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marktold 2010-02-10 06:53

Portrait Mode vs. Scrollbar
 
Hi there

Everybody is screeming for portrait mode.

To me there would be something that would improve the GUI much more then PM.

In the App Govert you see a scrollbar that is really nice.

http://media.share.ovi.com/m1/s/1739...459576397e.jpg


I would love to see this scrollbar (maybe a bit smaller) on various places where you have a long list.

- Media Player
- File Manager

are just two which I would like to mention. When you have a lot of files or songs you need to flick your finger about 10 times to get where you want to go.

Often you end up selecting a song or file instead of scrolling.

A Scrollbar would take care of this problem

Regards Markus

Andre Klapper 2010-02-10 11:00

Re: Portrait Mode vs. Scrollbar
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marktold (Post 518884)
I would love to see this scrollbar (maybe a bit smaller) on various places where you have a long list.
- Media Player
- File Manager

Realistically speaking this won't happen as Nokia's way to go is kinetic scrolling.

Quote:

Originally Posted by marktold (Post 518884)
Often you end up selecting a song or file instead of scrolling.

See https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8420#c1 which is about the same issue. Feel free to vote for it though it's INVALID currently (no need to add "me too!" comments though).

maxximuscool 2010-02-10 11:10

Re: Portrait Mode vs. Scrollbar
 
yeah i find it annoying to keep swiping my finger until i reach the entry. would be nice to have scroll bar or by alphabet button like in some app.

qwerty12 2010-02-10 11:12

Re: Portrait Mode vs. Scrollbar
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 519186)
[...] alphabet button like in some app.

You'll like http://blogs.igalia.com/berto/2010/0...-and-vagalume/, then.

Strutten 2010-02-10 11:12

Re: Portrait Mode vs. Scrollbar
 
You can type the name of the file to find it.

pycage 2010-02-10 11:25

Re: Portrait Mode vs. Scrollbar
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andre Klapper (Post 519177)
Realistically speaking this won't happen as Nokia's way to go is kinetic scrolling.

They wouldn't contradict each other, would they?

mcdull 2010-02-10 11:28

Re: Portrait Mode vs. Scrollbar
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pycage (Post 519200)
They wouldn't contradict each other, would they?

I've also mentioned that in another thread. Kinetic scrolling and scroll bar can work together and I miss the scroll bar on 5800XM in viewing a long web page.

marktold 2010-02-10 15:09

Re: Portrait Mode vs. Scrollbar
 
@all

Well I sure thingk kinetic scrolling and scroll bar can work togehter. And it would be such an improvment.

@strutton
typing does not allways works. Works on albums but not on other stuff.

Markus

epage 2010-02-10 15:15

Re: Portrait Mode vs. Scrollbar
 
Sorry to disappoint you but Gonvert's lack of kinetic scrolling is viewed as a bug. I'd point to the bug number but b.m.o is running slow for me right now

EDIT: got it.

epage 2010-02-10 15:23

Re: Portrait Mode vs. Scrollbar
 
I guess to add scrollbars generally serve the following purposes
  • Incremental scroll (covered by kinetic scrolling)
  • Reminder at where in a document one is (only shown with kinetic scrolling when scrolling)
  • Jump to top
  • Jump to bottom
  • Raise awareness of being able to scroll
  • Jump to approx area (In an alphabetical list, one could guess a name with P would be about 2/3 the way through).

Am I missing anything?

I doubt we will change Nokia's mind on kinetic scrolling. The problem with both is duplicate means to an end that either takes up a large amount of screen space or is only usable with a stylus. We've seen this with previous versions of Maemo which ran on devices with larger screens.

What we can do is come up with ways to solve the missing features of kinetic scrolling without hurting the user experience.


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