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Milhouse 2010-01-27 20:33
Re: Apple iPad
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan_Peery (Post 498160)
That particular behavior annoy you, but it's EXACTLY what I want my N900 to do.

I don't have my headphones on every moment at work. If I pull them off and leave them lying on the desk, the *best* way I will know that a call is incoming is the ring out through the phone's speakers. Yes, I could try and keep the N900 in my peripheral vision, but if I turn around to talk to someone on the other side of me I'd miss the call.

Yes, I can see why you want it your way. And I would agree that missing that way of operation does knock it down from "really good".
Yes, and there's a common sense solution to it - play the ringtone through the device speakers when music is not being played through the headphones, but play the ringtone through the headphones when music IS being played. A sensible enough solution that will work for virtually all people, instead the carriage gets to hear my ringtone and I get near silence through my noise cancelling headphones.

You'd think Nokia would have worked this out after all their years manufacturing phones yet they seem to be utter novices.

ARJWright 2010-01-27 20:33
Re: Apple iPad
 
Here's something to chew on:

The iPad uses what's called a microSIM card. Basically an readaptation of an external modem. This makes it logical to take your SIM out of your iPad and drop it into an unlocked mobile when you need more portability.

Both devices can connect to several online services to keep information synced.

Or, the SIM card becomes the persons hardware, software, and services validation key. Making the connection to a carrier not so much vital as much as it does point as an easier way to see how specific users are utilizing services - go back and look at Nokia's 2015 video.

This (connection to the web as a utility) is pre-paid. With such a decision on the hardware side, one would have to assume that usage based polices from carriers aren't that far away.

Just a little something to think about.

edgedemon 2010-01-27 20:33
Re: Apple iPad
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Milhouse (Post 498125)
I'm not complaining about missing apps, although more would be nice but that's not entirely Nokias fault.

What I am frustrated by is the out of the box experience - email could/should be better by now, RSS is a very useful app but the out of the box version hasn't been updated since it was first released in 2005. I'm frustrated because I just can't see Apple doing to it's customers what Nokia does to us.

You buy an Apple device and, out of the box it will work and it will work very well. N900? Yeah, it works, kinda. If you're lucky you might be able to download a third party app to replace the built-in apps, as they're a bit rubbish and Nokia hasn't had the time or resources to update them. Maybe when you buy the next device they'll have been updated. Or maybe not.

If Nokia want to compete they really need to start thinking more about delivering a top notch end-product rather than this progressively improving project which is becoming an expensive past time for many of us.
Fair points, but for me, Im happy, you wouldn't believe how bad WinMo has been upto 6.5, everything should work and didn't.
For me, this is the first phone where I can go out and still be connected to everything, and it works, so I can't complain.
Im nearly tempted to send you my old i780 and see if you still complain about nokia after that, they will seem perfect then!!!!

Brank 2010-01-27 20:34
Re: Apple iPad
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by edgedemon (Post 498106)
I was looking at the ipad - its OK, but I couldn't take it out and do everything that I can do on my n900, and that is a testament to how good the n900 is, though I do like the screensize
Who's to say you can't have a N900 a truely powerful mobile device with you everywhere, and a Nslate to bring with you for more mundane things. I think N900 has the potential to be able to do just about anything, but one thing it can't do is have a bigger screen.

Sure I can watch a movie or read a webpage on my N900 very well and anywhere! Like in a bus I'll whip out my N900 and watch a movie. It's not like I'd whip my Nslate out in a bus, unless it's a really long bus ride :P
Even in the morning I enjoy reading a paper and browsing the net. I could do all that on my N900, but I sit infront of my desktop computer to do this. But if I had a Nslate, I'd sit at my dining room table together with my gf and have the Nslate there with me.

It would be a luxury item. A inbetween item, that you don't actually need, but would be awesome.

Reggie 2010-01-27 20:34
Re: Apple iPad
 
USB port is an add-on accessory.

Honestly, why do people say that if there is no multitasking and no flash, it would fail. The iPhone is doing well, isn't it?

The apps would define the iPad. Really.

iamNarada 2010-01-27 20:35
Re: Apple iPad
 
It's all great news! I love it! I don't know why I was actually scared they'd do something interesting for a minute. I am curious to see if there is any impact on high end smartphone prices. @629 for the wifi+3G model, it's not a whole lot more than...say the Nexus 1, especially considering the 16GB and extra screen real estate (for the people who consider the extra size to be an advantage). But yes, over all, epic fail. No multi tasking, same old walled garden iTunes nonsense to get media on and off the device, no removable battery. I echo a previous post in saying the Notion Ink offering is much more interesting in this space/form factor. It'll sell, not doubt about it, just like the iphone and iPod touch. Anyone see an inkling of how much RAM is involved?

ossipena 2010-01-27 20:38
Re: Apple iPad
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Milhouse (Post 498180)
Yes, and there's a common sense solution to it - play the ringtone through the device speakers when music is not being played through the headphones, but play the ringtone through the headphones when music IS being played. A sensible enough solution that will work for virtually all people, instead the carriage gets to hear my ringtone and I get near silence through my noise cancelling headphones.

You'd think Nokia would have worked this out after all their years manufacturing phones yet they seem to be utter novices.
and if you forget to pause the music.... ?

mrojas 2010-01-27 20:38
Re: Apple iPad
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reggie (Post 498186)
USB port is an add-on accessory.

Honestly, why do people say that if there is no multitasking and no flash, it would fail. The iPhone is doing well, isn't it?

The apps would define the iPad. Really.
Same old Apple...

Pass.

Alan_Peery 2010-01-27 20:38
Re: Apple iPad -- camera USB
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrojas (Post 498176)
I am amazed at how it has no USB port.
There is an odd "camera connector" that "allows you to hook up your camera's USB". I don't know what functionality users will be able to get out of that.

HangLoose 2010-01-27 20:39
Re: Apple iPad
 
I am waiting patiently for Maemo 6+Qt+Better Ovi+Ovi Suite(with all of those weird little programs it is carrying) promise.

N900 was announced very carefully because Nokia knew that this kind of sentiment, unfinished device, would be brought up. After the miserable N97 lauch fail (and the device is still paying the price for it) I think they have learned a lesson or two about unfinished devices.

N900 blew my mind because of so much potential the platform promises, have not heard prior to N900.

Having said that. If Nokia can not produce a less beta-ish device, Ovi services continue lumping (OMFG, I can not even sync my N900 with Calendar), the launched Apps for windows/mac are still half baked (what is the difference between pc suite and ovi suite?) I really think there is no way back...

Who is actually going to be building software for this kind of mess? Who will buy the promise that "this is the step 5 of 9263"? Either I will go for Android and let Big G know all my dirty secrets or let Steve Jobs have my credit card in his pocket... Or then, dust off my old E61i and be happy :P


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