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-   -   NOKIA guinea pigs........ (https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=43970)

daperl 2010-02-10 05:58
Re: NOKIA guinea pigs........
 
Thanks for putting it back in the box. This device represents more freedom than you can handle right now. And I think it's best for everyone if you just move on. You seem to be getting more bitter every day and that progression usually doesn't end well. Hope you find what you're looking for, but I think we've already got your message. Or, besides the corporate email provisioning thingy, did you have another laundry list you'd like to get off your chest before you go?

Fargus 2010-02-10 06:10
Re: NOKIA guinea pigs........
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mmurfin87 (Post 518841)
On an only slightly related tangent, it DOES seem like the Finnish developers are out of touch with American usage.

They assume everyone who uses the contact manager knows everything there is to know about all their contacts country codes. Maybe in Finland they do, but in America, nobody except PR people have more than one contact with a country code that isn't +1.

They don't support common Wifi security combinations in the US (even though those security combinations might be totally ******ed).

They don't support Email servers that the iPhone does out of the box.

Just lots of little support issues that don't seem to be an issue in Finland or maybe in Europe and Asia in general, but in the US we do things a bit differently (again, often ******edly) and Nokia doesn't seem to be on top of that.
Nokia produce phones that need to work for the majority of the world market. If the majority of their client base does things in one way and a single market decides to go their own way then is it really Nokia's fault?

ossipena 2010-02-10 06:24
Re: NOKIA guinea pigs........
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mmurfin87 (Post 518841)
They assume everyone who uses the contact manager knows everything there is to know about all their contacts country codes. Maybe in Finland they do, but in America, nobody except PR people have more than one contact with a country code that isn't +1.
What are you talking about? I am from finland and I have probably dozen numbers in my contacts that start with +358 (finland) & +49 (germany) out of 160. where is the problem?

maxximuscool 2010-02-10 06:40
Re: NOKIA guinea pigs........
 
lol fight to the death!

HangLoose 2010-02-10 07:13
Re: NOKIA guinea pigs........
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mmurfin87 (Post 518841)
Just lots of little support issues that don't seem to be an issue in Finland or maybe in Europe and Asia in general, but in the US we do things a bit differently (again, often ******edly) and Nokia doesn't seem to be on top of that.
Then buy American...

Fargus 2010-02-10 07:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HangLoose (Post 518897)
Then buy American...
Or adopt the international standards? lol

sygys 2010-02-10 07:39
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Well guys this is becoming a flamewar! The n900 some how sucks in support.

There is no way you can sync it at th moment with either ovi suite nor pcsuite. people with flat batteries arent able to start up their devices. USB connectors falling out. WIFI problems wich drains batterie in 6 hours, an ovi store with 10 apps, apps that are removed of ovi because they can be downloaded for free instead of pay (that is still not fixed). No turn by turn navigation for maps. There are a ton of things that should have been there to make this device to a complete succes.

But yet again nokia fails in doing this... And SURE! you have all the freedom! but 95% of the people that have a n900 dont know $hit about how to write programs and fix issues from the inside. And i agree with them that Nokia needs to fix those problems and not the customer.

When you buy a car and the engine wont start. will the care salesmen tell you: "yo man fix it yourself! This is not our problem" Or say: "in a couple of months we have a fix so you can drive". This is bull$hit!

I fix allot of my issues on my own. I learned it in the last couple of months. but i bare with the people that cant.

Stop flaming people that disagree with the Geeks on this forum. not everyone knows how to write firmware to fix this damn thing.

Last of all, i LOVE my n900, i really do!

lorelei 2010-02-10 08:07
Re: NOKIA guinea pigs........
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mmurfin87 (Post 518841)
On an only slightly related tangent, it DOES seem like the Finnish developers are out of touch with American usage.

They assume everyone who uses the contact manager knows everything there is to know about all their contacts country codes. Maybe in Finland they do, but in America, nobody except PR people have more than one contact with a country code that isn't +1.
:confused: and even if this was in any way a valid argument, since when a device must be american-centric?

twaelti 2010-02-10 08:18
Re: NOKIA guinea pigs........
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Guber99 (Post 518757)
Do you feel like u are a guinea pig with this half baked device........NOKIA making money and getting all the feedbacks for free to build a better device while you will be left holding the imperfect N900?
Yeah, we all are pigs - some enjoy it more, some less :D
Guber99 - please, before you fall for complete madness, sell that device. It doesn't want to and can't support provisioning. You are in the wrong market segment. Many others of the 25'000 here do not have that problem, or we would already have 5 Mio. Posts here.
And look at your post/thanks ratio: are you sure you are providing anything of value here?

RevdKathy 2010-02-10 08:35
Re: NOKIA guinea pigs........
 
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that certain sorts of security were never going to possible on a device with an xterminal, because that's a gapping great hole though which you can do all sorts of things with your device, thereby compromising security.

Mind, if a company is so concerned about security, they might not be dead chuffed with you accessing that so-secret email on a device that can leak data easily.

Off topic, I have never, ever in all my years surfing used an 'ignore' button in any form of group interaction. But I'm getting awfully close. Why might that be?


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