Re: Buy a N900 now or wait for the Harmattan / MeeGo device?
 

I LOVE my N900.

But I can't recommend it to my mum, dad, sister, cousins etc.

That says a lot really. There are better phones for everday joes.

Re: Buy a N900 now or wait for the Harmattan / MeeGo device?
 

The price is why I would not tell the average Joe to get one. Other than that if the guy just wants to do the basic the phone will do it nicely! Than after a year or so he/she may want more out of a phone. Now they don't have to buy another phone. Just learn more about the phone and your set.

Re: Buy a N900 now or wait for the Harmattan / MeeGo device?
 

Sorry, but I had to do this.
Meego?
No, YOU GO
*slaps*
*defensive slap*
"How can she slap!!!!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DpGEHaa6dY

Re: Buy a N900 now or wait for the Harmattan / MeeGo device?
 

yes buy it,,,it is great
i just bought it yesterday, and i like the screen, multiple desktops, keyboard and most of all it is linux and Xterminal.
all what u mentioned above u can do it..

Re: Should I buy N900 now or wait for the Nokia Maemo 6 device ?
 

I have used the browser on the HTC Incredible and the browser on the N900 and let me tell you that the N900 Browser is a lot more pleasant to use.

First, the screen is better on the N900, so when you are looking at anything tiny, the N900 is easier on the eyes.

Second, zooming is waaay better on the N900. Every time you zoom in Android, the text gets reformatted and you have to readjust where you are looking or move the screen a bit.

Third, everything renders better on the N900. Web pages seem to render more accurately.

Webkit MIGHT be a bit more responsive, but that is all it has going for it, in my opinion.

Re: Buy a N900 now or wait for the Harmattan / MeeGo device?
 

I cant wait anymore !!!

So ...

I just bought N900, :) wondering whether Nokia will provide officical upgrade to Meego ...

Actually, I hope the next generation Nokia Meego device (N9-00 or N920) do not have QWENTY keyboard or not as good as N900 from some aspects.

lol. I know its a kind of selfish.

The good news is that N900 will support Qt4.6. That means maybe many new apps on Meego can run under Maemo. I think if 90% of the new apps (especially some important, hot apps) of Meego can run on Maemo, then I can make a comprimise on this.

Re: Buy a N900 now or wait for the Harmattan / MeeGo device?
 

yesterday I lost my n900 :(

still buy another n900? or wait for meego device? after CES should be any news no?

Re: Buy a N900 now or wait for the Harmattan / MeeGo device?
 

I don't think Meego are ready anytime soon.

Re: Buy a N900 now or wait for the Harmattan / MeeGo device?
 

Nokia aren't announcing anything at CES. If they announce something it will be at Mobile World Congress next month or maybe a later event. I wouldn't count on anything in the immediate future, but nobody here really knows what Nokia's plans are, even if they are actually still going to release a Meego device. If they do, it may not be much like Maemo at all, so you might not be happy with it anyway. So you'll just have to take your chances, maybe they'll release something in the next couple of months, maybe it'll be in April around when or shortly after Meego 1.2 is released, or maybe not at all, you wont get a good answer here. And even if Nokia do release a new Meego device soon, you'll probably best off giving it a few months to prove itself, and for some of the inevitable bugs to be fixed. You are probably best buying another one if that is what you really want, and you can sell it when something better comes out.

Re: Buy a N900 now or wait for the Harmattan / MeeGo device?
 

The fast paced mobile world being what it is, a new, better device is always announced just after you've spent all your money on, and can no longer return, an existing device. So, buy an N900 now, but be prepared for a possible MeeGo announcement soon after.

Sure, that will be frustrating for you, but think of the rest of us. We've been waiting for an announcement for so long, and you'll be doing us all a great service by getting things moving.

(I have no idea if an announcement is forthcoming. I don't get any inside information.)

Re: Buy a N900 now or wait for the Harmattan / MeeGo device?
 

I guess we won't see a Device before May this year at the stores even if they announce it at the CES.

So perhaps, what about buying a old N900 at eBay?

After using my N900 for 14 Months I would say I wouldn't wait 4 Month without such a Device. And we don't know what is currently in the pipeline. (without Keyboard? only Capacitive Touchscreen? Harmattan with deb or full MeeGo core?)

If you buy a N900 now you know what you get. ;)

Re: Buy a N900 now or wait for the Harmattan / MeeGo device?
 

N900 seems like a crufty and obsolete phone by now. I wonder if it's possible to buy an Android phone and run Maemo/Meego on it?

Re: Buy a N900 now or wait for the Harmattan / MeeGo device?
 

What device is better than N900?

Display: not less than 800*480 (and not more than 4.1 inches)
Camera: not less than 5Mpx autofocus with flash
Keyboard: hardware QWERTY
Processor: not slower than N900
Memory: expandable to at least 32GB
Find it!
Wish: landscape/portrait support

Note: HTC Desire, Nexus S, Droid X don't have hardware keyboard.

Ok, HTC Vision (HTC Desire Z) might be good.
Capacitive screen, for better or for worse.
Slightly smaller/practically same battery 1300mAh.
Internal memory is only 4GB.
Digital compass. First HSPA+ device? 800 MHz CPU. Optical trackpad.
No FM transmitter?
Comparable with N900, with pros and cons. Released 2010, November.

Motorola Droid 2
Touch screen: resistive or capacitive?
Slightly larger battery 1400mAh.
Internal memory is only 8GB.
eCompass. 1 GHz processor
No FM transmitter?
Comparable with N900, with pros and cons. Better than HTC Vision? Released 2010, August.

MeeGo was ported to HTC Desire and Nexus S, don't know about HTC Vision.


I thought so! The feature list above is understated. I would have written "expandable to at least 64GB" or "internal memory at least 32GB", but then it would be plain impossible to find such a device - large internal memory is a rarity today.
I would have written "FM transceiver", but I don't use it that much.
I would have written "walkie-talkie included", but even N900 doesn't have it (toughphone does, but it's completely another concept http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entry...hones-from-JCB).


Side-note: MeeGo should be easier to port to an Android device (IMHO).
Oh, yes, Google search turned up Nexus S running MeeGo and Ubuntu.
And: Maemo ported to Archos tablet.
In both cases WiFi mentioned as non-working.

Re: Buy a N900 now or wait for the Harmattan / MeeGo device?
 

Already done

Re: Buy a N900 now or wait for the Harmattan / MeeGo device?
 

Why get an N900? Meego will be ages till you see anything viable, most bugs fixed etc.

Get a stop gap phone, there are plenty of much better phones in hardware, support, manufacture quality, software offerings etc. With much better ones in the pipeline (dual core etc). And despite the vapourware and rumous that Nokia work with, these phones have been seen at the CES and other shows. They will actually be on sale some time soon.

Base your decision on what the phone can do against the competition and also look at what Nokia offers. Ovi store is still pants after a year, Ovi maps is even worse. Hardware is surpassed by HTC and Samsung phones, Android has a market place etc.

I am bias as the N900 is rubbish, but read round and don't just get an old tech phone with no official support for the sake of it, hoping that what comes after will be something you want, based on hearsay, a few devel' efforts and Nokia vapourware.


I don't get your post? There were plenty of phones much better than the N900 when the N900 came out if you look at just hardware, 32 GB expandable is the norm for a lot of phones now and the N900 can't use SD above 16GB? (as I understand it). HTC desire Z has more memory, faster chip, hardware keyboard and is supported? The only real saving grace for the N900 is the dedicated memory for apps (Though some come close), yet as the N900 was about 30 quid more expensive than any other phone at the time, you paid for that.

Re: Buy a N900 now or wait for the Harmattan / MeeGo device?
 

I don't want to use Android, I would quite like to be able to hack on Meego. While the Desire Z has better specs than the N900, it doesn't have a hugely fast processor and is pretty pricey. It's also a Snapdragon processor and I'm not sure as to the status of GPU acceleration with those devices.

I am a little tempted by the Motorola Milestone 2, as it appears it's now possible to get around the efuse business, and as it uses an OMAP processor (though I don't know enough about the PowerVR binary blob driver to be sure that it will be work and therefore justify spending quite a bit of money on the phone)

Re: Buy a N900 now or wait for the Harmattan / MeeGo device?
 

I just can't recommend a machine that has zero official support and some of the most integrated bits (read: Skype) will not get any updates... all it takes is a change in their network and you're left with limited functionality if any access at all.

Something that anybody that's seen any purplelib based communication based go where for months it was not able to access the Yahoo network reliably. Imagine that happening to something that folks rely upon.

With MeeGo forthcoming, there will probably be no updates to Modest - it needs them - or the browser, none to the Flash plugin and that increases by day how many pieces get left in limbo.

Re: Buy a N900 now or wait for the Harmattan / MeeGo device?
 

32 SDHC works (but there are no fast cards aviable at the moment) - so 64GB Memory at the N900 is possible

Re: Buy a N900 now or wait for the Harmattan / MeeGo device?
 

If you want to make any SIP calls then STAY AWAY from N900. Sip calls are quite choppy with N900. Moreover it doesnt work well with Freeswitch server too.

Since meego uses the same codebase of telepathy and pulseaudio as Maemo, it will be broken there too. Nokia and Collabora need to get their act together to get a working sip on N900/Meego devices.

should I buy a N900 or wait?
 

should I buy a N900 or wait for the new N9?
There's several things that make me not buy it now. For example bluetooth 3.0 is a big issue for me since I use a lot my phone as a modem; bluetooth 2.0 is very limited (3Mbp/s).
The other thing of course is the N9 appearance. If it would be on sale today probably I would buy it now. I feel like buying a N900 now is like wasting money because a new generation will appear...
For me N9 as only 3 inconvenients, not having IRDA, available now and the eventual price.

Re: should I buy a N900 or wait?
 

There is an announcement within the next 2 weeks by Nokia which is expected to outline the direction for the company. I would wait for that before deciding anything.

The N9 may or may not be announced then. Even if it is it could be months before it is available to buy. For example the N900 was about 2-3 months, and the N8 at least 6. The E7 is still not available despite being announced.

all depends what you want from a device. The N900 has decent community support, but is expected to be ignored. If it'll do what you want and you can get it at a decent price, then it may do. Alternatively the N8 may be a good alternative. The hardware is great, and although it is symbian, it will be getting a number of updates, and a UI refresh is expected later this year.

If I had to replace my N900 today it would be a hard choice between a N900 and a N8.

Re: should I buy a N900 or wait?
 

Wait until MWC

Re: should I buy a N900 or wait?
 

There will always be something new around the corner.

First you have to wait for the N9 to be announced.
Then you have to wait for it to actually ship.
Then you have to beta test the new device & OS, and wait for developers to write software and bug fixes.
And, for all of that, you pay a premium for being a early adopter and going along on the mystery roller-coaster ride.

OR
you could get the the N900
available right now
at an extremely attractive price
a great device, with most of the bugs ironed out and works really well
lots of great stable software
you know exactly what you are getting (and if there is any key feature or application you really need that is missing)

Could you use the N900 as a wi-fi hotspot, or do you really need to connect to the internet through bluetooth?

I only bought my N900 a few months ago and am very happy having waited for software, bug fixes and discount pricing (evening knowing that it is the end of the road of Maemo - it'll give me time to sit on the fence and see how 1st gen Meego devices turn out before deciding whether I'll hop in at the start or wait for 2nd gen (more likely for me)).

Re: should I buy a N900 or wait?
 

I'd wait till MWC

Re: should I buy a N900 or wait?
 

I known N900 is a great device. That's not the problem.

I'll wait till MWC.

and yeah the wifi had hoc network is a great idea... but battery life is a problem.
and something new around the corner it's not true... N900 was launched in November 2009. waiting a couple months seams reasonable but I'm worried about the possible N9. I really want meego and such... Do you really think the N9 can be a N900 sucessor?

Currently I've an E71 and a N95.

Re: should I buy a N900 or wait?
 

The N900 was step 4 out of a 5 step program. Those of us who have been here before it came out knew what to expect. MeeGo is step 5. I got my N900 18 months ago. It's gotten better with age. If you know all the device's limitations and still want it, go ahead. If I lost my N900 tomorrow, I would buy it again, but only at a very low price.

Re: should I buy a N900 or wait?
 

Wait!

Ok, now go buy a N900 :D

Re: should I buy a N900 or wait?
 

i got my N900 as late as 2mo ago, and i was having the same internal dogfight, to N900 or to wait E7 or N9.

I am very pleased with my decicion to N900, i love this device and all the open possiblities with it. To me the N900 is a business-phone (make sure your company allows non-provisionable devices, if Mfe needed). to me the N900 does everything i need: business-use, calender, communication, multimedia, navigation, camera, storage, etc and it satisfies my hidden nerd letting me configure it.

if i waited E7, i would still be waiting, and it would have been uninteresting device comparing to this, with less pixels, mhz (clocked) and memory.

in ICT, there will always be a better device just around the corner.

Re: Buy a N900 now or wait for the Harmattan / MeeGo device?
 

The thread "should I buy a N900 or wait?" (9 posts) has been merged into this thread.

Should I purchase a Nokia N900?
 

Hello,

I am currently in the market for a netbook which I would use solely for taking notes for my college classes. I currently own a high-end, Ubuntu-powered desktop, and a Nexus one running on T-Mobile. While considering my options, I thought of the Nokia N900 device. It would be very appealing to have a fully capable, 3G cell phone with the power and versatility of a netbook. While it might be awkward to use it as a regular phone, the kickstand design would be perfect for quickly placing it on a desk to type notes with a small Bluetooth keyboard (yes, I know it includes a physical keyboard, but I don't see myself using it for up to three hours at a time). And, an iPad would be too bulky and unnecessary for my needs. At first glance, this seems like the perfect solution. However, I do have some concerns.

The N900 is an amazing piece of hardware (FM transmitter and receiver, very high quality front and back facing cameras, a powerful ARM processor, and a full operating system based on Debian GNU/Linux with Skype video calling and Adobe flash support out of the box) however, certain aspects of it are dated (4G phones with dual core processors are coming soon), and the lack of a capacitive interface. Also, as noted on Wikipedia :

"It was announced in May 2010 that the Nokia N900 will be the last mobile communication device running the Maemo 5 operating system, which will be replaced by MeeGo. Nokia will continue to support the N900 with updates when necessary.[79]

While transition to the succeeding MeeGo operating system is possible, this is mainly of interest to developers rather than consumers, as it not officially supported by Nokia.[39][79] There has been some interest within the user community in working on backporting MeeGo developments to Maemo for the N900, and this places it as being an interesting device for people within the wider Open Source community more than consumers.[79]

A download of the MeeGo operating system is available, but not officially supported by Nokia.[39][80] MeeGo will succeed Maemo for new devices."

I think the issue that concerns me the most is "Nokia will continue to support the N900 with updates when necessary [emphasis mine]" I read this as meaning "They will provide security updates, but no new features". Also, Nokia is no longer selling the device directly from it's USA web store; however, it is still being sold on Amazon and NewEgg. Is it still being manufactured, or are these retailers selling the last of their stock? I realize that Maemo development could continue with the open source community when official development finally does cease, but the lack of official updates (particularly security updates) is what has left me frustrated with my current phone, and smart phones in general. when I pay $xxx for a device, I expect the manufacturer to provide at minimum, prompt security updates for at least two years after the device is no longer manufactured. A customer shouldn't have to rely on an open source community for that (though I am grateful that they provide this service). At least I'd have the option of using MeeGo if this occurs.

I've read some about the N9. MeeGo does not look like a bad OS. I'll take a full-featured Linux distribution over a watered down mobile operating system any day. However, there is speculation as to if/when the N9 (the next-generation of Nokia tablet?) will be released. Has there been any official news on this front?

The bottom line: I need to purchase something within the next two months. I would hate to spend $350 on a device, just to have it become outdated by a next-generation device from the same manufacturer in the near future. although, I suppose I could mitigate this risk by purchasing a used N900 on eBay. However, I am particularly leery of buying a used device which could potentially have been used for years, especially with respect to battery life.

Any insight would be appreciated. I realize I'm speaking to a biased audience, but for the reasons mentioned above, I like the idea of having a all-purpose device running a full Linux distribution. I could just purchase a netbook, but it seems like a waste of hardware and money to use it for such a simple task. I should also note that I'm incapable of using a traditional writing tool due to a disability. So, what would you suggest?

Re: Should I purchase a Nokia N900?
 

An essay like this needs a citation.

Re: Should I purchase a Nokia N900?
 

short answer: yes

Re: Should I purchase a Nokia N900?
 

shorter answer: no

Re: Should I purchase a Nokia N900?
 

lol. the n900 is something you'll love or your hate, you really need to use it for a week or so to see what it's about.

Re: Should I purchase a Nokia N900?
 

>>I am currently in the market for a netbook which I would use solely for taking notes for my college classes.<<

If you plan to use it "solely" for taking notes, why don't you just get a regular 10" netbook, instead of a 3.5" tablet?

Re: Should I purchase a Nokia N900?
 

capacitive touchscreen is not an issue as the n900 has the best resisitive screen out there.

there are other devices out there, but none quite match the n900 still. it is still a good device and if you can find one second hand or new discounted it would be a good buy.

there is a strong possibility that the N900 sucessor will be announced at the end of next week. even if it is it will probably not hit the shelves for at least a couple of months.

the n900 is still a unique device and will be a relevant device which will be well supported by the community for a long time to come.

Re: Should I purchase a Nokia N900?
 

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:P

I was leaning this way myself. However, I will probably wait For the N900 at this point. I'd like to purchase a device soon, but I can wait until the next academic year. I use a LiveScribe pen to allow another student to take notes for me. I would like to cut down on the number of device and my dependence on other students. So, I'll wait until the next academic year at the latest.

Care to elaborate?

As I mentioned above, I am trying to carry less, having a device which could serve 99% of my mobile computing needs is better than a not-much-more-powerful netbook which would take up more space.

Thank you! Your post was very helpful. Depending on the release dates, feature set, and price point, I may very well purchase the N900 successor. I hope that Nokia will stick with ARM rather than an Intel chipset. From what I've read, ARM still wins out when comparing performance vs power usage.

On another note, how does MeeGo compare to Maemo from a feature and development set? Does it have a strong development community yet?

Re: Should I purchase a Nokia N900?
 

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P.S. Sorry for the offtopic

Re: Buy a N900 now or wait for the Harmattan / MeeGo device?
 

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Re: Should I purchase a Nokia N900?
 

Hmm. The n900 is perfect as a regular phone (not awkward at all!), but is somewhat awkward for simply taking notes. I love my n900, and I do take notes with it, but mainly in situations where carrying a large piece of electronics is too cumbersome. I also have a second-hand HP netbook, and let me tell you the HP has an unbelievably comfortable keyboard for such a small device.

For taking notes in a classroom, honestly, a decent netbook will serve you better (and be much less expensive) than any of the current handheld devices out there.