Turning Bluetooth On on the N800
 

When the N800 boots, the Bluetooth is initially off. Is there a convenient way to turn it on -- other than pulling up the control panel and accessing the properties form there?

Call me lazy...but I'd love some kind of quick key or tap sequence.

-F

Re: Turning Bluetooth On on the N800
 

Sofar (and hopefully not for very long!) that's the only way that works. Whatever you do, do not install the Bluetooth app from the 770 repositories, because it'll eat your N800!

Re: Turning Bluetooth On on the N800
 

You can train yourself to memorise the placement of tools>Connection manager and Connection Manger Menu>Tools>BT

:p just tap tap tap tap (8 in total). haha.

Normally from S60, memorised placements means I have 144 apps in the menu that I can access directly with code.

Re: Turning Bluetooth On on the N800
 

As reported in another thread on this subject, I've reported the lack of persistance for the Bluetooth On variable as a bug. IMO if you turn it on, the state should be saved between boots.

Re: Turning Bluetooth On on the N800
 

I don't think many care about the state of BT between reboots. What we want is a persistent dock applet as we had with the 770 BT app. As BT is a notorious battery juice sucker, it makes perfect sense that it should be as easy as possible to turn it on and off.

Re: Turning Bluetooth On on the N800
 

I like that "bug" then as I personally have no usage for the N800's bt (apart from the odd sending of files/streaming content)

However, I must admit, it did annoy me at first (lol, that was when I couldn't figure out how to turn the BT on) and then it suddenly disappeared.

IMO, the BT icon should stay with the status icons, regardless of whether it's on or not (Like the IM icon)

Re: Turning Bluetooth On on the N800
 

I too would like the Bluetooth icon and status to persist between reboots. When I am on the go, I want to be able to quickly turn on bluetooth, connect to the internet, do my business and disconnect. Having to dig through menus to turn on bluetooth all the time gets to be quite annoying.

Re: Turning Bluetooth On on the N800
 

Personally I doubt the first statement. Maybe I should start a poll. "How many enjoy manually turning Bluetooth back on every single time you restart your N800?" :p

Currently, if the setting is On, the dock applet shows and its additional settings are available. The problem is that the device does not save the value of that particular setting, so that it has to be turned on again after a reboot in order to reappear in the tab. Also the settings shown via that icon don't appear to toggle (or check/uncheck) which is poor design IMO. The icon should persist, and so should whatever settings the user wants to persist. So even if not "many care about the state of BT between reboots", WE should make that decision, not the device.

And to Jose: as I explained to another user, if you don't want the setting to persist, you leave Bluetooth "Off". That's the way it *should* be working, again IMO.

Re: Turning Bluetooth On on the N800
 

Sorry, it's not that I want bt perpetually off just that on the off chance i forget it's on, a reboot + bug would turn it off.

You're right though, we should decide how it does and doesn't function; I guess I was just lookin for a potential upside...it's not a very reliable bug anyways because it doesn't hapen too often to be reliable :p j/k

Re: Turning Bluetooth On on the N800
 

In addition to being simply annoying when turning Bluetooth on, it's almost painful to try to make my keyboard connect. My Think Outside Stowaway does not connect automatically. Instead, you have to open the Bluetooth dialog from the control panel, tap Devices, tap the keyboard entry (they have been paired), tap Edit, then tap Connect. WOW!

Am I just not configuring things right?

-F

Re: Turning Bluetooth On on the N800
 

Sounds like you have it right frethop. Unfortunately.

Today I took my N800 on the road since I had to run the wife on errands and needed to keep tabs on an ebay auction. I wound up having to reconnect several times and a few of those I needed to turn Bluetooth back on. One would think that since the phone connection requires Bluetooth that the OS would go, "aha! he's asking to reconnect to his Bluetooth phone. I'll make that convenient and activate the Bluetooth." Nope. Gotta do it manually every single time.

That's just nuts.

Re: Turning Bluetooth On on the N800
 

My vote is that this is a bug and must be fixed.

Both issues already discussed are critical. If I am using a keyboard and / or a BT network connection, they need to happen automatically between power and standby cycles.

Re: Turning Bluetooth On on the N800
 

I have not had the issue with my phone (Nokia N73) but bluetooth does not pop on for my Keyboard (Stowaway Universal BT) which is annoying, but I have not used it much compared to my phone for connectivity. It would be nice for it to be on - once you set it that way and for the status icon to simply stay active.

Re: Turning Bluetooth On on the N800
 

This issue is being addressed and I believe the solution will be to everyone's satisfaction. ;)

Oops, may have spoke too soon-- not ready for prime time just yet!

Re: Turning Bluetooth On on the N800
 

Texrat, which OS 2007 version are you running?

With v2.2006.51-6, selecting my Verizon Wireless (RAZR V3m) connection definitely turns Bluetooth on without any extra steps - which is as it should be, but not what you report. There must be some other factor that explains the difference.

It does, however, always revert to OFF at boot. I agree that for convenience, the boot time setting should be configurable as Always Off, Always On, or Last State.

Re: Turning Bluetooth On on the N800
 

Hopefully not with another OS upgrade that will force the user to re-install every application.

Re: Turning Bluetooth On on the N800
 

I'm not sure that at this point there's any other way. I'd love to see an incremental fix type of model on the tablets but...

And I'm running 51-6 on my own devices but testing 51-7 on another. My devices with 51-6 do not automatically turn on Bluetooth when I use GPRS.

Re: Turning Bluetooth On on the N800
 

Actually, if the "solution" is to turn BT on automatically, it's (to me at least) worse than it is now. I want to be the one who tells the tablet when BT is supposed to be on, I just want to be able to do it easier than it is now. In fact, I want it to be exactly as it was on the 770, where the solution was not dreamt up by Nokia, but by users.

Re: Turning Bluetooth On on the N800
 

Actually, the 770 also turns on BT when you connect to a network through your phone.

Re: Turning Bluetooth On on the N800
 

My point was that if I'm connecting to GPRS, and Bluetooth being a necessity, I personally have no problem with a feature that automatically activates Bluetooth since it is a requirement. I'm perplexed that this would in fact be an issue for anyone.

Re: Turning Bluetooth On on the N800
 

It's really baffling that the bluetooth symbol disappears from the toolbar when you use it to turn off BT.. and that you have to go all the way through the control panel to turn it on. That's definitely a bug in my opinion. On my T3, for example, there is a similar BT symbol on the toolbar, used for the same purpose, and when BT is off the symbol is still there, it's just grayed out a little to indicate that BT is off.

Re: Turning Bluetooth On on the N800
 

That's how the community-created Bluetooth applet on the 770 behaved. I'm still trying to imagine the mindset of the PHB at Nokia who thought that should be reinvented less intuitively.

Re: Turning Bluetooth On on the N800
 

There is word on the maemo-dev list that this looks more like a bona-fide bug in the relevant applet than a PHB's bad Monday. One person at least is working on a patch. It might be made available as an "unofficial" deb before the next OS update.