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sebastian_ua 2010-03-31 12:33

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
cryox92, don't ask about age. U look as a kid here(<=18?), not that guy.
1. looks U do not understand what does high quality camera mean for the cells. expecting from small lenses and matrix Pan-TM700 quality is being stupid, same about any semiprof camera. don't U think so?
2. partly agree Nokia was not clear about turn-by-turn, and ovi maps page mentions it is cool, will work forever, check the devices; getting to device list pulls to the page which says n900 has ovi maps preinstalled and that could be confusing. but from the standpoint of law - its just fine. they didn't say it do not support, but they also didn't say it does. routing is not about voice navigation or turn-by-turn.
3. I was kind of expecting ussd and some other stuff being included in 1.0 version (a lot of were mentioned alreadt). But I knew what I buy! - the first maemo+gsp cell ever! and I know what the first version usually is - bugs, missed features due to rapid development and fast time-to-market desire. I also knew what is that device for, this is not trully the cell phone like any N** symbian, this is not for pure gsm+app users; it is for fans of all open source, shells, smart gatgets! it is also for folks who like challenging devices, who just like to configure something what is not working by default, and who understand what is the potential of maemo device.

It looks like your phone should be iphone or hd2 from htc, or n97; not sure if you would like droid/milestone or nexus one either.
From the other side, I saw your page about maemo stuff, so it looks like u enjoy that phone. but the spirit of that page contradicts with spirit of your thoughts here.

rpgAmazon 2010-03-31 12:33

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Well said efekt! And this is not a phone! It is a pocket computer!

ossipena 2010-03-31 12:37

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cryox92 (Post 589659)
Seeing as you cant use any other words than "riddicilous",may i suggest a dictionary?

so these are your greatest arguments forever?

ossipena 2010-03-31 12:39

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by efekt (Post 589630)
CELL PHONES ARE NOT A SUBSTITUTION FOR CAMERAS! (Well, not yet anyways)...

actually probably never.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffraction

rpgAmazon 2010-03-31 12:42

Problems updating to PR1.2
 
Hi all.
I read in another post PR1.2 is available but I can't see it in my app manager updates.
How can I install it? Will support Ovi Maps V3, portrait mode, flash 10.1, MMS and dual CP/M booting?
Thanks.


I can't belive you're reading this.

sjgadsby 2010-03-31 12:44

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
The thread "Problems updating to PR1.2" with one post has been merged into this thread.

rpgAmazon 2010-03-31 12:46

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Thanks sjgadsby, busy weekend I'm afraid...

OMG: That was the post 666...

pelago 2010-03-31 12:48

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nax3000 (Post 589599)
So does anyone know what's the flash 10.1 status? Will it be shipped with pr1.2? (I'm guessing no)

There's not been any announcements to say that it will be included in PR 1.2, so I think "no" too.

eitama 2010-03-31 12:49

Re: Problems updating to PR1.2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rpgAmazon (Post 589673)
Hi all.
I read in another post PR1.2 is available but I can't see it in my app manager updates.
How can I install it? Will support Ovi Maps V3, portrait mode, flash 10.1, MMS and dual CP/M booting?
Thanks.


I can't belive you're reading this.

LOL, 3rd time in 2 hours you fooled me :)

gianni_mar 2010-03-31 12:53

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Hey guys, i think Nokia is not releasing the 1.2 firmware cause they are having too much fun reading this speculation thread!!!

How to blame them....some really funny stuff in here...they dont want us to stop posting ;)

sebastian_ua 2010-03-31 13:03

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
saw the 'Hitler finds out no camera in iPod touch' and similars?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vECSyaegm1U

need to fire one about n900 with no turn by turn and PR1.2 update coming)

One about cool&free Ovi Maps available already, pretty old video though
Hitler Finds Out Nokia's Ovi Maps Turn By Turn navigation is now free
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRbCoh66yuU

rpgAmazon 2010-03-31 13:03

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
I can't stop thinking about the good boy posting "Update available" when it reaches the repos, and all the fanboys saying "oh, no, another troll, when will this stop..."

AND YES, I KNOW YOU WILL NOT BELIEVE ME, BUT IT IS READY FOR DOWNLOAD YET!

EDIT: PROVED-every time a son of ***** like me says "you can download", repos goes down... very very long weekend for Nokia.

Darkwolf 2010-03-31 13:38

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cthulhu (Post 563630)
I can't help thinking that people seriously should quit whining. The N900 has been out for less than 3 months and we've already seen 3 updates (2 minor and 1 a bit larger). There's a PR1.2 update somehwere not too far down the road bringing us official Qt 4.6 and other goods.
If you want to live on the bleeding edge (which the N900 is), you'll have to accept a few hiccups in the beginning.
Alternatively you could buy an iPhone and accept that you can only do with it, what Steve Jobs think you should be allowed to.

Sorry for the rant, but I felt I had to let it out. Still I eagerly await the PR1.2 update as everyone else.

Fukkin-A(men)! :cool:

Quote:

Originally Posted by m165 (Post 587074)
All interesting stuff! When you mention it is snappier, what about opening Conversations, is it smooth? On my device the animation stutters to open, not smooth like most other apps.

Same problem here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rpgAmazon (Post 589665)
Well said efekt! And this is not a phone! It is a pocket computer!

That was already the marketing definiton of the Nokia N95 back then.
"There is a thing in my pocket. It's not one thing, it's many."
Nokia actually prefered you also didn't call it a phone but a multimedia computer. Boy were they proud of their new brain child at the time.
The Nokia N900 is indentified as an internet tablet with telephony capabilities.
The bigger N810 had ferocious sex with the Nokia N95 and this is the result! :D


Oh...


And LOL to the people that whine about "please stop posting in here and let it die" or that this thread "is a waste of time". Kinda ironic and a big contradiction to their wish.
Not to mention one could just ignore the thread all together. It won't bite or bark at you when it's present in the topic list! :rolleyes:

volt 2010-03-31 13:51

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
So, ehm. You guys any much ready yet? :g

Laughingstok 2010-03-31 13:59

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by volt (Post 589811)
So, ehm. You guys any much ready yet? :g

What? :confused:

volt 2010-03-31 14:20

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Oh, I am sorry, let me put that in proper English.

I ment to say:

Hold on to yer knickers, cuz dies is OMFG wild!one! Gotsa be ready, it can be here liek ANY WEEK NAO!

sebastian_ua 2010-03-31 14:27

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
one year later, true story...

April 1: Nokia releases 1.2 which has just a widget saying you are now on 1.2 and replaces the version on About screen. Talk fires tons of defects 1.2 not really working.
Late April: Nokia agrees on defect and set target release for fixes to be 1.2.1. Thread grows to 70 more pages.
May: Few days before 1.2.1 release Nokia announces 1.2.1 would not be released to minimize integration costs since 1.3 is coming with turn-by-turn so 1.2.1 fixes would be there too. Thread is being renamed to 'Speculation about 1.3), 50 more pages added.
June: Nokia keep silence, thread grows.
July: Garmin releases mini bluetooth device for n900 with GPS lock support and preinstalled Syberia maps.
August: Nokia announce MeeGo will be release soon so there is no sense in 1.3. Thread is being renamed.
...
November: Google releases Nokidroid OS for n900.
Very late December: Nokia releases MeeGo 1.0 with no ussd, no turn by turn, ovi 1.0 with no get a fix possibility, and not working multitouch)
February: Nokia releases minor 1.1 update which fixes nothing. Thread size is now above 1000 pages.
March 31: Talk is waiting for MeeGo Firmware 1.2 which is coming soon.
...
to be continue

volt 2010-03-31 14:51

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Oh, my! Such an exciting future you're painting! *eager*

efekt 2010-03-31 14:58

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
At the end, Nokia would release PR 1.2 - but it'd just be a desktop widget which says "PR 1.2" :D

twoboxen 2010-03-31 14:58

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sebastian_ua (Post 589892)
November: Google releases Nokidroid OS for n900.

Hey... finally something to look forward to beyond a couple bug fixes!

...marks november on calendar...

puiradu 2010-03-31 20:28

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
so. let's hope for tomorow or better on friday?

jcompagner 2010-03-31 20:45

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
i do hope it wont come within 1 or 2 hours
Because that would be just for my bed time and then my good night sleep will be ruined

puiradu 2010-03-31 20:49

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jcompagner (Post 590400)
i do hope it wont come within 1 or 2 hours
Because that would be just for my bed time and then my good night sleep will be ruined

good night then!

don't worry about! it will not happen!

BN900 2010-03-31 23:24

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
You know what's the sad thing?

In a few days, we will all be talking about PR 1.3 and wondering where the hell is it!

I think we should just enjoy PR 1.1.1 then :(

It makes calls, sends texts and goes online. I'm fine...

nermaljcat 2010-03-31 23:32

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BN900 (Post 590578)
You know what's the sad thing?

In a few days, we will all be talking about PR 1.3 and wondering where the hell is it!

I think we should just enjoy PR 1.1.1 then :(

It makes calls, sends texts and goes online. I'm fine...


After PR 1.2 we will be awaiting PR 1.2.1 - for all the PR 1.2 bug fixes! :p

CrashandDie 2010-03-31 23:43

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
It's incredible the amount of reports we've been getting from this thread alone.

Could all the trolls, and off-topic-prone contributors please move to a corner and breathe it out somewhere else?

Thanks

cyeung 2010-03-31 23:48

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jcompagner (Post 590400)
i do hope it wont come within 1 or 2 hours
Because that would be just for my bed time and then my good night sleep will be ruined

I don't think it's within business hours over there in Finland yet. go get some sleep -- you want a fresh mind to enjoy PR 1.2 with if it comes out. :)

maxximuscool 2010-03-31 23:54

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Hope Good friday bring good Firmware update :D

nax3000 2010-04-01 00:42

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
loving the tags on this thread :D

Konceptz 2010-04-01 01:30

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 589380)
it is sad that itt has evolved to something like this. people were saying "its only momentarily bump downwards when new people arrive" but it has been constant downhill and new threads are getting stupider and stupider.

I've watched your posts degrade from useful to combative to offensive.

Is this how a Maemo greeter should act?

I agree with many of your opinions, though I believe you should take a break from the forums.

Lazarpandar 2010-04-01 08:24

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
I hope the email application is more responsive!

pillar 2010-04-01 08:30

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Guys, it's not gonna come this week, Friday is a day off here in Finland and it would anyway be a bad day to release a big firmware update. So everyone, just take it easy and enjoy what you have right now.

volt 2010-04-01 12:36

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
it's not a work day anyway, is it? tuesday is the next work day here in norway.

sebastian_ua 2010-04-01 12:37

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sebastian_ua (Post 589892)
one year later, true story...

April 1: Nokia releases 1.2 which has just a widget saying you are now on 1.2 and replaces the version on About screen. Talk fires tons of defects 1.2 not really working.
Late April: Nokia agrees on defect and set target release for fixes to be 1.2.1. Thread grows to 70 more pages.
May: Few days before 1.2.1 release Nokia announces 1.2.1 would not be released to minimize integration costs since 1.3 is coming with turn-by-turn so 1.2.1 fixes would be there too. Thread is being renamed to 'Speculation about 1.3), 50 more pages added.
June: Nokia keep silence, thread grows.
July: Garmin releases mini bluetooth device for n900 with GPS lock support and preinstalled Syberia maps.
August: Nokia announce MeeGo will be release soon so there is no sense in 1.3. Thread is being renamed.
...
November: Google releases Nokidroid OS for n900.
Very late December: Nokia releases MeeGo 1.0 with no ussd, no turn by turn, ovi 1.0 with no get a fix possibility, and not working multitouch)
February: Nokia releases minor 1.1 update which fixes nothing. Thread size is now above 1000 pages.
March 31: Talk is waiting for MeeGo Firmware 1.2 which is coming soon.
...
to be continue

so what I said previously is now happening:
at least someone got the April 1 pr1.2 widget
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=48897

puiradu 2010-04-01 19:56

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
I feel the silence around this PR1.2....
To be sincere if I let you know what feeling give me that waiting I probably get banned on this forum. A lot of stress and that feeling of the impossiblity to change things made me so nervous this days.
Finally it seems that the guys from Nokia don't give a **** about those feelings that they are producing around many of their customers.

WHY this update is more waited than others? Because it seems finally N900 is more approached by his value, now that some unbelievable bugs were corrected! AND wtf now we can have at least decent ussd codes (hopefully) without to install another and another third party app. Great stuff those ussd widget but can you imagine how much libraryes and python stuff you may put in your phone to obtain the final result: revealing mistery about your ballance! I better buy the cheapest phone in the market to check my ballance from time to time than to "fill" my phone with a lot of small packages... or maybe install this new PR1.2 who solve the problem.
There are a lot of needed bug fixes needed who PR1.2 solved.
The only problem is that the update is missing.
ONLY THEY KNOW WHEN... THEY WILL THINK TO US, MORTALS!

cduv 2010-04-01 20:17

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pillar (Post 590990)
Guys, it's not gonna come this week, Friday is a day off here in Finland and it would anyway be a bad day to release a big firmware update. So everyone, just take it easy and enjoy what you have right now.

Good point. But I think that this software update once is rolled out the people of Nokia haven't anything to do. Thousands of phones will be updated and if the software has any problem there is no solution. I think that the only reason for delay could be internal testing or waiting to increase "Desire" on the update for Marketing purposes.
Hope we have the update soon.Althought I think that is a great computer-phone, I'm starting thinking on alternatives. We can't be always in Beta status and we need an excellent software running a powerful hardware. I

Next firmware will bring QT 4.6.x that will be a nice chance to get more apps and better UI

Just my opinion... Nokia hurry up!!!

tissot 2010-04-01 20:18

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by puiradu (Post 591841)
I feel the silence around this PR1.2....
To be sincere if I let you know what feeling give me that waiting I probably get banned on this forum. A lot of stress and that feeling of the impossiblity to change things made me so nervous this days.
Finally it seems that the guys from Nokia don't give a **** about those feelings that they are producing around many of their customers.

I'm not sure if this is April fool, but i'll take it. First you are missing much in life if you feel stressed by your phone not getting update.
Second, non of the cell phone manufacturers tell in advance when the update will come and there's a reason for it. They will release it when it's ready.

wmarone 2010-04-01 20:29

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by puiradu (Post 591841)
[B]WHY this update is more waited than others?

Because there are more N900 owners now than there were when PR1.1 was released, I suspect. There are also legions of new users in the past couple of months now that Nokia has resolved some supply issues.

Patola 2010-04-01 20:35

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by puiradu (Post 591841)
Finally it seems that the guys from Nokia don't give a **** about those feelings that they are producing around many of their customers.

Yes, I also feel abandoned. It's irresponsible for Nokia to do that. Currently there are lots of broken packages due to the lack of release of PR1.2 and it is clearly slowing the N900's momentum: lots of blogs about Nokia N900 seem to be releasing less news than the usual since they're also forced to wait.

Chrome 2010-04-01 21:03

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
how to add tags to this thread?


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