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Estel 2011-08-15 17:57

Re: Ask the Council!
 
I feel Your answer may be also related to my "edit" question from last post. Can You tell us (The Community, if i recall correctly ;) ) who wasn't willing to give You authoritative answer, i.e. whom to blame?

daperl 2011-08-15 18:08

Re: Ask the Council!
 
misternamecaller crying because someone called him a name. Priceless.

jedi 2011-08-15 18:08

Re: Ask the Council!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 1070511)
I have been unable to get an authoritative answer on this. I closed the one thread where I could.

Well, thanks for responding. But how come you couldn't get an authoriitative answer? Are key members not responding? Is there uncertanty of the illegalities?

Should I take my question to Nokia as they're the registered owners of the maemo.org?

Texrat 2011-08-15 18:15

Re: Ask the Council!
 
There's been a lot of talk lately about moderation here, so let me share my personal moderation philosophy (note that I am only a minor moderator here with limited powers over a few sections).

I believe in moderators interacting with the community, and inserting warning posts in heated threads before taking more drastic action. Some moderators here may disagree with the interaction part but that's fine: again, this is my personal approach.

I believe willful trolling and spamming are greater threats to a community than insulting posts. I usually don't worry about a single insult-- I look for patterns of behavior. If someone shows themselves to be an obvious sociopath, or any other deliberately disruptive force, I don't feel like cutting them much slack. Members who are normally positive and slip up as typical humans do will see more tolerance. That's not favoritism, it's reason.

I don't respond well to whining. Not in posts, not in emails, not in PMs. I get enough from my kids. I expect members to be more mature... and most are by far. A few could use a thicker skin.

I believe in forgiveness for offenders sincere about doing better. I have little tolerance for persistent troublemakers, and none for those without remorse.

Every moderator here has their own approach, but the admin (Reggie|rsuplido) has the ultimate say. His philosophy seems similar to mine only much more "hands off".

As maemo.org winds down (and that's inevitable, just a matter of when) the anxiety level has increased here. So has the ratio of trolling to contributing posts. IMO we shouldn't be sweating the occasional off-topic or flaming posts as much as we should the patterns of behavior that serve mainly to disrupt the community and render this forum toxic.

But again, I'm just a minor moderator.

Texrat 2011-08-15 18:18

Re: Ask the Council!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jedi (Post 1070524)
Well. thanks for responding. But how come you couldn't get an authoriitative answer? Are key members not responding? Is there uncertanty of the illegalities?

Should I take my question to Nokia as they're the registered owners of the maemo.org?

I don't know why I can't get more engagement on your issue. I raised it, which is really all I'm empowered to do other than close, move or delete threads/posts.

You can try escalating to Nokia, but I predict even less success there.

I do apologize, because I believe you have a legitimate gripe, but again my powers are limited.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1070515)
I feel Your answer may be also related to my "edit" question from last post. Can You tell us (The Community, if i recall correctly ;) ) who wasn't willing to give You authoritative answer, i.e. whom to blame?

Ultimately, the admin (rsuplido) is the authority.

misterc 2011-08-15 18:44

Re: Ask the Council!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 1070533)
[...]
I believe in forgiveness for offenders sincere about doing better. [...]

could you explain me how sincere this post could possibly be?

Quote:

Originally Posted by daperl (Post 1070523)
misternamecaller crying because someone called him a name. Priceless.

except sincerely trying to start a fight, of course...

Texrat 2011-08-15 18:46

Re: Ask the Council!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1070564)
could you explain me how sincere this post could possibly be?

I don't understand the question.

misterc 2011-08-15 19:02

Re: Ask the Council!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 1070567)
I don't understand the question.

you posted

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 1070533)
[...]
I believe in forgiveness for offenders sincere about doing better. [...]

daperl posted

Quote:

Originally Posted by daperl (Post 1070523)
misternamecaller crying because someone called him a name. Priceless.

what, sincerely, do you think daperl was trying to do with that post?
better?

Texrat 2011-08-15 19:06

Re: Ask the Council!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1070585)
what, sincerely, do you think daperl was trying to do with that post?
better?

I think he was trying to get a reaction out of you. So what does that have to do with anything I posted?

I truly cannot follow your train of thought.

gerbick 2011-08-15 19:30

Re: Ask the Council!
 
Has the meetings with Nokia indicated how long we have for this forum as well as how long until a solution going forward will take to be created?


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