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twoboxen

2010-04-12 15:58

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 607085)

That's hardly a killer app - it's a killer OS. And I'm not sure how good Android is when you don't have access to any of the Google tools (as those are not licensed on any other handsets).

Android is innovating, yes, so sue us for wanting to be able to dual boot to get fancy features AND openness.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 607085)

Anyway, I can quite understand that the N900 doesn't meet all your requirements, but please don't go claiming that those of us who are quite happy with what it does cannot "face reality" or are not "serious users".

I like how you quoted "serious users" as if I said that.

My point is that so many "serious users" (now you may quote me) will not take ANY criticism as legit. Note that I am not threatening to sell my n900 as many are, so I must be enjoying it enough. I merely want some fundamental uses to be addressed.

LOUD VOICES!

twoboxen

2010-04-12 16:00

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date

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Originally Posted by ggroen (Post 607095)

As for calling: change in settings the way the phone app is orientated, if it does not work for you.
And when you really have to wait before the screen is built up turning to portrait mode, you might consider deleting history in MicroB (really, that's a bug in some way), check your free space in rootfs, reboot or reflash.

Thank you for actually making a reasonable suggestion and not just blindly defending a platform.

twoboxen

2010-04-12 16:02

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date

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Originally Posted by xenkof (Post 607089)

Well, Nokia has something cooking for the rest of the world, my guess is the new OVI suite 3, check here: http://events.nokia.com/everyoneconnect/

Maybe they specifically delayed PR1.2 to coincide with this to show a new found TLC between their products.

Just my own wild guess, either way it's in only 16 hours from now.

I am hoping so, but I bet the new OVI suite will only be available on Symbian... again.

Normally, I'd be following an announcement like this very closely, but Nokia has gotten me to lose nearly all my optimism. I'd rather be surprised than disappointed again. Believe me, I would be surprised.

Omkar

2010-04-12 16:03

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date

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Originally Posted by xenkof (Post 607089)

I guess thats the launch of N8.. just a guess though :)

ugot1newmail

2010-04-12 16:15

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date

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Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 607085)

Well the last time I dared to criticize the N900 here the thread was quickly locked by one of the mods (no freedom of speech aloud here guys).

I got the N900 with the full understanding that it was in it's infancy and would take time to reach it's full potential. That was 5 months ago and no sign of this happening. In fact it's quite the opposite with all the attention about to shift to meego.

Bratag

2010-04-12 16:24

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date

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Originally Posted by ugot1newmail (Post 607133)

And yet you went off an created a brand new ID so you could do it again :)

abill_uk

2010-04-12 16:25

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date

This is without doubt the funniest thread on the forum ha ha ha ha ha
Sorry i could not resist lol.

aldevil

2010-04-12 16:28

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date

This might be not related.. but does anyone know how many updates are we expecting to finally get MMS, and Video Call!

ugot1newmail

2010-04-12 16:30

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date

No only the thread was locked...

w00t	2010-04-12 16:33

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date

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Originally Posted by aldevil (Post 607147)

This might be not related.. but does anyone know how many updates are we expecting to finally get MMS, and Video Call!

http://wiki.maemo.org/What_can_we_re...in_Maemo_5_.3F

Use fMMS.

aldevil

2010-04-12 17:06

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date

.. i thought when i bought the N900 i didn't have to manually configure my MMS.. (which i don't know how to)

skalogre

2010-04-12 17:11

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date

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Originally Posted by ugot1newmail (Post 607133)

Freedom of speech? This is an online forum. Like any other forum you either abide by the rules and respect the forum culture and conventions or you don't abide and get thrown out. This is not a Nokia forum, either, so we here will not miss you as a customer (on the contrary, actually). As I have mentioned before, posting here like any other forum is a privilege, not a right.

Would you go to someone's house as a guest, start whining and complaining, put your dirty shoes on the coffee table and demand you have things done your way? Go to one of the appropriate whinging threads instead if you want to complain.

skalogre

2010-04-12 17:12

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date

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Originally Posted by aldevil (Post 607178)

.. i thought when i bought the N900 i didn't have to manually configure my MMS.. (which i don't know how to)

Err, where did you see that it even had MMS built-in to begin with?

Rob1n

2010-04-12 17:26

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date

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Originally Posted by twoboxen (Post 607099)

I like how you quoted "serious users" as if I said that.

No, you didn't say it, but the person you were quoting (and agreeing completely with) did.

russo_br

2010-04-12 17:43

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date

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Originally Posted by skalogre (Post 607183)

As I have mentioned before, posting here like any other forum is a privilege, not a right.

Personally I don't agree with either options... Internet chats and forums only got popular due to freedom for exchanging information. A forum needs to get a critical mass of users to be relevant, and that's why services like Facebook or Twitter don't charge their users...

skalogre

2010-04-12 17:46

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date

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Originally Posted by russo_br (Post 607244)

Even 4chan fora have rules and conventions. That is how things are. This is a community site where the community has its own culture. I think many of the people posting here would be better served over at Howardforums, for instance, where there is more end-user focus.

ceza_21

2010-04-12 17:49

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date

hi guys just checked the nokia software updater theris a new update for nokia software updater itself do you think this is the sign for new firmware update for n900 :) ???

radiowc

2010-04-12 17:55

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date

Hmm, possible...downloading now. Thanks for the headsup.

egoshin

2010-04-12 18:00

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date

Quote:

Originally Posted by aldevil (Post 607147)

This might be not related.. but does anyone know how many updates are we expecting to finally get MMS, and Video Call!

Video Call - PR1.2

joshv06

2010-04-12 18:02

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date

Quote:

Originally Posted by ceza_21 (Post 607259)

hi guys just checked the nokia software updater theris a new update for nokia software updater itself do you think this is the sign for new firmware update for n900 :) ???

Anything happen? Is it the update?

joshv06

2010-04-12 18:23

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date

Nothing over at tablets-dev.nokia.com...

Dave999

2010-04-12 18:24

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date

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Originally Posted by joshv06 (Post 607277)

Anything happen? Is it the update?

yes...installed and restarted and now I suddenly have symbian installed. :eek: Strange.

joshv06

2010-04-12 18:36

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date

Weird, i updated and rebooted and I got WinMobile 6.5. Hmm..

kojacker

2010-04-12 18:42

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date

I'm telling everyone now. The firmware update is coming tomorrow - don't ask me how I know, I just feel it in my bones.

Either that or arthritis...

Ronaldo

2010-04-12 18:43

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date

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Originally Posted by kojacker (Post 607318)

I'm telling everyone now. The firmware update is coming tomorrow - don't ask me how I know, I just feel it in my bones.

Either that or arthritis...

i think its the latter :p

little_beat

2010-04-12 18:43

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date

Nokia repos going down in 3....2....1.....

rpgAmazon

2010-04-12 18:45

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date

Looser! After installing I'm the proud owner of a Silicon Graphics portable... anyone knows how to overclock it? (...yeeeees... of course... when portrait mode for Silicon Graphics?) Just bored.

Laughingstok

2010-04-12 18:56

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date

Tags are hilarious.

jake	2010-04-12 19:04

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date

Originally Posted by kojacker View Post

I'm telling everyone now. The firmware update is coming tomorrow - don't ask me how I know, I just feel it in my bones.

Either that or arthritis...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronaldo (Post 607321)

i think its the latter :p

Yes absolut, but to Symbian... :(

xenkof

2010-04-12 19:56

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date

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Originally Posted by Omkar (Post 607105)

I guess thats the launch of N8.. just a guess though :)

Well according to Gsmarena it is about a new phone, but not just one.
Check here: http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_to_ann...-news-1566.php

benny1967

2010-04-12 20:33

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date

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Originally Posted by egoshin (Post 607272)

Video Call - PR1.2

There's no evidence of video calls in PR 1.2 - only VoIP services get better video support.

tzsm98

2010-04-12 20:52

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date

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Originally Posted by chrisbartolo (Post 605141)

If Nokia drop support for our N900, and maybe also Pr 1.2 isn't real, then why should Nokia users keep trusting Nokia and dishing out large amounts of money to buy their products just for it to be absolute in a couple of months?
This is my first Nokia phone in a number of years, if they drop support for it, I'll surely be buying from a different brand, for myself and for the people in my company, so I doubt how much Nokia will benefit. Also i believe that Nokia should keep us updated and well aware on whats happening regarding our phones and updates, rather than leaving us waiting and just speculating.
Another point is how do they expect to compete with Android and iPhone when they're not developing new applications, games, etc. for Maemo? and if they are developing them, still how do they expect to compete if they're moving at such a slow pace? Don't get me wrong, I love my N900, it's just I'm not satisfied with their service, Even messaging them for problems, support etc, they take ages to reply and then just reply telling me that they don't provide support for my location, then why do they sell them here?...

Nokia dropped the N78-3 like a hot rock. The last update for it in the US was 21.002 (10-03-09). Elsewhere in the world 30.0.015 was released to take care of the issues not addressed by and those issues created by 21.0. That was 13 months ago. The phone works okay as long as you don't run into one of the unfixed issues. The phone had been released five months when Nokiausa stopped selling it and less than a year when the last update arrived. That is what "not supported" looks like.

Nokia is continuing to support the N900 by updating Maemo now and releasing Meego in the future. The future looks bright for the Type RX-51, not the "dropped like a hot rock" treatment at all.

ugot1newmail

2010-04-12 20:55

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date

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Originally Posted by skalogre (Post 607183)

Where does it say that I can't be critical of Maemo or the N900 in the "rule book"? And it's a phone so please don't start talking about culture!

wierdo

2010-04-12 22:32

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date

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Originally Posted by depu (Post 604320)

But nothing which says SIP video isnt possible either.. just that a VOIP account is required.

The UI is already there. I haven't yet had the time to explore why the video button shows up when I call my phone from the Asterisk console (I misplace it pretty regularly and that's how I find it), but not on other SIP calls, even with video enabled softphones. It might be a codec negotiation thing.

depu	2010-04-12 22:46

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Originally Posted by wierdo (Post 607685)

Probably, but the news is that it is probably going to be available.
AFAIK, there have been cases where starting a video call from gtalk client does open a video conversation, so there is some sort of limited functionality already available. It would be better if we get an official and supported functionality though.

mobiledivide

2010-04-12 22:50

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date

Quote:

Originally Posted by tzsm98 (Post 607556)

Wow, that was amazing I had that phone and I remember being really conflicted choosing between that and an E71. Two years later my wife's E71 is still getting updates whereas the N78 was left to languish in a bug infested state.
The current level of bug fixes and support and the promise of meego and QT support on the N900 is positively incomparable to that debacle

Jack6428

2010-04-12 23:15

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date

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Originally Posted by lord_phoenix (Post 605347)

@ Jack6428

True. But if it's going to be released in 1-2-3... months....there is no reason to stay with N900... it was one of the decision making point - quick support from Maemo team. Now it feels like there is no development except couple of applications...

We still suffering from bugs everyday of delay in firmware. Any announcement would be nice, you know just to decide for yourself whether you ready to wait and stick to this OS or move on.

That's how you feel habibi, I live a different reality where everything is perfect (regarding Maemo) :D

ioan	2010-04-12 23:23

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date

I'm ready to speculate: tonight is the night when PR 1.2 would be available for download.

I have a feeling in my guts that I may be right (or could be the beans I had for lunch).

Ronaldo

2010-04-12 23:30

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date

Quote:

Originally Posted by ioan (Post 607749)

I'm ready to speculate: tonight is the night when PR 1.2 would be available for download.

I have a feeling in my guts that I may be right (or could be the beans I had for lunch).

nothing yet, think it was the beans?

ajamils

2010-04-12 23:30

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date

Quote:

Originally Posted by ioan (Post 607749)

I'm ready to speculate: tonight is the night when PR 1.2 would be available for download.

I have a feeling in my guts that I may be right (or could be the beans I had for lunch).

I had the similar feeling in my guts until I had some Ginger Ale and visited the "relaxing room". Now no more gut feeling. So I guess, PR 1.2 is not coming out tonight :p

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