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vgondal 2010-01-29 08:48

Nokia Messaging Mystery Solved
 
Hi

Like many users I too was not able to find the Nokia Messaging Tab while setting up email.

So i decided to do some R&D of my own. I was using an Indian Simcard with local operator but due to my frequent travels had a simcard from germany and finland.

I inserted my Finnish Simcard ... of operator DNA and guess what the Nokia Messaging feature migically appeared. I quikly setup my email via wifi and then replaced back my India sim.

so basically nokia messaging is only activated on certain mobile operators....dont know why as there is certainly no charge or operator specefic features..

So far so good.. will report if there are any issues.. But i must say that i am very disappointed by the EMAIL support on the n900...

vishal

tuXer 2010-01-29 08:54

Re: Nokia Messaging Mystery Solved
 
If I sing up to messaging, I'll get 30 day free trial and after that I would have to pay for it, to my operator (Saunalahti)

benny1967 2010-01-29 09:10

Re: Nokia Messaging Mystery Solved
 
What I always wanted to asked and never understood:
WTF is Nokia Messaging? And how is it different from Ovi Mail? And why would my carrier need to support it? Their homepage fails to communicate what it is. (Which isn't unusual with Nokia.)

Rob1n 2010-01-29 09:24

Re: Nokia Messaging Mystery Solved
 
Nokia Messaging is, as I understand it, a way of centralising all your mail systems. It will pull in mail from various accounts, and allow you to get it in one place. The functionality is being sold to carriers, so some carriers will offer their own branded versions (possibly at an extra cost). In this case, the free Nokia service will no longer be available to users with that carrier.

jsa 2010-01-29 09:30

Re: Nokia Messaging Mystery Solved
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 500587)
What I always wanted to asked and never understood:
WTF is Nokia Messaging? And how is it different from Ovi Mail? And why would my carrier need to support it? Their homepage fails to communicate what it is. (Which isn't unusual with Nokia.)

Nokia Messaging is their push email system which resembles the one that comes with Blackberries. You can add your personal emails to the service and have them pushed to your handset. Nokia makes the service and does deals with the operators. In essence, operators pay Nokia and customers pay the operator. With this operators can offer these "value added services" and Nokia makes sure operators buy their handsets in the future too. With Saunalahti it doesn't require a data plan an comes at 5e/month.

Ovi mail is Nokia's "my first email" aimed at people in developing countries who likely have never had a computer(and e-mail) before. It is bundled with the cheapo S40 phones. Everything beginning from account creation can be done on the phone without ever requiring a real computer.

Mengs 2010-01-29 09:39

Re: Nokia Messaging Mystery Solved
 
has anyone actually paid for this service yet? i also have saunalahti, from finland, and have been using this well past the month and have not re bill for it or any warning or notifications... sorry for a little OT

benny1967 2010-01-29 09:41

Re: Nokia Messaging Mystery Solved
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jsa (Post 500604)
Nokia Messaging is their push email system which resembles the one that comes with Blackberries. You can add your personal emails to the service and have them pushed to your handset. Nokia makes the service and does deals with the operators.

OK... so if the operator doesn't have a deal with Nokia, I can't use it?

That's funny, somehow... I found a press release from April 2009 saying my carrier signed a deal with nokia and will offer NM for €5/month, but there's nothing about it on my carriers homepage.

Not very transparent...


Anyway, thank you for the information. It starts to make sense to me. ;)

Rob1n 2010-01-29 09:48

Re: Nokia Messaging Mystery Solved
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 500621)
OK... so if the operator doesn't have a deal with Nokia, I can't use it?

Generally speaking, if the carrier doesn't have a deal then Nokia are offering the service for free (though they're still calling it a "trial", allowing them to switch it off at any point). If the carrier does have a deal, then you have to go through the carrier (I don't know whether this happens transparently using the same Nokia Messaging setup, or whether you need to set it up differently though).

benny1967 2010-01-29 09:52

Re: Nokia Messaging Mystery Solved
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 500633)
Generally speaking, if the carrier doesn't have a deal then Nokia are offering the service for free (though they're still calling it a "trial", allowing them to switch it off at any point). If the carrier does have a deal, then you have to go through the carrier (I don't know whether this happens transparently using the same Nokia Messaging setup, or whether you need to set it up differently though).

I wonder if any consumer will ever be able to understand this...

I have no use at all for Nokia Messaging, but just knowing how it works for the average user would be interesting - maybe I'll just try to set it up when I come home and see what happens. According to the press release, there should be a €5/month fee, but there's no way I could actually order it from my carriers website. They would need to intercept my registration @ email.nokia.com to get my money.

BillyTheFish 2010-01-29 13:35

Re: Nokia Messaging Mystery Solved
 
I set up Nokia Messaging on my N900 earlier this week after getting tired of trying to get SyncML working well with Gmail.

It's working great so far, I really like it. I tend to get a notification from my phone that a new mail has arrived before it even appears on the GMail web interface on my desktop PC


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