Re: Maintaining OS2007-770
 

Dang.. I guess I have rely on my ability to walk through the walls (of PR people) then... ;)
You know the difference of hardware and software upgrades as everyone else knows it. There is also difference between licensed software and OS, which I think is also known by majority of readers here. No need to confuse these.
This device, beeing Internet Tablet, is propably more than any other device you have dependent of the world outside its covers. Bug fixes, security fixes, changing protocols, compatibility over the net, new features on the net - almost everything except mahjong can break on it or change. Who will fix it if it's authors have no intrest any more? I don't blame developers, but Nokia, who is accumulating unnecessary work to those who donate their time.

Just to humor you Texrat, I wonder what would be Nokias reaction, if N800 Opera would be filtered out of the Os2007 application sites and all programs would need root access and manual library installation untill Nokia makes consumer version of Os2007/770, so that access to N800 applications would effectively been limited only to developers? ;)

Re: Maintaining OS2007-770
 

Well, in CES, Ari said Nokia is commited to providing further updates to OS2006, but their statements about not having resources and concentrating on N800 development are very discouraging.

It seems 770 owners, at best, should expect an update by end of the year, as it would have the least priority for Nokia.

Re: Maintaining OS2007-770
 

Was this said during his presentation? I haven't read any comment from Nokia sugesting new consumer Os update for 770, only something not specific about "support" and developement mailing list comment about maybe realesing Os2006 update for developers.

Re: Maintaining OS2007-770
 

You have to be kidding me...

The 770 was the begining of the platform, it was fairly anemic in terms of processor power and memory... It was an amazing start, but I was never really content with its performance. With these mobile processor platforms, there is usually a lot of changes between revisions. It's not like they went from a 250mhz to a 300mhz Pentium II. The dsp and graphics accellerator have changed, they added an FPU and a camera.... all the apps seem to need specific optimizations for these chips and it makes sense to me that they would have to dump support for the older hardware. Yes it sucks, but I really don't expect them to pull direct x or core video out of their asses yet =p That kind of stuff takes years to develop, and I imagine within a few hardware revisions we can expect the cross platform support ya'll are looking for.

I love my N800, sorry if I sound like an *** kisser but I'm willing to buy their new hardware if it means constant advancement and compatibility.

Re: Maintaining OS2007-770
 

Os2007 can work on 770 and is already working on it. It's just about whether or not Nokia will make work good enough for consumers. It's not about hardware, it is about API's and compatibility.

Re: Maintaining OS2007-770
 

I fail to see the drama in my post. By all means, enlighten me so I can work on reducing it.

I have no problem with Invicta's sentiments at all. I just think his response (and that of others) is a bit hyperbolic. Does he have some legitimate concerns? Absolutely. Do I agree 100% with the direction Nokia is taking here? Nooo, and I've made that clear. I just don't see what good will come out of bashing. Respectful protest? I'm right there with ya. Reactionary invective? You lost me.

Oh, and for the record and in general: I'm nowhere close to PR. One poster here guessed my role in all of this, but I ain't acknowledging it. :p

Re: Maintaining OS2007-770
 

I'm aware of that... But if the first hardware platform wasn't mature enough to handle them well, that may be enough reason for Nokia to move on to the N800. The 770 was their first attempt. I'm willing to give them another shot at it, the maemo platform is pretty incredible and in just 1 year its much superior to windows mobile and palm (at least in my opinion).

Edit: Lol and if anyone sounds like PR it would probably be me... But I'm just a gadget slut =)

Re: Maintaining OS2007-770
 

Eh, just ignore me. I wouldn't say anything on this subject except that the sheer level and amount of griping has overloaded me. Sorry.

Re: Maintaining OS2007-770
 

Texrat, Envicta complained about OS2007 and 770 (software) and you compared it with demanding hardware upgrades on 770; that's why I said you're being dramatic.

I also don't need to guess your role (I've read that tread); IMHO, regardless of your job, you're a user and can have your opinion.

Nevertheless, I consider Nokia responsible for fixing OS2006 bugs; we didn't get our devices for free and having a stable and functional kernel+applications is a legitimate expectation.

Re: Maintaining OS2007-770
 

Judging by the postings from Carlos and Markku, the OS2007 port to the 770 seems to be going well and without too many major issues.

I would like to think that if the port is successful, Nokia may consider supporting OS2007 on the 770 in tandem with the N800 as equal partners. After all, it should be possible to maintain the OS2007 kernel and most of the drivers without too much difficulty, a few #ifdefs here and there, and make OS 2007 on 770 a mainstream release. Nobody is (or should be) expecting updates to the closed-source code, but Nokia should have the skill/foresight to write code that can support both devices without too much effort.

If full support for the 770 were then dropped following the release of the "N900", I would be happy with that.