-01-20 00:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheon (Post 483278)
haha ya when i switch to my t mobile its not 7.2 as they claim -_- but using mt t mobile sim the internet is way faster i can listen to radio without lag now yay


There are articles on the web stating that T-Mo's upgrade is only partially complete, in that only the "software portion" is in place nationwide.

colnago 2010-01-20 00:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by depu (Post 483270)
Of course your comment never came with any sort of data to back it up :) hence the reluctance to believe it, and i never said Boo to you just the option was unlikely, seems ATT is out to prove me wrong...

But now someone needs to find out what band is it the ATT is upgrading their network to.
And given that he is not able to get good speeds, either the network is not up fully, or the phone does not fully support the network.

I wonder if we are looking at the future where USA is under a common frequency band for data?

More annoying is that he's got better download speeds with ATT than i do with TMobile 3.5G.

AT&T upgrade news is posted on the web.

;)

depu 2010-01-20 01:10

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Originally Posted by colnago (Post 483286)
AT&T upgrade news is posted on the web.

;)

Yes. Their HSPA upgrade news is. But what i read is that its only a software update yet and they are making initial runs for HSPA at a few places.
Source: AT&T News Room

I figured LTE would come after the HSPA upgrade atleast.

colnago 2010-01-20 01:27

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Yeah, unfortunately the upgraded speeds, for both carriers, is spotty at best. I pulled 3Mb in Philly, on Broad St., on T-Mo, but 15-20 blocks further north, still on Broad St., at my Dad's house, I could only manage 1Mb.

wierdo 2010-01-20 01:41

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Perhaps at&t allows T-Mobile roaming in Reno. Their SIM cards are programmed to always show "AT&T" as the operator, so you can't tell without checking the MCC-MNC pair what network you're really on.

Sheon, you were seeing T-Mobile 3G, not at&t 3G.

depu 2010-01-20 01:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wierdo (Post 483344)
Perhaps at&t allows T-Mobile roaming in Reno. Their SIM cards are programmed to always show "AT&T" as the operator, so you can't tell without checking the MCC-MNC pair what network you're really on.

Sheon, you were seeing T-Mobile 3G, not at&t 3G.

Odd that the speed test shows AT&T as the ISP though.

And i really dont think that TMo would show a different operators name *while* its their own network which is being used.

Something is definitely odd, lets see if other users in Reno see the same.

texaslabrat 2010-01-20 02:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by depu (Post 483364)
Odd that the speed test shows AT&T as the ISP though.

And i really dont think that TMo would show a different operators name *while* its their own network which is being used.

Something is definitely odd, lets see if other users in Reno see the same.

ip is at&t also according to dig. This is either a very elaborate hoax involving some decent photoshopping or he has indeed stumbled upon an LTE pilot site.

Sheon 2010-01-20 04:15

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im guessing its LTE then? how would i be able to tell what band im using?

EIPI 2010-01-20 04:46

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to be sure there is no funny roaming going on, I suggest you repeat this with the following setup:

1. goto settings->phone
2. change network mode to 3G
3. change data roaming to 'always ask'
4. change network selection to manual, wait for it to scan, and see what pops up. If AT&T is running LTE and it defaults to hspa for 3G, then you *may* see 2 AT&T entries once the scan is complete. One will have 2G beside it, the other 3G.

Post results and screenshots back here. Esp screenshot of the manual scan result! Thanks.

Sheon 2010-01-20 05:04

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http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/793...0011921000.png

at my house i cannot select 3g it will say no access but downtown it will work jsut fine -_-

so if it dont support the 850 band how come i can pick it up?

Sheon 2010-01-20 05:21

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if it helps any i am using a new sim card

alliswell 2010-01-20 05:35

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Is it the sim with the 3G logo or a new one?

Sheon 2010-01-20 05:36

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it has a blue 3g logo on it

Konceptz 2010-01-20 05:37

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Let's give this to the boys at hofo to take a look at.

shinkamui 2010-01-20 06:10

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i have at&t with excellent coverage here in Metairie LA. No such 3g connection when setting the mode to 3g as there shouldnt be. . fact is this is nonsense. It would be easy enough to prove with a video of him setting the band in the phone settings to 3g only and show us that it connects after showing us the sim. silly thread should be closed.


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