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UNderworld 2010-05-01 15:13

Re: Should I buy n900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by THMaemo (Post 636397)

I always trust the Nokia brand, I never use other brand else

I stopped trusting nokia a few days after I got the n900, seriously:D

Dave999 2010-05-01 15:17

Re: Should I buy n900?
 
no, I suggest you buy a smartphone. x10, N1 or htc. or wait for somthing new.

unless you want a real kb. there is not so many good alternetives

x61 2010-05-01 15:18

Re: Should I buy n900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by THMaemo (Post 636397)
I think I know what it is but I want to have sure about all of these.

I don't like Android because I don't want to fix many thing like root or something. I want a physical keyboard and android only have Motorola Droid, I tried it and it really slow for me and in my country the Droid have many problems, I saw many people return it so I leave it.

I always trust the Nokia brand, I never use other brand else. I tried n900 a few times, I like it, it have a good feeling when I use it, But I just want someone that can confirm about these, And I really worry about the future of this device. Thanks :)

Seems you already have an idea of what you want... just get it and come back here and whine.

kazuki 2010-05-01 15:18

Re: Should I buy n900?
 
no, don't do it.

esthreel 2010-05-01 15:19

Re: Should I buy n900?
 
Yes battery life is terrible for traveling, but day to day use if you have a routine life it's OK. You can totally drain battery in 4h on heavy load. It will go something like 8 on normal use, Also disabling wifi, bt helps but then i sort of loosed the point and the slogan online as it happens...

P.S. by normal use I mean music, rss, email, and 15min of calls always online on skype.

UNderworld 2010-05-01 15:24

Re: Should I buy n900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by esthreel (Post 636413)
Yes battery life is terrible for traveling, but day to day use if you have a routine life it's OK. You can totally drain battery in 4h on heavy load. It will go something like 8 on normal use, Also disabling wifi, bt helps but then i sort of loosed the point and the slogan online as it happens...

P.S. by normal use I mean music, rss, email, and 15min of calls always online on skype.

talking about usage,
I watched top gear on 3g connection yesterday (video), and battery went from full to 70% in about 15 minutes.
that would mean I will not get to watch the whole 1 hour episode on a full battery:confused::confused: ... nothing was running in the background.:eek:

esthreel 2010-05-01 15:31

Re: Should I buy n900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by UNderworld (Post 636421)
talking about usage,
I watched top gear on 3g connection yesterday (video), and battery went from full to 70% in about 15 minutes.
that would mean I will not get to watch the whole 1 hour episode on a full battery:confused::confused: ... nothing was running in the background.:eek:

Yes this device is a BEAST at connectivity and multitasking, but they failed at battery life. I mean its like those gaming laptops, they are portable and powerful as desktops, but they cost a lot and have a full half-hour battery life :D

When you open the back cover of n900 there looks that there is plenty of unused space...

THMaemo 2010-05-01 15:32

Re: Should I buy n900?
 
I'm so surprised of quick response in this forum haha I never seen this before !!

Thanks to all

I choose n900 first because panorana desktop I can put many thing that I want to desktop and I can use it easily and web browser, I think it the best in the market right now.

I think battery is not a problem for me, I just use it with Edge or Wifi sometime When I travel or boring, other than that it will stay in my pocket.

I don't care about media because I have ipod already, I don't use it at all.

In my day life I not use a call much just a few time in a day and a few sms. I always use in night time I always have phone call in night but I think I can charge it when I use it.

I started to love this community, and now it become a one reason that I will buy this :)

What you think about these, n900 is the phone for me?

I think my post is not clear sometime because of my poor English, sorry about that, I will post again and again to give my information. So everyone can discuss about it. Thanks again :)

esthreel 2010-05-01 15:36

Re: Should I buy n900?
 
Well plenty of angry people are getting rid of N900, my friend got one from UK almost brand new for 250GBP so If you can get it cheap you can give it a shot, but not for the price i paid. Software part is way to immature to pay all the price, and when it will get better the hardware will be outdated...

Freemantle 2010-05-01 15:38

Re: Should I buy n900?
 
sorry, but another NO here as well.

abill_uk 2010-05-01 15:40

Re: Should I buy n900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by THMaemo (Post 636435)
I'm so surprised of quick response in this forum haha I never seen this before !!

Thanks to all

I choose n900 first because panorana desktop I can put many thing that I want to desktop and I can use it easily and web browser, I think it the best in the market right now.

I think battery is not a problem for me, I just use it with Edge or Wifi sometime When I travel or boring, other than that it will stay in my pocket.

I don't care about media because I have ipod already, I don't use it at all.

In my day life I not use a call much just a few time in a day and a few sms. I always use in night time I always have phone call in night but I think I can charge it when I use it.

I started to love this community, and now it become a one reason that I will buy this :)

What you think about these, n900 is the phone for me?

I think my post is not clear sometime because of my poor English, sorry about that, I will post again and again to give my information. So everyone can discuss about it. Thanks again :)

Sad to say this but just about EVERYTHING you want in a device the N900 either does it badly or not at all right now so best go for another device.

rpgAmazon 2010-05-01 15:42

Re: Should I buy n900?
 
No, you must not but it, but as we can see you want to buy it, so why not?
But you must buy and Android phone, as we'll do when enough money again for getting it.

abill_uk 2010-05-01 15:46

Re: Should I buy n900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by THMaemo (Post 636366)
First of all, sorry about my English.

Here is my first thread is this forum, so hi everyone :D

I'm going to buy a new phone, and what I want is ...

1. Calendar - I just want to use calendar to remind me sometime. If it can sync with Windows Live Calendar, It will much better
DONT SYNC

2. Messenger - I like to online Windows Live Messenger all day, n900 good about this? (and Ovi Chat is it good?)
DONT WORK AT ALL

3. GPS - I never use GPS but now I want really good GPS that can take me to anywhere and not make me lost :D
YOU WILL NEVER GET A FIX AND BE LOST TOTALLY

4. User-friendly - I don't want a phone that hard to understand, I'm just a basic user, and use it easily so I don't want to edit with some code :confused:
USER FRIENDLY NO WAY !!!

5. SMS and MMS - I use both all the time I know that n900 can't use MMS, can I fix it or install something to make it work?
NO MMS BAD SMS

That's all I want :)

And last thing ...what about the future of n900, Should I buy it now or wait for a meego device? (I search many thread about this but I want the latest information. All thread that have is so old right now)

Thanks a lot :)

EVERYTHING is not as you want it to be please go for another device.

m165 2010-05-01 15:46

Re: Should I buy n900?
 
Someone asking whether to buy an N900 on an N900 forum with a resounding no answer! Insane if you ask me, where is the support gone?!

THMaemo 2010-05-01 15:48

Re: Should I buy n900?
 
I want to buy it but I just want other opinion, maybe I can change my mind. and now I started to change to Android or another device. I still want many opinion.

Why no one is talk about the future of maemo ???

Thanks

rpgAmazon 2010-05-01 15:50

Re: Should I buy n900?
 
What future? Wait for pr1.3 for end the bugfix cycle for at least eight months? And then, buy and Android?
THAT is Maemo future.

Dave999 2010-05-01 15:52

Re: Should I buy n900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by m165 (Post 636460)
Someone asking whether to buy an N900 on an N900 forum with a resounding no answer! Insane if you ask me, where is the support gone?!

It's mostly the support for the device that is the reason for my: "don't buy it now if you dont get it for a really good prize". Nokia dosen't do anything for it. It's all about the community, and thats fine. But we also need paid apps.

m165 2010-05-01 15:54

Re: Should I buy n900?
 
Well, I'll answer your questions in another opinion:

1. I use the calendar to remind me of things, works well for me, never tried syncing though, never had too!

2. I connect to MSN, Facebook Chat, and can be signed in all day. Integrates into your contacts and normal message, very seemless.

3. Never had to use the GPS yet, couldn't comment.

4. I find the phone intuitive and very easy to use. I'm no Linux geek either.

5. SMS works brilliantly. You can get an app for MMS. No idea why the other guy said SMS is bad! It works very well!

abill_uk 2010-05-01 15:54

Re: Should I buy n900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by THMaemo (Post 636463)
I want to buy it but I just want other opinion, maybe I can change my mind. and now I started to change to Android or another device. I still want many opinion.

Why no one is talk about the future of maemo ???

Thanks

The reason no one talks about the future of Meamo is simple, no one knows what is going to happen yet and i STRONGLY suggest you read as many threads as possible then you will realise what the problems are with the N900.

kojacker 2010-05-01 15:54

Re: Should I buy n900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by THMaemo (Post 636463)
Why no one is talk about the future of maemo ???

Thanks

Maemo is finished, the future is about Meego.

Looking at your list it's hard to recommend the n900 to you, but try and get some hands on time with it and make up your mind then.

NokiaRocks 2010-05-01 15:55

Re: Should I buy n900?
 
Try it out and buy it if you like it.
I'm so happy with this piece of hardware and woud never trade it for such a crappy Android device...

abill_uk 2010-05-01 15:59

Re: Should I buy n900?
 
This thread is great it has one positive comment so far about the N900, just goes to show how many UNHAPPY people that actually own already a N900.

rpgAmazon 2010-05-01 16:00

Re: Should I buy n900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 636483)
This thread is great it has one positive comment so far about the N900, just goes to show how many UNHAPPY people that actually own already a N900.

Yes, but remember that ALL WE ARE TROLLS.
If you don't want to lie, you are a troll.
Nice rules.

Dave999 2010-05-01 16:03

Re: Should I buy n900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 636483)
This thread is great it has one positive comment so far about the N900, just goes to show how many UNHAPPY people that actually own already a N900.

well, i'm happy with the device. But not with the support from nokia. Only good paid app is sygic. And navigation is included in other nokia phones :mad:

Freemantle 2010-05-01 16:10

Re: Should I buy n900?
 
@THMaemo

Seriously mate, you've got an overwhelming NO as an answer here.

from the short list of things you want to use it for, the N900 doesn't really do them well at all and there are better devices for those tasks.

And as for the Future of Maemo, Kojacker said it. Maemo is dead, long live Meego. And we don't know what Meego is like yet.

The N900 has an amazing potential, but due to lack of support from Nokia that potential remains unrealised and is likely to stay that way.

But, on the other hand, you do seem keen to want one, despite the warnings...............

nosa101 2010-05-01 16:17

Re: Should I buy n900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 636483)
This thread is great it has one positive comment so far about the N900, just goes to show how many UNHAPPY people that actually own already a N900.

I'm happy with my device. Best browser out.

Crashdamage 2010-05-01 16:20

Re: Should I buy n900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by THMaemo (Post 636463)
IWhy no one is talk about the future of maemo ???

You have probably heard that Maemo will be replaced by MeeGo on future devices. MeeGo is a joint effort between Nokia and Intel, combining Memo and Intel's Moblin into a single OS.

This is very good news. And, Nokia has said many times that neither the N900 nor Maemo 5 will be forgotten and are backing that up. Maemo 5 on the N900 will get another major update almost any day now. It may well get more updates after that. The coming update will include Qt 4.6 which is very important since it will, in basic terms, insure that software written for MeeGo will also work on Maemo. So the N900 will have a long and useful life regardless of whether your ever upgrade it to MeeGo or not. It won't matter much as far as the usefulness of the N900 is concerned. So if you like the N900 and it meets your needs, don't worry about the future of Maemo or the N900.

OK, now I'll try to answer your original questions...but not tell you what to do. That's up to you.

1. Basic calendar functions like reminder alerts work fine for me, but I doubt it will sync with Windows Live Calendar. Don't know for sure, I don't use anything Windows.
2. Don't know, I don't use anything Windows.
3. I get a GPS lock very fast, in just seconds. Ovi Maps works fine, I use it a lot. It will plot a route for you, but does not do turn-by-turn or voice directions. If you're willing to pay for it install Sygic maps for that.
4. I really like the Maemo UI. Simpler and faster to negotiate than the Android phone it replaced. And if you don't want to use the terminal, you'll probably never have to.
5. SMS is excellent. MMS is not enabled out of the box. For MMS you will need to install an app called fmms. I never use MMS anyway. It's an old technology that will likely be gradually phased out by all manufacturers.

nosa101 2010-05-01 16:25

Re: Should I buy n900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by THMaemo (Post 636366)
First of all, sorry about my English.

Here is my first thread is this forum, so hi everyone :D

I'm going to buy a new phone, and what I want is ...

1. Calendar - I just want to use calendar to remind me sometime. If it can sync with Windows Live Calendar, It will much better
I preferred my e63 calendar. I don't like the iphone-like date/time selection thing. But its manageable

2. Messenger - I like to online Windows Live Messenger all day, n900 good about this? (and Ovi Chat is it good?)
Its integrated with the SMS app and it works like a charm


3. GPS - I never use GPS but now I want really good GPS that can take me to anywhere and not make me lost :D
I have a gps in my car so this is not a biggie for me


4. User-friendly - I don't want a phone that hard to understand, I'm just a basic user, and use it easily so I don't want to edit with some code :confused:
I'm a noob and it works for me


5. SMS and MMS - I use both all the time I know that n900 can't use MMS, can I fix it or install something to make it work?
SMS is awesome. I don't use MMS

You have to want the experience tbh. I like the whole product development process. Looking at stuff like witter or fmms and how they are developed. It excites me..i don;t know about you

RobertHall 2010-05-01 16:28

Re: Should I buy n900?
 
it seems the OP mind is already made up and is just here to get that final confrmation. it has been a resounding no but i wont say no...ill say answer your questions for yourself.
the future of maemo is an up and down story. nokia is neither admitting or denying that meego will be on the n900..so no one knows for sure....however they did state that they will continue to support the n900 irrespective of the release of meego....so take that as you want....about updates...the Hong Kong N900 version has been released with the 1.2 software...which SHOULD mean that it will soon be available for other regions.(few days to few weeks)...battery life is not the best..but im guessing many here had the n95..i am one who had the n95 and i usually carried 2 batteries....not a big issue for me......i do not use the calender for much but as a "to do list"....and thats works as it should.....most of the IM clients are available (msn facebook google yahoo) http://nokiamobileblog.com/n900-soft...-facebook-msn/
and they work well....there is also skype and fring....as for mms there is none integrated but there is a popular app that does it well....as for apps being available..they are quite a few and you will see a new one popping up every few days.....
lastly, maps....you wont get lost...but in comparison to what we are seeing on other devices....it is below par....
now the decision is yours....but i can tell you already made the decision.....

DoctorA 2010-05-01 16:30

Re: Should I buy n900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crashdamage (Post 636503)

1. Basic calendar functions like reminder alerts work fine for me, but I doubt it will sync with Windows Live Calendar. Don't know for sure, I don't use anything Windows.

If you have Outlook on your PC the N900 does sync fine using Nokia PC Suite either by USB or Bluetooth. As everyone has stated learning curve with N900 and I am still stumbling along....
Doc

Anarae 2010-05-01 16:31

Re: Should I buy n900?
 
I feel I have to clarify my view also.

I. Love. My. N900. There isn't a device in the world I'd switch it for. Overclocked(yeah don't do it), there is nothing that comes close to it in performance.

But would I recommend it for someone who wants MMS, GPS navigation, good calendar, MSN(works, but kills battery) or above all, a user-friendly and simple device? Never.

TylerD 2010-05-02 00:51

Re: Should I buy n900?
 
No

It's not a phone but an internet tablet with the capability to make phone calls.

I would say just stick with the phone you've got....and wait for a few months and hopefully there will be a device with similar or better specs compared to the N900.

wmarone 2010-05-02 00:55

Re: Should I buy n900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by THMaemo (Post 636463)
Why no one is talk about the future of maemo ???

Maemo has been merged with Intel's Moblin to create MeeGo, which will be on future devices, potentially including the N900. There is currently at least one pending update for the N900, with more likely down the line.

joshua.maverick 2010-05-02 01:48

Re: Should I buy n900?
 
Stay away, do not buy this phone. Unless you want to buy it from me, in which case $500 and it's yours.

mothmanex 2010-05-02 02:28

Re: Should I buy n900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by THMaemo (Post 636366)
First of all, sorry about my English.

Here is my first thread is this forum, so hi everyone :D

I'm going to buy a new phone, and what I want is ...

1. Calendar - I just want to use calendar to remind me sometime. If it can sync with Windows Live Calendar, It will much better

2. Messenger - I like to online Windows Live Messenger all day, n900 good about this? (and Ovi Chat is it good?)

3. GPS - I never use GPS but now I want really good GPS that can take me to anywhere and not make me lost :D

4. User-friendly - I don't want a phone that hard to understand, I'm just a basic user, and use it easily so I don't want to edit with some code :confused:

5. SMS and MMS - I use both all the time I know that n900 can't use MMS, can I fix it or install something to make it work?

That's all I want :)

And last thing ...what about the future of n900, Should I buy it now or wait for a meego device? (I search many thread about this but I want the latest information. All thread that have is so old right now)

Thanks a lot :)

1.- Calendar is Awsome.

2.- You can download pidign, which rocks with msn.

3.- It SUCKS, it always hangs, you can not depend on it.

4.- You won't like this one, it is pretty difficult in comparation to all cellphones.

5.- SMS is great, you can MMS with another app.

qosmio 2010-05-02 02:51

Re: Should I buy n900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 636459)
EVERYTHING is not as you want it to be please go for another device.

looks like you should as well!... Its not that bad , I got mine in December and no problems so far. just sell yours and move on....

sjgadsby 2010-05-02 02:54

The following threads have been merged into this thread:
  • "Shall I buy N900 or wait for Meego handset ?" with eight posts
  • "Should I buy n900?" with forty-one posts

nokiaman 2010-05-02 03:07

Re: Should I buy n900?
 
I say yes get it!
i have owned the iphone 3gs,htc touch pro2, htc hd,htc hd2, moto droid, and few others.

this phone is fun to use and the call quality is really really nice! My wife called me today and I answered in speaker phone. When we finished talking I asked her if i sounded okay in speaker phone mode. she said "you are in speaker phone, i could not tell, you sound great."

To ME the PHONE part of the n900 is perfect. sure it could use a better looking phone skin. but if looks is what is more important i would buy an iphone,lousy phone quality.

Also,I LOVE how fast my sms's and email go once i send them. The n900 just works! I have giving it 4 resets since i have owned the phone (a week). But the only reason i did the resets was because Im use to the OTHER phones ive owned, LOL.

To ME this phone just keeps getting better and better! Even my battery has improved very much. Last night I streamed 4 hours of tv shows, 42minutes long (each show) before battery died down.

The copy and paste shortcuts the keyboard gives you is the same as the desktops, I love it.

I can go on and on, this phone is made for people who are advanced and know and like hacking and such. but you dont need to do that to love and enjoy this phone.

One thing i dont like, the space bar on the keyboard! I keep hitting the M many times! To be honest i really need to practice and all should be good.

For what you want, this phone will deliver and do so much more. BUY IT!

fatalsaint 2010-05-02 03:08

Re: Buy a N900 now or wait for the Harmattan / MeeGo device?
 
Im really saddened by the amount of No's.. but I guess I'm not surprised with the way the site has been lately.

I like my N900.. it does what I need it to. That's really all I can say. Plus, keep in mind that: People that have problems tend to be much louder than people without.

travik 2010-05-02 04:23

Re: Buy a N900 now or wait for the Harmattan / MeeGo device?
 
Ive run into most of the flaws everyone has brought up here. Many can be fixed, but it usually involves some fairly complicated tweaking. Tweaking, not hacking or programming; you can do it all only entering Xterm occasionally, but it will take some time. Most of what you want will work, perhaps not elegantly, perhaps with the need to carry around a few batteries, but will work.

But most any smartphone from the past few years can do all that. Its true what you say about the current gen Android hardware -- ie the lack of good options if you dont like the N1 or the Droid -- but maybe you could pick up an older Symbian, Blackberry, or Windows Mobile device with a hardware keyboard and GPS that could do all that you want, maybe even cheaper. Nothing you listed plays to the strength of the N900 -- i.e. mainly the ability to run Linux apps and the incredibly functional browser. And in my opinion the solid camera, though many have problems with that.

I like my N900, but in looking at the negative comments in this thread, you have to keep in mind that what THMaemo listed pretty much made him the perfect candidate for being really disappointed with it.

I would say the N900 is a great device and a fun toy for a lot of people, but not the phone for him.


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