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I was a bit surprised when I heard the specs of iPad. Almost 10 inch device with no flash support and OS you can't fiddle with is not for me. I have seriously considered iPhone but at the moment I am very happy with my N900.

Nokia posts euro948 million net profit in Q4 (AP) - 64% increase in profits.

Big number from Nokia in Q4 2009 - 20.8 million smart phones and mobile computers (i.e. including N900 and Booklet 3G).

Oooh I feel so sorry for Nokia. Nokia is dying and Apple iPad will be the last nail in it coffin. Bye bye Nokia.

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Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 499167)

nope, those will appear partly when Symbian development goes to Qt, partly if Maemo -platform grows up and last but not least, gtk stuff ported from Maemo5.

You're *assuming* that Maemo will gain a load of new applications when Qt is ported to a completely different and as yet unavailable - Symbian^3,^4 - operating system!

Basically you're assuming Qt developers will be willing to port their apps to Symbian and Maemo and take on the burden of supporting both platforms, and while I know porting will be easier with Qt it's not a given that it will happen (even less likely if Maemo remains a niche player).

And you're also assuming Maemo developers will once again redevelop their apps for the third or fourth time. I'm sure many will, but it's getting a bit ridiculous, no?

You're also basing your comment on events that won't even happen until late this year, or more likely sometime next year - so, more waiting yes? All the time the competition moves on in leaps and bounds, gains more apps and even manages to maintain backward compatibility with all previous devices.

Your assumptions are far from convincing that thousands of apps will be coming to Maemo any time soon.

Ipad is the worst thing since Hitler imho:)

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Originally Posted by Milhouse (Post 499206)

yes, I don't see any argument that proves my arguments wrong.

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Originally Posted by Milhouse (Post 499206)

And you're also assuming Maemo developers will once again redevelop their apps for the third or fourth time. I'm sure many will, but it's getting a bit ridiculous, no?

you don't read anything about nokias part. They have promised to give tools for porting.

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Originally Posted by Milhouse (Post 499206)

You're also basing your comment on events that won't even happen until late this year, or more likely sometime next year - so, more waiting yes? All the time the competition moves on in leaps and bounds, gains more apps and even manages to maintain backward compatibility with all previous devices.

yes, you are speculating pretty much now. nobody knows for sure what the mobile world will be in 2011

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Originally Posted by Milhouse (Post 499206)

Your assumptions are far from convincing that thousands of apps will be coming to Maemo any time soon.

have I said that thousands of apps are coming? I've only said that porting is done much easier and barrier of entry for both platforms at the same will become ridiculously low.

bloke opposit my desk came in all excited this morning (an iPhone user) and when I asked what the purpose of it (iPad - sounds like a lady pad or summat) was and why I should possibly want it over a much cheaper e reader or a netbook which gives me the option to use it with one or both hands easily, he told me to end the conversation and has not spoken to me since lol

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Originally Posted by Milhouse (Post 499151)

Trust me, the only thing Nokia and Maemo has going for it is it's open-ness - if Apple mobile devices didn't have all the restrictions we know them to have I'm pretty sure most of us wouldn't be here and would instead be all over Apple products like a rash. Same with Android, although to a lesser extent.

The one trick Nokia has up it's sleeve is the open platform it is pushing, we want that to succeed so much - no really, we do - that over the last 5 years we've overlooked the poor out-of-box experience, under developed stock applications and complete lack of services. After 5 years, and with only an improved out-of-box experience to really speak of, is it too much for you to understand that some of us are coming to the end of our tether?

point 1 - er no. I have a personality

point 2 - I've been quite pleased with Nokia compared to some of the competition. I feel they may have dragged their feet a bit but N900 and future devs are promising.
At the end of the day if Apples are so inviting, move to them. I think they are a bag of cr4p with nowhere near the level of functionality that I'm looking for. I have a brain and don't want to be guided on my phone usage by Apple or any other firm.

iMeh.

Move along, nothing to see here.

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Originally Posted by bonerp (Post 499337)

point 1 - er no. I have a personality

I'll have to take your word for it, but criticising the users of competing products is hardly relevant when we are discussing the technology underlying those products. ;)

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Originally Posted by bonerp (Post 499337)

point 2 - I think they are a bag of cr4p with nowhere near the level of functionality that I'm looking for. I have a brain and don't want to be guided on my phone usage by Apple or any other firm.

That's why I said "if the competing products didn't have all the restrictions...".

I really don't think you can say the competing products are cr@p however - that's just being ridiculous. They may not meet the needs of a typical Maemo user, but they are far from cr@p.