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Re: Why does Nokia keep selling the N900 as a phone?

I'm actually glad I don't have the SIM Menu... yes I've seen it on my SIM(even on the contract one). But it never had a single usable thing but could never get rid of it. Atleast now I don't have some pointelss crap around.

Re: Why does Nokia keep selling the N900 as a phone?

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Originally Posted by Fargus (Post 523737)

A lot of phones use melodic ringtones too but it is absolutely nothing to do with the GSM standard. It has as much to do with GSM as the colour of the case.

If you don't know, ask.

SIM application toolkit is mandatory for ME, as described in GSM REF 11.14.

Re: Why does Nokia keep selling the N900 as a phone?

what are we missing by not having access to sim card menus??

I think the last time I navigated the menus in a sim was when i had the Sony z5 (damm i miss that phone)

Im on Vodafone UK, what am i missing out on then??

Re: Why does Nokia keep selling the N900 as a phone?

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Originally Posted by etuoyo (Post 523761)

Okay on a serious note let me give you a usercase to show how bad the phone element can be. In Nigeria there are no free call or text contract packages. You just buy top up, load it on your phone and you are good to go. You dial * then your pin number and then # at the end.

Well I went there for three weeks. I bought credit scratched the card typed in what I need to load the credit and find out that the N900 can't load the credit. So what do I have to do for those three weeks:

I have to switch off my phone and take out my battery, then remove my sim card. I then have to ask someone else to do the same on their phone. I then put my sim card into their phone, replace the battery and then switch on the phone. Then I top up. Then I switch off the phone, take out the battery, take out the sim card and hand over the phone to the kind fellow that let me use his phone. I then put my sim card back in my N900, replace my sim and put on the phone.

Thanks Nokia.

This is to do with the lack of USSD support, not sim menus.

Re: Why does Nokia keep selling the N900 as a phone?

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Originally Posted by Matan (Post 523798)

If you don't know, ask.

SIM application toolkit is mandatory for ME, as described in GSM REF 11.14.

I can see mention of the support but notng that states it is mandatory. thanks for the pointer though, education is always welcome. can you point me to the section on which parts are mandatory? All I can find is mention that the ME initiates the requests to the SIM for functionality that the ME understands.

Re: Why does Nokia keep selling the N900 as a phone?

Its been 3 months since I got the n900 and in my opinion, its really a half baked product - I just tried taking a video and the OS just slowed to a crawl not to talk of audio that stutters like crazy; even my cheap sony phone is better at audio than this brick. Only Nokia can get away with launching such a beta product but for how long?. I only got it because of the philosophy of openness behind it so no regrets. Dont buy a Nokia phone if you want an out of box experience - try Sony, Apple or even HTC for that.

Re: Why does Nokia keep selling the N900 as a phone?

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Originally Posted by Fargus (Post 523866)

This is to do with the lack of USSD support, not sim menus.

Yes I know that. I was pointing how incomplete the N900's phone funtions are.

Re: Why does Nokia keep selling the N900 as a phone?

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Originally Posted by Enyibinakata (Post 523913)

my cheap sony phone is better at audio than this brick.

Your cheap Sony phone is probably running an extremely closed RTOS and has few functions aside from what's available in the UI as it stands. I've had mine stutter occasionally (mostly during high CPU usage) but by and large, I'll tolerate that in exchange for capability that would otherwise be completely unavailable to me.

Re: Why does Nokia keep selling the N900 as a phone?

why dont you just get a different phone?

Re: Why does Nokia keep selling the N900 as a phone?

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Originally Posted by mastac (Post 523948)

why dont you just get a different phone?

Get another N900!