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bsving 2010-02-20 09:11

Re: Maemo 6 and/or MeeGo on N900: Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
 
Moot points, all of them. When Nokia release their brand new and funky N950 (or whatever) with Maemo 6, I expect 99% of us will purchase one and forget about the N900.

Viny 2010-02-20 09:50

Re: Maemo 6 and/or MeeGo on N900: Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
 
i know i wont be purchasing one, 600 bucks for a new phone/tablet is alot man xD

attila77 2010-02-20 09:59

Re: Maemo 6 and/or MeeGo on N900: Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 538094)
Okay, Listen very carefully I shall say this only once.

An excellent post, with many very good point, some already known, some clarified, but sadly, I don't think it's what the 'will it run on my...' (Drink!) crowd can (or even wants to) understand. As we have seen, these people want a yes/no answer and, worse yet, they expect it from Nokia. It's total tunnel vision, the technical, organizational, and any other differences are not important, they yet to grasp what proper Open software means and how it can impact their existing device's present and future abilities (and in light of that what they should REALLY be fighting for). That said, I applaud the 'can do' approach and devotion of many community platform developers, especially you, for the work on Maemo (=Mer), and hopefully MeeGo so we can bring as much of these as possible to our past, present and future devices, and the community at large. Thank you.

Espen 2010-02-20 10:14

Re: Maemo 6 and/or MeeGo on N900: Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 538103)
lol too long man.. Too much to read

Could it be that your brain has become too short, if you cant read as short a text as this well argued message?

pyromaniac 2010-02-20 10:18

Re: Maemo 6 and/or MeeGo on N900: Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
 
finally .. a positive outlook :) ..

ggroen 2010-02-20 10:50

Re: Maemo 6 and/or MeeGo on N900: Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 538094)
I work on bringing Maemo 5.0 to Nokia N800, N810(W).

I think Maemo 5.0 on N8X0 would indeed proof your point! Succes on that!

Besides that, you convinced me already. I trust there will be a lot of other community members / developers giving this an effort to make our N900 even better.
And no, my N900 isn't broken at all, I'm enjoying it big time!

davedap 2010-02-20 10:55

Re: Maemo 6 and/or MeeGo on N900: Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
 
made me feel a lots better and more positive this morning many thx

omeriko9 2010-02-20 10:55

Re: Maemo 6 and/or MeeGo on N900: Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 538114)
could someone sum it. :)

Basically it says "Don't worry, be happy :)"

mikec 2010-02-20 12:08

Re: Maemo 6 and/or MeeGo on N900: Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
 
My personal belief is that the situation is even BETTER than how stskeeps has itemised.

Not only should you not worry, but be prepared for a new age of choice, increased innovation, standardization, and use-ability.

Choice

This is very difficult for people that don't run a Linux desktop to understand, so perhaps a little explanations is in order.

1. I have a PC. I don't rely on Microsoft or Apple to give me operating system updates.
2. I can run a range of Linux variants on my PC. There are 100s of variants, but lets take the two that are most similar in approach to MeeGo as examples, Namely Redhat Linux and Novell SuSE.

3. I use these as examples not because they happen to use RPMs for software distribution containers, but because they are SOLD and supported by professional companies that need to make money to stay alive. You could lump Ubuntu here , but I digress.

4.Both Red Hat and Novell have community driven versions of their flagship operating systems, called Fedora, and Open SuSE respectively.

5.I can choose to use the professional versions from both Redhat and Novell, which have greater stability, and typically are paid for box sets with annual support charges (thats how they make their money) but as a user I know when I place a support call to them they will look into it and provide patches and help trouble shoot problems. Downside though is these version typically get less advanced features, less updates.

Or I can choose to use Fedora or Open SuSE. They have latest features, bleeding edge functions and get very frequent updates at no cost to me and are free to download. They have thriving communities, lots of informal help, and shed loads of applications.

no doubt many variants of MeeGo will materialze as we have already seen in Moblin. And it will put more pressure on the ARM vendors to release drivers for MeeGo.


Increased innovation


Meego now has the resources to become mainstream and upstream distribution. It already has downstream variants with major support from all three of the major Linux vendors.

-Novell SuSE Moblin will become MeeGo
-Fedora Mini a Moblin based distro will become MeeGo
-Ubuntu Remix will become MeeGo

and now Maemo will become MeeGo, and I assume Mer will become “Open MeeGo”.

With so much “wood behind the same arrow” innovation will accelerate

Standardization

The biggest complaints from old Tablet owners is Nokia's constant change of the base OS. But today we find that MeeGo is now owned by the Linux Foundation, Keepers of the unification effort of Linux called the Linux Standards Base LSB. Many of the Linux wars like Gnome vs KDE, composite managers, Sound API's, Media containers etc etc have all pretty much settled down. Nokia has been brought into the Mainstream, and is now part of Mainstream that it will be less able to make “dumb decisions” on its own. There will be more eyeballs and more interested parties in making sure that the platform is a success for its Developers and users.

Useability

Imagine Qt is the standard development tookit for MeeGo. Imagine the productivity gains across MeeGo,Symbian,Linux etc. More cosistant UI's across not just he OS but the applications as well.

I believe that our N900's will have a longer and more exciting life with Meego than without.

Bring on the MeeGo Nokia Booklet. :D

ysss 2010-02-20 12:14

Re: Maemo 6 and/or MeeGo on N900: Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
 
I think those that want to fully depend on community support would appreciate a gesture by Nokia if they open source all the hardware drivers for N900 :)


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