Re: [Maemo 5] MaePad (Maemopad+ for fremantle)
 

MæPad 1.3 "The Substitute" has been released today with these changes:

Bug 9070 is still not fixed, so again no Maemo Extras action for this release. No problem: The source and binary packages are already available, linked from the MæPad website for your convenience.

You want to read the README with list of keybindings for some keyboard-ish productivity enhancements. Pin a hardcopy of this to your wall or above your bed for the best learning effect. If you are a hardcore Vim user already, most of the keybindings should be familiar to you. Tell me if you're missing anything!

Re: [Maemo 5] MaePad (Maemopad+ for fremantle)
 

..and a short video of the keybindings in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUSOBYzUVqA

Re: [Maemo 5] MaePad (Maemopad+ for fremantle)
 

I really like these shortcuts and will give MaePad another look now, as it looks a lot more productive now!

One thing, though, why don't you use more standard shortcuts for some of the shortcuts? E.g. T for going to the Top and B for Bottom, X for Delete and Yank and C for Copy and Yank? Can these shortcuts be user defined??? Would be ideal.

Re: [Maemo 5] MaePad (Maemopad+ for fremantle)
 

Perfect. Thanks for this. I will see, if I can paste the bindings in a separate note (or conboy page :) ) so I have it accessible on demand.

Re: [Maemo 5] MaePad (Maemopad+ for fremantle)
 

I tried to model the keybindings after Vim (most apply to vi, too). Vim users should already feel familiar with these keys (not all of them, though).

Also, some keys that you mentioned (X, C) are in a very bad physical position - you have to bring your left thumb in a uncomfortable position. If you try to hold your N900 with both hands (keyboard opened), and the thumbs on the keyboard, the most "relaxing" position is the upper center area. Many often-used actions (replace, yank, insert, create) are placed near the center of the upper row, and others (delete+yank, goto top/bottom, navigation) are placed near the center of the middle row.

Can these be user-defined? Not yet, and I don't plan adding this. Too much complexity for little gain (just learn the keybindings if you are not familiar with them, and you might get more productive when using Vim, too). I will add new keybindings to actions that are not yet mapped if someone requests them.

And no, I won't be adding an Emacs mode - there are too few modifier keys on the N900's keyboard =) (Emacs fans are probably already using Org-mode instead of MæPad, anyway...)

Re: [Maemo 5] MaePad (Maemopad+ for fremantle)
 

I am starting to use MaePad more, but I run into the question of how it is supposed to be used. This may sound like a strange question, but let me explain what I refer to.

I have created a data base, and started adding notes. As is logical, I guess, I use a hierarchy to add some structure to the notes. However, now that I have quite some notes, going through them becomes rather cumbersome as the only navigation options is going up and down all the notes and it is difficult to identify the different levels in the hierarchy because it almost looks the same.

How does MaePad supposedly deal with that level of complexity that naturally arises in any notes application?

I don't know whether this is possible, but could it be useful to add something like this:

• the ability to collapse levels (look at Projekt S80 or S60 from Kylom to see what I mean)
• Having different formats for different levels in the hierarchy
• Allowing the creation of folders and folders within folders, and allow them to be collapsable.
• Allow easy ways of moving a note within the hierarchy, e.g. by CTRL+<arrow key>

I guess what I am trying to say is that I need more features that allow me to structure and organise the information. Projekt S80 for my old communicator was a very nice note application and I think there may be some features that could be useful for MaePad

Re: [Maemo 5] MaePad (Maemopad+ for fremantle)
 

I can't use the "f" key in text memos, and have filled a bug in maepad's tracker. Each time I press f, the window gets maximized, but no "f" char appear.
It's only me?

Re: [Maemo 5] MaePad (Maemopad+ for fremantle)
 

Same here. You are not alone.

Re: [Maemo 5] MaePad (Maemopad+ for fremantle)
 

Same here, a big bug - but quite amusing in some twisted way... :)

/Fredrik

Re: [Maemo 5] MaePad (Maemopad+ for fremantle)
 

Fixed in Git: http://repo.or.cz/w/maepad.git/commitdiff/a4f3329c8a8

Thanks for the report.

Re: [Maemo 5] MaePad (Maemopad+ for fremantle)
 

Search-as-you-type is planned. With this, you can filter down your list and do organization by adding project names and "tags" to the names of your notes.

Re: [Maemo 5] MaePad (Maemopad+ for fremantle)
 

So "The Substitute" release is "Lost" due to the "f-bug"?

Re: [Maemo 5] MaePad (Maemopad+ for fremantle)
 

Yes, indeed ;) I figured I'd have to do another release with just the F-Word fix in it...

For freaky-fine fast typing fun: MæPad 1.4 "The F-Word's here" 's here - http://thpinfo.com/2010/maepad/maepad_1.4_armel.deb

Re: [Maemo 5] MaePad (Maemopad+ for fremantle)
 

Great application! Waiting to see what the next version, "The k-word's here" (jK), will bring!

Some feature requests:
Automatic rotation between portrait and landscape
Sub-items in checklist (just as it's possible in the main view)
A little icon or something showing that a node with hidden sub nodes actually contain sub nodes
Global "in node content" search (let's say we have a rich text node which contains the text "bus 54 coming 9.10", searchin for IE bus would list that node)
Increase size of sketches when needed (as in osso-sketch)

Re: [Maemo 5] MaePad (Maemopad+ for fremantle)
 

I don't get it.. please enlighten me :)

Re: [Maemo 5] MaePad (Maemopad+ for fremantle)
 

What about portrait mode? Would be nice for shopping lists... :D

Re: [Maemo 5] MaePad (Maemopad+ for fremantle)
 

As you just made a release with the only fix being the f-key fix, and you called it the f-words here, why couldn't the next release fix another letter? Anyway, no other letter is apparently faulty, and that joke wasn't that great afterall (tired when i wrote that)

Re: [Maemo 5] MaePad (Maemopad+ for fremantle)
 

Ah, ok :) I thought there was a real bug, and I even tried pressing said letters in the rich text mode to be sure there wasn't another bug =)

Re: [Maemo 5] MaePad (Maemopad+ for fremantle)
 

If you are not following Planet Maemo or my blog:

MaemoPad+ has been ported to Desktop Linux
http://thpmaemo.blogspot.com/2010/03...top-linux.html

This means that you can now open (and edit!) your MaePad files on your Linux computer with MaemoPad+.

Re: [Maemo 5] MaePad (Maemopad+ for fremantle)
 

I am loving this app thp :D

Have noticed a small bug with bullet points on Rich Text notes.
For instance, typing the following in

• This
• is
• a
• test

saving, exiting and then going back into Maepad. The note becomes

• This
• <...empty line...>
• is
• <...empty line...>
• a
• <...empty line...>
• test

If there is ordinary text before the bullet list, then there is an extra empty bullet added at the beginning of the list...

An odd one this?

Great app thou' and find the auto naming with time&date extremely useful!

Re: [Maemo 5] MaePad (Maemopad+ for fremantle)
 

That's a "wpeditor" bug, which is a text editor component supplied with the device and which also runs Notes, and the same bug happens in Notes. Please vote for Bug 5500.

Re: [Maemo 5] MaePad (Maemopad+ for fremantle)
 

Blimey...so it is...
I'm voting on that bug now.

bad nokia........

Re: [Maemo 5] MaePad (Maemopad+ for fremantle)
 

MæPad 1.5 "Productive" released; I've resumed uploading the source to the Maemo.org repositories, as the PR1.2 SDK fixes the problem we've been having. Unfortunately, this also means that packages built on Maemo.org are not compatible with pre-PR1.2 firmware releases now. The workaround will be that I'm going to build the packages in the pre-PR1.2 firmware and upload a binary package to the MæPad homepage (soon).

Here's the QA page: MæPad in Maemo Extras
More details: Blog post annoucement

Re: [Maemo 5] MaePad (Maemopad+ for fremantle)
 

The MaePad 1.5 .deb for pre-PR1.2 firmware is now available: http://thpinfo.com/2010/maepad/maepad_1.5_armel.deb

Re: [Maemo 5] MaePad (Maemopad+ for fremantle)
 

thanks cause i was wondering why it was showing libhildon > 2.2 version ..

Re: [Maemo 5] MaePad (Maemopad+ for fremantle)
 

I'm really liking the full-screen portrait mode for checklists. One thing that I would like to see in this mode (unless you already have implemented it and I am just not seeing it) is the option to toggle checks on and off without having to use the keyboard. Perhaps, one touch to highlight the item, and then subsequent touches on the highlighted item to toggle the check mark on and off.

Again, great app. I use it everyday.

Re: [Maemo 5] MaePad (Maemopad+ for fremantle)
 

That's exactly how it works, although the second touch to toggle has to happen over the area where the check appears, so the area is quite small. The "gesture" to toggle the check therefore is to swipe from the left (the N900's bezel) to the middle, which will toggle the check (only if the item is selected). This should prevent accidentally checking/unchecking an item.

This also works in non-fullscreen mode should you prefer to touch the items directly instead of using the toolbar button.

Re: [Maemo 5] MaePad (Maemopad+ for fremantle)
 

Thanks for the clarification!

Re: [Maemo 5] MaePad (Maemopad+ for fremantle)
 

I added the "vocal notes" feature request in the garage. Is there any chance getting it implemented?

Re: [Maemo 5] MaePad (Maemopad+ for fremantle)
 

Thanks for the great app - I'm using it daily and it really rocks (have to start using Desktop version as well still).

I'm wandering, is there any way to reorder checklist items without deleting and recreating them?

And second one - is there anywhere a list of hotkeys/tricks for the app I could use to save your time for developing this tool further? :)

Re: [Maemo 5] MaePad (Maemopad+ for fremantle)
 

hi,

i am trying to use maepad on a daily basis as a diary app
but i am missing following features:

1) sorting notes: latest note entries like 10-06-25 should
be on the top, scrolling in long list is not funny;-)

2) global database search function.

3) password protection of databases.


Blues

Re: [Maemo 5] MaePad (Maemopad+ for fremantle)
 

First, thanks a lot for existence of an example application for starters.

Second, how do I compile it? I have downloaded all the files, and I have installed several dozens packages, but when I run ./autogen.sh, it says:

aclocal-1.7: not found (what is it?)
/usr/bin/autom4te: not found (what is it?)
autoheader: not found
automake-1.7: not found

I'm sure I have automake1.7 installed.

So, what should I do? I haven't modified the files yet, I'm just checking whether I can build MaemoPad at all.

Re: [Maemo 5] MaePad (Maemopad+ for fremantle)
 

Use "dd" to remove the item (and copy it into the clipboard) and then "p" to paste the item from the clipboard. As it uses the normal clipboard, you can also "p"aste stuff from websites and messages as checklist items.

See this video linked below. If you know how to use Vim, you will be familiar with most of the shortcuts already:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUSOBYzUVqA

Edit: Oh, there is actually a list of keybindings: the README file.

Re: [Maemo 5] MaePad (Maemopad+ for fremantle)
 

Yes, please add this as a feature request to the MaePad Garage Feature Tracker.

Same here. It could be implemented easily, but I've not had the time to do so. Add it to the feature request list, so I don't forget to add it eventually (and so that other developers know what users want).

For now, you can encrypt your "memos.db" using GPG after finishing working, and decrypt before adding new entries. Maybe this can be automated and integrated in the UI. If MaePad is to gain password protected functionality, I want it to have strong encryption, because users will expect that from it. Or at least it should not be too easy to decrypt the file. You can add the "Add GUI integration for GPG-based file encryption" to the feature request list.

Re: [Maemo 5] MaePad (Maemopad+ for fremantle)
 

I hope you are taking about MaePad for Maemo 5, and not MaemoPad (the example app) or MaemoPad+ (for Maemo 4). If you are talking about MaePad, here's how you can compile it (all in Scratchbox):

You can find out more on the MaePad homepage.

Re: [Maemo 5] MaePad (Maemopad+ for fremantle)
 

Unfortunately, I do talk about MaemoPad example app for Maemo 5. I haven't realized at first, that it's thread about Maemopad+++, an advanced application.

Well... I compile on N900 directly, or sometimes in MADDE. In any case, it's not applicable, as I want to build not MaemoPad+++, but MaemoPad, directly from C source, with C compiler. Sorry for troubling you. Thanks for explanation. Have a good day.

P.S. To moderator: I will not object if you delete my two posts in this thread, as they seem to be quite off-topic.

Re: [Maemo 5] MaePad (Maemopad+ for fremantle)
 

If you really wish to, you can delete your own posts, but I don't think it's really necessary.

Re: [Maemo 5] MaePad (Maemopad+ for fremantle)
 

:D Oh, I love vim! Thank you once again! Now I'm much more productive using MaePad.

The only concern I have is that p is actually doing Gp. It would be nice to have it working as in vim - p puts buffer contents after the selected item, P (shift+p) - before it.

What do you think? :confused:

Re: [Maemo 5] MaePad (Maemopad+ for fremantle)
 

Sounds like a good idea. Add it to https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/?at...91&func=browse if you have not yet done so :)

Re: [Maemo 5] MaePad (Maemopad+ for fremantle)
 

Done! :D

Update: I've added information about o/O shortcuts there as well for complete consistency.