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qole 2010-03-31 16:31
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Originally Posted by lcuk (Post 589966)
unfortunately you might have kicked yourself in the ***.
because now searching for your name on google brings up your complaint post as first entry.
Interestingly, the second hit for me was a fascinating story about "Skating in the Vikings' footsteps":

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Skating north, the wind at our backs accelerated, and so did we. And now there were two skaters coming toward us, fighting the wind. Far out on the windswept ice, we met. "Talar du engelska?" I asked. "Do you speak English?" "Yes, I do," answered Kristian Wannebo, who with his companion Ylva Öhrskog had skated upwind from Sigtuna, our destination. As Kristian pulled out his map to show us our whereabouts, a gust of wind tore it out of his hands, and all four of us raced after it in hot pursuit. Finally Kristian dove forward on his stomach, pinning the map under him.

We could have talked for hours, but the wind chill was getting to us, so we parted company. Minutes later Arjen and I glided into the Sigtuna town pier. The adventure was over; I had to catch a bus back to Stockholm. The next morning I flew home to Vermont, sad to leave Sweden, but fortified with a great treasure of new friends and new memories.

Jaffa 2010-03-31 16:40
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Originally Posted by KristianW (Post 589918)
I just googled my name, and found the following :

" maemo.org - Kristian Wannebo" [...] Other members are similarly visible. ( I hope it is just a mistake in the settings in the forum software. )
This is your main maemo.org account, you can choose (indeed you have to when making changes) which pieces of information to make public through a series of checkboxes.
  1. Go to http://maemo.org/profile/view/kristianw/
  2. Log in at the top right
  3. Choose Page > Publish account details

http://talk.maemo.org/attachment.php...1&d=1270047374

However, I'd ask you to consider carefully the information you lock down - participation in a community functions best when people aren't anonymous. Having a non-anonymous community is a sign of respect and maturity - although there are obviously privacy concerns for you to balance.

Jaffa 2010-03-31 16:41
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Doh, too late.

Jack6428 2010-03-31 16:51
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Somone has probably already asked, but anyway...
When is PR1.2 coming :D ? This week or the next?

KristianW 2010-03-31 16:51
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Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 590081)
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However, I'd ask you to consider carefully the information you lock down - participation in a community functions best when people aren't anonymous. Having a non-anonymous community is a sign of respect and maturity - although there are obviously privacy concerns for you to balance.
EXACTLY, thanks Jaffa !

My point was, that some forum specific info on members should be able to stay within the forum.
Like, in this case, karma.

Unless, of course, the forum thinks otherwise.

qole 2010-03-31 16:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 590083)
Doh, too late.
Still, you had the nicest illustrations. I like the way the background is blurred out to make the AFB "pop out" like that.

Jaffa 2010-03-31 18:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by qole (Post 590099)
Still, you had the nicest illustrations. I like the way the background is blurred out to make the AFB "pop out" like that.
GIMP FTW (inspired by Maemo 5 ;-))

qole 2010-03-31 21:10
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Ah, but did you do the Gimp work on the N900? If you did, you get three stars on that level and a new high score.

Jaffa 2010-03-31 21:17
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Originally Posted by qole (Post 590422)
Ah, but did you do the Gimp work on the N900? If you did, you get three stars on that level and a new high score.
Ah, I see what you did there. You asked a question of the new council. Clever :-)

No, not on the N900, I'm afraid.

dneary 2010-04-01 07:52
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Hi,

Quote:
Originally Posted by KristianW (Post 589918)
I just googled my name, and found the following :

" maemo.org - Kristian Wannebo
maemo.org > Profiles > Kristian Wannebo. Karma 75. 0. 0. 0 Add to favourites 0 Bury. Websites. Garage. My Profile. offline Kristian Wannebo ...
maemo.org/profile/view/kristianw/ "
You should see what mine looks like! http://www.google.com/search?q=Dave+Neary

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Other members are similarly visible.
( I hope it is just a mistake in the settings in the forum software. )

Inside this forum we can be anonymous, and outside...
Personally I don't mind much,
but personal information should really not LEAK OUT of a forum.

Also, we promote openness in software,
and implicitly indicate superiority over the Microsoft world,
and should attempt superiority in security.

Please forgive my heavy-handed approach to the subject,
but it is really a matter of principles of integrity.
The goal is not that inside the forum you be anonymous. You created a maemo.org account, and you put your full name in the account. What gave you an expectation that your name & username would not be associated anywhere? And how does disclosing your name infringe on your privacy? Does a name now count as "personal information"?

I speak only for myself, but when I register and post on a public forum, I have no expectation that my name & username will not be publicly displayed. I *do* have an expectation that email address, phone number and physical address will not be displayed or shared with 3rd parties unless I authorise it.

Cheers,
Dave.

lemmyslender 2010-04-01 12:49
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Just curious: (and I know it wasn't the council)

Who updated the autobuilder to sdk1.2 for Fremantle, and why?

I know I've run into several apps that won't update due to dependencies that will only be available once PR1.2 is out. I've seen threads on several more. I'd guess about a dozen in all. If I understand things right, this will only get worse as time goes on, ie more apps that won't update because of dependencies.

(Even worse, I recently re-flashed my firmware, now at least one app I want won't install at all)

Will this cause problems with the QA testing? It seems there is a bit of a backup already, which seems like it will get worse if a bunch of apps move from devel to testing all around the same time when PR1.2 gets released?

Obviously (to me), this will only get worse the longer we go until PR1.2 is available.

dneary 2010-04-01 15:59
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Hi,
Quote:
Originally Posted by lemmyslender (Post 591289)
Who updated the autobuilder to sdk1.2 for Fremantle
Niels. The change was proposed and announced here: http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/mae...ch/025437.html

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and why?
The goal was to allow developers to get their apps built for PR 1.2 and into Extras before the firmware images came out.

http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/mae...ch/025668.html

This kind of backfired because so many people are using extras-devel on their N900s, and because developers couldn't test their own apps to get them promoted from extras-devel to -testing to extras-1.2, since they didn't have PR 1.2 firmwares.

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Obviously (to me), this will only get worse the longer we go until PR1.2 is available.
Probably, yes. Niels (ref. above) is looking at some hacks which will help with libhildon issues.

qole 2010-04-01 17:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dneary (Post 590947)

You should see what mine looks like! http://www.google.com/search?q=Dave+Neary
I don't remember you looking like this, Dave...

http://www.daveneary.com/images/DaveNeary-Photo.jpg

RevdKathy 2010-04-01 17:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dneary (Post 590947)
You should see what mine looks like! http://www.google.com/search?q=Dave+Neary
You should worry... if only.

lemmyslender 2010-04-01 18:56
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Thanks for the links. Now I understand the why better.

Next question for the current and new council: How long?

Yes, I know until PR1.2 and nobody can say when that is :( There are already multiple threads concerning problems. It'll start looking pretty silly in a week or two if there isn't a work around or release of PR1.2.

My N900 (my fault. because I re-flashed it) is already less useful to me, as apps that I came to depend on (again my fault for using devel stuff) I can not re-install :(

attila77 2010-04-01 19:08
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In the early days of Google I had that problem, too.

Texrat 2010-04-01 19:55
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Oh gawd, do not Google "Texrat". :o

Helmuth 2010-04-01 21:43
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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 591838)
Oh gawd, do not Google "Texrat". :o
And DON'T click on Images after your google search... :D

dneary 2010-04-02 08:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by qole (Post 591651)
I don't remember you looking like this, Dave...

[IMG]Dave Neary[/IMG]

Et tu Brute? You handsome devil...

http://www.americaneaglestudios.com/.../AlanBruce.jpg

Dave.

Texrat 2010-04-03 20:04
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Nah, this is Alan:

http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-pho...als-tXjAul.jpg

qole 2010-04-03 22:10
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Or maybe Attila's people kicked my *** in 370 AD.

lcuk 2010-04-03 22:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by qole (Post 594260)
Or maybe Attila's people kicked my *** in 370 AD.
attila77 the hun?

Flandry 2010-04-04 02:49
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Then my grandpappys the Nor'men came through and had a go at it, too. Ya'll are just doormats. :D

rebhana 2010-04-04 22:02
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Originally Posted by Reggie (Post 589935)
You have always been given the option to make anything private on your maemo.org profile. If you are logged in, go to: http://maemo.org/profile/edit/

Note that above it says: "Here is where you define yourself in the maemo community. You can set the privacy of each field after saving changes."

Save your profile and unpublish your first and last name:
http://content.screencast.com/users/...03-31_1050.png
When I edit my profile there aren't any options to select!!

EDIT: Sorry, now it does. It didn't before, because not all the required fields were filled in (the country field was empty). Because I was already registered that didn't produce an error message I guess.

mullf 2010-04-05 03:24
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Originally Posted by rebhana (Post 595501)
When I edit my profile there aren't any options to select!!
You can't trust "The Man". Just ask Homey the Clown.

leetut 2010-04-12 11:39
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why in this thread 'http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=42285'
is one of the tags for it, 'thread creator=dick'?

no one else find that slightly offensive?
or is it supposed to be funny

Texrat 2010-04-12 15:28
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Leetut, not really a council question but a moderator question. Any time you see something like that, feel free to use Report This and explain the offense.

andraeseus1 2010-04-13 02:02
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Here is a question. is there a way to avoid having to remember and re-install of of my aps on my phone after a fr/w update? i really wann aupdate but it took forever to finally get sygic loaded up on the phone and i dont want to repeat that process or try and hunt down all my fav aps whioch may or may not still be in the catalogs. last time i updated i lost the use of extreas devel and testing. i downloaded something called espejo mirror and it seemed to work just the same. sorry I am so long winded.

andraeseus1 2010-04-13 02:02
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is there a gloitch with this site? some times it lets me log in wqith no probs and some times it does not. I cant seem to log in from my n900 but i can log in from my pops pc or my wifes lappy. what gives? any ideas?

javispedro 2010-04-13 12:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by andraeseus1 (Post 607874)
Here is a question. is there a way to avoid having to remember and re-install of of my aps on my phone after a fr/w update?
Unfortunately the council doesn't do technical support :), so this is a wrong topic for this. But yes, there's two ways: use the builtin backup application or don't reflash and upgrade using application manager.

Texrat 2010-04-18 20:13
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Now that the new council is settling in... any questions from the community?

qole 2010-04-19 16:01
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Where do we get MeeGo stickers?

Texrat 2010-04-19 16:02
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Originally Posted by qole (Post 617902)
Where do we get MeeGo stickers?
Send me your mailing address by email.

RevdKathy 2010-04-19 16:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 617906)
Send me your mailing address by email.
Does that go for all of us? You'd better have a goodly supply!

Texrat 2010-04-19 16:41
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I actually have a very small supply... best to hit up Dawn Foster or Quim Gil. I had promised qole some before I went.

EDIT: although... when I finally get permission to use the logo and other identity elements, I'll of course design some custom...

SD69 2010-04-19 16:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 616567)
Now that the new council is settling in... any questions from the community?
This question...

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=179

Texrat 2010-04-19 17:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SD69 (Post 617976)
Ah... isn't that more for Nokia?

SD69 2010-04-19 22:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 617994)
Ah... isn't that more for Nokia?
It's up to maemo.org to ensure its long term viability (or not).

CrashandDie 2010-04-20 05:07
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Originally Posted by SD69 (Post 617976)
Yes and no. Nokia will be working on MeeGo, and the stuff that makes sense to bring over will be brought over. There are discussions on the MeeGo mailing lists to try and see how (copyright issues) we can merge valuable content from maemo.org to the MeeGo project.

This doesn't mean that what you are doing now will be lost. The expertise and knowledge that we display and share will definitely be re-usable, and will definitely be a big part of MeeGo. Don't think of this merger as "throw everything in the bin and start from scratch". Rather, "redecorate, fix the problems we have and move on".

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Originally Posted by SD69 (Post 618478)
It's up to maemo.org to ensure its long term viability (or not).
It's up to contributors to define their own goals. maemo.org can't force anyone to do something specific, however the Council can guide the overall direction, and ensure that the handover will be as seamless as possible.

Bottom line: we can either work hand in hand, and make sure the content we produce is re-usable, or we can be narrow-minded geeks, and only think about our own little selves. Guess which one prevails in Open Source communities.

qole 2010-04-20 05:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CrashandDie (Post 618808)
Bottom line: we can either work hand in hand, and make sure the content we produce is re-usable, or we can be narrow-minded geeks, and only think about our own little selves. Guess which one prevails in Open Source communities.
Do you want the Idealist or the Realist in me to answer that one? ;)

Oh wait. I'm not council anymore! I don't have to answer ANY of these questions! Mwahahaha! :D


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