Re: I disagree with the N800 "Instant On" raves...
 

No, but I was thinking of something else I read about a while ago. Apparently, it would be possible to develop a Linux-specific BIOS that would allow "normal" pcs to boot in under 4 seconds. Can't seem to find a reference though...

Re: I disagree with the N800 "Instant On" raves...
 

Then that is just poor software design. It's not stated how the device will behave with mismatched time periods, and with mismatched timings it's not how I (and several others) want it to behave. Nokia should add a checkbox to the Display applet along the lines of "Disable screen immediately when locked - Yes/No" as this would then make the screen locking behaviour explicit and easily understood. Without the checkbox the device behaves inconsistently depending on the values used for apparently unrelated settings (ie. the two time periods). If it's not a bug, it's appalling GUI design.

Maybe with the next firmware release Nokia will add the polish that is so obiviously lacking from the N800, which they appear to have rushed in order to get ready for CES. :(

Re: I disagree with the N800 "Instant On" raves...
 

I just wanted to add that you don't have to edit any file as root, there's an option in the control panel to set both values, directly from the GUI.
(And someone posted a bug report for the need to set both values to the same, btw. Bug 959: https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=959 )

Re: I disagree with the N800 "Instant On" raves...
 

fwiw...

I have my N800 set for Brightness Period: 30secs, Switch off: 1 minute.

In this configuration, if I hit the power button and then "Lock TouchScreen and Keys". I see the screen immediately go dim. If I wait 30 seconds the screen goes black.

If I touch the screen within the first 30 seconds, then it goes full bright with a note on how to unlock it. Waiting 30 seconds more will make it go dim. Waiting an additional 30 seconds will make it go dark.

If I touch the screen while it's dark it will NOT come back up. I have to bring it up with the power button.

This seems perfectly reasonable to me.

From a technical point, it looks like there are two timer events running simultaneously. So, Brightness: 30secs, Off: 1 minute is "30 seconds to dim, then 30 MORE seconds will be dark". It's a total sequence length of 1 minute, not 1:30.


Anyway... that said, I do appreciate the new "Soft Poweroff". :) THANKS!

Re: I disagree with the N800 "Instant On" raves...
 

Can't say I agree... if your have the following settings

Brightness period: 2 minutes
Switch off period: 5 minutes

then locking the device and dropping it in your pocket means the screen will keep waking up for 3 minutes until it finally switches off. I don't know if the 3 minute timer is reset each time the screen is activated, meaning it could stay permanently illuminated in a worst-case situation, but either way it's a bizzare implementation that makes very little sense. :)

I suspect this scheme was implemented by a total geek who doesn't get out much, and wasn't QA'd or peer-reviewed by anyone who lives in the real world. ;)

Re: I disagree with the N800 "Instant On" raves...
 

And it's buggy as well. See my new thread in the Troubleshooting section.

Re: I disagree with the N800 "Instant On" raves...
 

This seems to be exactly what happened to me when I had my display set for 2min/5min and locked the screen.

Re: I disagree with the N800 "Instant On" raves...
 

Yeah... on 2nd thought, you guys are right, the stock concept of locking the screen/keyboard is hosed. :)

Re: I disagree with the N800 "Instant On" raves...
 

Looks as though Nokia have addressed Bug #959 in the latest 3.2007.10-7 firmware update - bascially, they've stopped the screen from dimming when locked so that it now goes straight to blank. Seems like a fairly simple and pragmatic solution to me! :)