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mikkov 2010-01-21 01:21

Re: Application manager broken
 
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Originally Posted by ndi (Post 485723)
I don't know why, but that was funny. Puzzled 2 - the sequel. (it's 3:15 AM here in Romania. And I work tomorrow).

Precisely. Browser gets it wrong, HAM gets it wrong, but apparently apt-get gets it right.

It stands to reason that since HAM fails, it's wrong. It also stands to reason that apt-get gets it right, so I'm guessing that something HAM does trigger the bug.

Beyond this point, I simply speculated that HAM adds something or removes something from the request that breaks the server. Furthermore, since it's not identical, it's safe to assume HAM is not a front end for apt-get, but simply uses apt libraries and has its own GET method.

It's also possible that though different both HAM and apt-get issue valid if different requests but the US server cored/is bad/does localized processing if it's unique.

It's just a static file, nothing more. And it's exactly what you see with browser. It's about application signing which HAM cares about and apt-get doesn't

egoshin 2010-01-21 01:21

Re: Application manager broken
 
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Originally Posted by mikkov (Post 485714)
Extras-devel is broken (I reported it, hopefully it's fixed tomorrow)

Thank you, but it would be very good to understand how /var/lib/apt/lists/...something... has a list of yesterday applications but HAM doesn't receive it a couple of days (periodic error on server?)

BTW, just double check - does it mean that HAM doesn't use /var/lib/apt/lists until it gets a right answer? In this case - why HAM doesn't get it but apt-get receives?

ndi 2010-01-21 01:21

Re: Application manager broken
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikkov (Post 485714)
Extras-devel is broken (I reported it, hopefully it's fixed tomorrow)

Then why does mine work? Update runs, no errors, apps how up, I installed from devel like 1 hour ago.

egoshin 2010-01-21 01:22

Re: Application manager broken
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikkov (Post 485726)
It's just a static file, nothing more. And it's exactly what you see with browser. It's about application signing which HAM cares about and apt-get doesn't

OK, understood.

egoshin 2010-01-21 01:23

Re: Application manager broken
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ndi (Post 485729)
Then why does mine work? Update runs, no errors, apps how up, I installed from devel like 1 hour ago.

You are not censored by this signature because you are in Europe :)

ndi 2010-01-21 01:24

Re: Application manager broken
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by egoshin (Post 485728)
Thank you, but it would be very good to understand how /var/lib/apt/lists/...something... has a list of yesterday applications but HAM doesn't receive it a couple of days (periodic error on server?)

BTW, just double check - does it mean that HAM doesn't use /var/lib/apt/lists until it gets a right answer? In this case - why HAM doesn't get it but apt-get receives?


Did you by any chance employ the repository relocation trick?
This:
apt-get -o dir::cache=/home/user/MyDocs/apt-archive-cache dist-upgrade

from here
It was also in the forums. That could give you dual caches.

ndi 2010-01-21 01:25

Re: Application manager broken
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by egoshin (Post 485732)
You are not censored by this signature because you are in Europe :)

Now I'm puzzled. US phones only install signed apps but Eu doesn't? That was not in the manual.

egoshin 2010-01-21 01:32

Re: Application manager broken
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ndi (Post 485733)
Did you by any chance employ the repository relocation trick?
This:
apt-get -o dir::cache=/home/user/MyDocs/apt-archive-cache dist-upgrade

from here
It was also in the forums. That could give you dual caches.

Thank you, good to know.

mikkov 2010-01-21 01:35

Re: Application manager broken
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ndi (Post 485729)
Then why does mine work? Update runs, no errors, apps how up, I installed from devel like 1 hour ago.

OK, extras-devel works for me too. But the same proble for extras-testing broke it for me. Maybe there's something more here, but I would wait that the Release file is fixed and then think about it more.

egoshin 2010-01-21 01:38

Re: Application manager broken
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ndi (Post 485736)
Now I'm puzzled. US phones only install signed apps but Eu doesn't? That was not in the manual.

Actually it has sense to look into which repository, you may get it it from extras-testing. Run apt-cache showpkg and look into which repository provides a package.


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