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Re: NOKIA guinea pigs........

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Originally Posted by kbeeveer46 (Post 518762)

I'm with RipTorn. I came from a jailbroken iPhone 3G and I don't feel like I wasted my money at all. We're all different and like spending our money on certain things. Some people like to buy shoes. I like to buy gadgets.

I like both:D

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All early adopters are guinea pigs - always, no matter who is the manufacturer.

Most of the time the manufacturer doesn't acknowledge that fact. Nokia did in the case of the N900. In an interview prior to release, Ari Jaaksi said the N900 wasn't for everyone. (No, I can't cite the reference, I can't remember where I saw it - probably shortly before Nokia World or something.)

It's unfortunate that a device fails at the one thing a user wants/needs it to do. If the problem can't be lived with, the early adopter shrugs and send the thing back (or recycles it on eBay or some such site).

The early iPhones didn't do MMS, couldn't send an SMS to more than one contact at a time, couldn't forward an SMS to anyone, didn't even cut and paste(!) and certainly couldn't talk to Exchange as a supported device (I know this, I've had all three of them).

But, I'm an early adopter, I can put up with flaws. I finally gave up on the iPhone 3GS when its limitations finally ran beyond my patience.

And I cannot be found on Apple fora berating the manufacturer because their device doesn't meet my needs.

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Originally Posted by Guber99 (Post 518803)

My N900 is in the box now, due to inability to connect to my corporate server.......iPhone 3GS came to the rescue.....flawless email

It's OK if the phone doesn't work for you and you return it.

But, continuously bragging about your incapabilities putting this device to good use doesn't shed a good light on you.

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I showed off my Nokia N900 to both a iPhone user and a Android user today and both were green with envy =o)

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Originally Posted by sygys (Post 518917)

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There is no way you can sync it at th moment with either ovi suite nor pcsuite
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Well I have no problem with PCSuite, click sync and it works fine. Not sure how much simpler you want it to be?!

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Originally Posted by sygys (Post 518917)

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people with flat batteries arent able to start up their devices.
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Yep, this is really stupid but how many people is this affecting in reality?

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Originally Posted by sygys (Post 518917)

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USB connectors falling out.
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I've heard of a few issues but not exactly widespread from what I have heard. Is nokia refusing to replace the affected units? Surely this isn't the first less than perfectly produced device?

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Originally Posted by sygys (Post 518917)

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WIFI problems wich drains batterie in 6 hours
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Again, most people I know using the N900 get longer than that but WiFi is a big power drain by nature of the technology. The same issues would be there if you used a laptop or other phone with WiFi in use all the time.

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Originally Posted by sygys (Post 518917)

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, an ovi store with 10 apps, apps that are removed of ovi because they can be downloaded for free instead of pay (that is still not fixed).
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OVI Stoe issues are daft but a) most features are available in the device so the is a reduced requirement for apps in the first place and b) there are tons of free apps in the Maemo repsitories for free!

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Originally Posted by sygys (Post 518917)

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No turn by turn navigation for maps.
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Is this really the end of the world? This is an applicaton under development.

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Originally Posted by sygys (Post 518917)

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There are a ton of things that should have been there to make this device to a complete succes.

But yet again nokia fails in doing this... And SURE! you have all the freedom! but 95% of the people that have a n900 dont know $hit about how to write programs and fix issues from the inside. And i agree with them that Nokia needs to fix those problems and not the customer.

When you buy a car and the engine wont start. will the care salesmen tell you: "yo man fix it yourself! This is not our problem" Or say: "in a couple of months we have a fix so you can drive". This is bull$hit!

I fix allot of my issues on my own. I learned it in the last couple of months. but i bare with the people that cant.

Stop flaming people that disagree with the Geeks on this forum. not everyone knows how to write firmware to fix this damn thing.

Last of all, i LOVE my n900, i really do!

This is why the N900 was billed as not ready for the mass market!

Re: NOKIA guinea pigs........

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Originally Posted by daperl (Post 518996)

Imagine if in June of '07 you bought a spankin'-new Apple iPhone. You proceed to join an iPhone user community to enhance your experience, but for the next 2 years and 3 months you have to see some new thread every day by the same tool who can't believe that their iPhone doesn't have MMS capabilities.

Actually... that really did happen. A lot.

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Could someone move this thread out of the N900 board pls.?

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Originally Posted by RevdKathy (Post 518978)

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that certain sorts of security were never going to possible on a device with an xterminal, because that's a gapping great hole though which you can do all sorts of things with your device, thereby compromising security.

scenario:

your friend borrows your phone for couple of minutes.

he installs rootsh, downloads a simple sh-script that is about couple kilobytes small. puts the script to cron for example (or to rcX.d to start it automatically every time device boots). now the script have about limitless possibilities for operation. for example forwarding your very secret emails to person x.

what does provisioning do with that? -nothing
what is provisioning for? -safety
whats the point putting provisioning into a device that lets any user execute anything with very little knowledge? -thought so....

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Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 519058)

your friend borrows your phone for couple of minutes...downloads a simple sh-script...forwarding your very secret emails...

Get new friends.

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Originally Posted by cashclientel (Post 519071)

Get new friends.

I believe the point being made is that provisioning is supposed to be all about providing a secure client to protect the server and content. If the device in question is inherantly designed to not be locked down then there is a huge whole in the arguement.