Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 

All references have been the application framework and QT which we all know about which you can say is part of Meego, but isn't the core OS or services of Meego. Listen again to what he says at 18:14-18:52 where the specific question about the N900 is raised not just alluded to and he says that "going forward" new apps (QT) will be forward compatible.

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 

@maxximuscool
you are totally right man ! i mean what a disappiontment it will be for those waiting for meego if they dont get it ! but at the same time it will be great for those who are not expecting it to get it ! its really best to enjoy the moment as it is now and leave the future for the future !

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 

well the future is meego os for n900

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 

I don't think you should expect Meego on N900, and I don't think it matters much. What matters is that it will be pretty easy to write apps that work on both Maemo 5 and Meego.

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 

I think we have a better chance of MeeGo than Harmattan.

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 

Let's say Maemo 5 would have been the last OS ever build for phones. Everyone would have been happy with their N900 untill the keyboard would not show any letters anymore.

But as soon as someone talks about MeeGo everybody thinks they have a right to a new OS!

To me it like when I got married. It's for bether and worse and let me tell you the longer you are married the better it gets.

The N900 has many time been referred as "my baby" maybe you should start thinking about it as "my wife".

And just because there are younger models around does not make your wife less attraktive ;-)

So enjoy your N900. Stop the could have, would have, should have. You made a decition to buy the phone based on what it delivers.

If you have bought the phone on what it might deliver you were speculating and like on wall street you took a risk.

I am very happy with my N900 - AND THATS A FACT!

Regards Markus

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 

No, I think you are wrong about this. As long as Nokia keeps supporting the old OS and make it solid after a couple years then I am a loyal happy customer. Nokia has been too quickly to drop supporting; i.e. N810 after 2 years?

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 

Aren't they the same?? I thought Maemo 6 is Meego..

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 

No... Maemo 6 will be compatible with MeeGo.. but it is not MeeGo.

IIRC.. Maemo 6 will still use Deb.. MeeGo uses RPM.

They've already done too much work on Harmattan to stop and start over.. so if my understanding is accurate - they are merely working to make sure Harmattan is compatible with MeeGo at an API level.

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 

there will be one or both will be availiable on the nokia n900 the videos is in fact saying that it will be getting meego os
maemo 6 dont know???????

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 

AFAIK: Nokia has neither "confirmed nor denied" the availability of either for the N900.

To me that's a denial. However, I have hopes for MeeGo by the community... assuming it's as open as we hope.

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 

Yup, to me they're either just staying mum for neferious purposes (getting more N900 sales) or they're just splitting development.

E.g. 3/4th of Maemo team work on the Meego and next Maemo/Meego device while 1/4th, try to fix Maemo 5 bugs and get Meego working on it when you have time.

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 

just stop exaggerating already guys. MeeGo won't come any time soon so this is it. For who ever waiting and hoping to get it might end up very disappointing and for who doesn't give a SHIII* will not give a whore about it, when ever, what ever.!!

End of story.

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 

Nokia has confirmed both Maego6 and Meego for the n900. As a community release.

Note: Nokia has stated Maego6 is Meego - same thing. Naming from Nokia to be decided.

Nokia also has confirmed current policy is there will be no Nokia supported version.

Leaving the door open on a change of policy suggests there are some in Nokia pushing for such a change, however unlike the earlier statements which are clear, reading anything into the possibility of a change is guesswork.

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 

Community Release = Let the community work for free so we do not have to pay for it or support it in a timely manner.

For small apps/hacks/fixes its fine, but for major apps (i.e. proper sat nav) that will take ages if it even happens, so forget it unless the n900 is just a toy (which is fine for some users) to you.

The Nokia attitude taken here is clear - do least as possible for the lowest cost for the n900 at this point.

Makes sense for them as a company... in the short term

Can read Ari Jaanski's blog comments on the n900

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?bl...57428363981643

Everyone just wants a clear answer on Meego, which Ari does not want to give. Everyone is just concerned about future support/apps.

There are many (and will be more) pissed off customers. This ambiguity (rightfully or wrongfully) has made things 100X worse.

I am not a anti Nokia troll, but Nokia's silence on these points is very bad. I would respect them more and consider buying future Nokia products if they would just BITE THE BULLET and COME OUT and state the obvious - no meego for n900.

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 

There is a statement. effectively 'NO NEW OS FROM NOKIA ON ANY PHONE, PERIOD'. Clear and simple. Leaving the door open on this policy changing to me suggests someone, possibly even Ari, is fighting to change the policy. Trying to get a clearer answer than we have already, can only mean stopping anyone in Nokia lobbying for a change.

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 

I read this as: if there is interest in the community, the community will do it.
But this say's nothing about support from Nokia.

I have had my phones for an average of 3 years each.
This will be my most expensive phone yet.
I am hoping it will be able to fulfill all my requirements (many I know it already will) of a mobile-phone/computer.

I will not be looking to upgrade the OS if it works as expected.
For the next 3 years I am only hoping it will be stable, and any new application coming out in this time, I expect it to work on this device.

If all is not as I expected - I will be miserable, unhappy and discouraging other consumers to use it.
Just because it has a console, doesn't put a smile on my face the 100'th time around.

In this context for Nokia the OS (on any device) should be such that it will allow me to use as many applications ("out of the box") as possible. And for developers it should be such as to make it as easy as possible to make applicaions for the most possible devices.

With a unified, stable OS it is all possible.

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 

Mind you... I'm a bit slow. In fact, I'm quite sure the members here already know that about me.

So the "official word" (please notice the quotes) is that MeeGo/Maemo 6 will be a community delivered OS, much like Mer/Fremantle was to be delivered some time ago and is still pending?

Not a swipe at STKeeps at all. Just a generic question so this weary mind can fully understand if that's what is really going on with the N900 and the N810.

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 

As much as I love my n900... I should have bought the Droid or waited for a good snapdragon or a9 android phone with physical keyboard...
The Maemo5 sandbox like experience is great but god dammit Nokia should SUPPORT the phone for future operating systems and FINISH Maemo5's missing features (flash 10 anyone?)... Them stating the community will finish it is absolutely ********. The community should be given an opportunity to IMPROVE and bring new ideas/concepts/programs to the game... Not finish the job of a COMPANY. A Community should create and improve... Not complete and finish...

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 

There is no official word yet. You can expect to hear it from someone official like Peter or Ari. Anything else is just a rumor.

The only thing we know is official is that IF Nokia chooses not to bring Meego to the N900 then the community will port it themselves.

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 

Man, there are some pi**ed off Nokia customers commenting on Ari's blog. Looks like a PR nightmare for Nokia.

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 

It's a timing and roadmap issue.

It's like the 80's BETAMAX/VHS tape issue - nobody want's to be stuck with a BETAMAX tape!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Videotape_format_war

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 

Just look at the meego.com site.
What do you see on the very first page, left to the "Welcome to MeeGo!" caption?

A Nokia N900? What a coincidence!
I think that it speaks for itself.

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 

We hope :o

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 

They do support n900, how hard is that to understand.

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 

Enough is enough of this MotherF***ing MeeGo on this MotherF***ing thread lol.. Samuel Jackson!! Got to love that line! :D

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 

after sending an email to nokia USA about feeling my disappointment of announcing meego a couple of months of release of maemo5 in stores(with the n900 ofc), i got this reply:

means that it wont come officially to N900 for me..but anyway..even if other phone goes live soon with meego, n900 will be the 2nd best phone on planet!(lolz-i just love this phone)

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 

That is very naive mate. If this is true they would have annouced it with Meego for the big bang approach.

Instead, the first annouced meego device is an LG device, NOT a Nokia device - if what you say is true, then that is a marketing screwup of the highest order.

seriously I dont get it - given that their competitors such as Google and Apple do do new OS on prior phones, why doesnt Nokia do it ? Given how "big" Meego is, is it THAT expensive to port at least the initial version or so (so there is at least 1 year or so of support) to n900 ?

Can they not understand that its not always the technology that counts, but that people pay mucho $$$ and sometimes are emotionally invested in their devices and do not want to be left behind.

If not, they Nokia must be run by a pointy haired boss like those dilbert cartoons.

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 

I'm not trying to defend the approach, but please think about it a little more.

Google's and Apple's (and most of the manufacturers') "new" OSs are just incremental updates. They usually don't have any breaking changes on the UI and the basic operation of their devices. Even if you look at Windows Mobile 6.1 -> 6.5 for HTC and Samsung, they just update the OS under the hood, their UIs (Sense and TouchWiz) remain exactly the same.

Now there are many users who buy a device such as the N900. However, only the minority of them even cares about updates or the OS (perhaps less than 10% of the buyers?), the rest are just using it like a regular phone or tablet, and these will never come to this forum.

Now imagine if MeeGo appears for the N900: the average user (who doesn't know what is a software update and why is it good anyway) just hits the "update" button and in a blink of an eye the entire UI and everything changes. S/he'll have to learn to use the device again, and s/he won't understand why. (Add to that the fact that even the user manual can't help them out.)

Although, even if not on an "official" update, I think we'll see an N900 section on meego.com's download site from which the users who care can download and install it. I'm sure of it.

The only announcement that remains: "It won't void your warranty." This way they would ensure that everyone who cares can upgrade and remain safe.

Anyways, I hope for the best. (And I'm going to buy an N900 soon. :))

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 

If no MeeGo is released for the N900, then somebody in the Nokia department is gonna hear it LOUD from me!! You can count on it! I will not accept being butf***ed by Nokia for my hard earned cash! And I will NEVER EVER again touch a Nokia handset if this happens!

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 

I got the impression that MeeGo doesn't actualy exist yet as a completed product, it is early days, even the LG (annouced as the first Meego product) will not be a true implementation of MeeGo, in the same way that Meamo 6 will not be a true implementation of Meego................I think that we are a long way off from there actually being a true MeeGo device about, probably minimum of a year???

If this is the case, why is it so important for the N900 to get it, phones are generally changed quite frequently, and it may be considered that the N900 is 'out of date' when the true MeeGo is released. I suspect that Nokia haven't committed to whether there will be an implementation of MeeGo on the N900 as it isn't really known when this new OS will actually be released

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 

The reason is that because Nokia are now focused on MeeGo, they don't give a crap about maemo 5. Regardless I will probably get a MeeGo handset when they do hit the market, but whether or not it's a Nokia handset depends on how Nokia treat the N900.

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 

Oh come on, it's not like your N900 is going to suddenly cease functioning when MeeGo devices start appearing. If you had bought a device from any other vendor you'd be screwed within a year or less, the only exception being Apple (but you have no real control at all with them, and when your iPhone model is finally dropped you're SOL.)

Mer and MeeGo are being run as community projects, and if Nokia will work as hard to help Mer get drivers for their hardware despite not even producing the device anymore then I expect that equal levels of support will be available for the N900 as the community ports MeeGo to the device.

Of course, you can sit in your chair and demand the world from Nokia, or you can help the community and Nokia provide a future for your device well past the point where any other manufacturer would ignore your e-mails entirely.

I know, they give so little a crap there's no PR1.2 release, with even more down the line planned. All I see is whiners who seem to insist that Nokia has already dropped support for the N900, demanding an OS that was just announced.

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 

Please tell me how you can make it LOUD?

Did you buy any N810? I bought more than 2 and still keep 2 but I am skipping the N900 or buy it when price drops deeply. It will happen because that was the case for the N810. I really don't care for any new OS but I do care for supporting from Nokia.

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 

Guys, If Nokia won't port MeeGo to N900 then Just install NooGo on your N900 yourself. How hard can NooGo be? lol.. I don't think N900 will get Red Ring of Death or YLOD when no MeeGo.

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 

>> you had bought a device from any other vendor you'd be screwed within a year or less, the only exception being Apple (but you have no real control at all with them, and when your iPhone model is finally dropped you're SOL.)

Errr look at Android.

As for n900 community support - thats for small fixes and minor apps, which are fine by me.

Its the MAJOR apps that the community wont be able to provide (ovi maps and sat nav anyone?) in a complete state. If you read ari's blog (its buried in the comments for the entry when he is on a plane), he has already confirmed that n900 will NOT get what symbian got in terms of the ovi suite sat nav - how long do you think it will take the community to build a substitution ? if ever ?

if you have an andriod/apple phone, you will have no such fear. Both goog and apple are doing everything they can to hold/gain customers. Major apps like this are much more likely to exist.

Nokia ? It cant even get its internal marketing timelines straight.

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 

About 2-4 years and then it´s used only by couple of hard geeks who make amazing things with their device. Meantime big group of potential customers go somewhere else because majority of customer want results right now not in near misty future which is filled with questions.

Forks will make things democratic and nice but it doesn't help a lot doing business and money. Open source is nice ADDITION but it will not alone make things successful. To make device successful you have to LEAD and show way by making core OS as good as possible.

Re: MeeGo... a Cold Bullet to the maemo 5 Community?
 

I don't know. If N900 is really a flagship device, why don't they offer us (users) all they have offered to, let's say N97 users, like OVI maps with voice guidance, some extra features... and why Nokia doesn't reject the roomers on this forum and elsewhere?

It would mean a lot to all of us who already use N900 and it would get them new users.

Re: MeeGo... a Cold Bullet to the maemo 5 Community?
 

I was under that same impression too, but it's now clearly not a flagship device. Quite what exactly it is remains a mystery, imo more like a proof of concept that found itself going mainstream.

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 

i really hope this post is accurate

Source:
http://www.nokian900applications.com...of-nokia-n900/



Meego, the future of Nokia N900


We already know what will the agreement between Nokia and Intel announced in the MWC 2010. MeeGo will be the operating system that will include in the Nokia N900, in addition to many other terminals and devices.








Meego is an open source project Linux, join Maemo and Moblin, what would be Maemo 6. But it will not be an operating system only to terminals Nokia, will be open to any terminal or hardware, you can access applications that are launched to Ovi Store. Can support multiple architectures and combine multitasking and multimedia.



MeeGo will be available for many users in the second quarter of 2010. Nokia and Intel open the door to a huge amount of possibilitiesfor all users of advanced mobile devices. The future is already here.