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ok..i managed to get it to work..however,

i didn't get any the echo string such as

"Injection is already enabled ;)"
"Disconnect from wifi first :p"
"Injection is enabled ;)"
"Injection is already enabled ;)"
"Injection disabled ;)"

whenever i run the script..it appears,and then just vanishes without displaying any messages like the above

did yours display the message?

EDITED : nevermind..as long as i got the injection working, its fine for me.. :D:D

however, whenever i try to start GrimWepa, neopwn closes and didn't load GrimWepa..

each time i tap Neopwn --> Attack Vectors --> GrimWepa --> Launch --> Proceed (Yes) , then nothing happen..control panel closes, neopwn shell closes, but GrimWepa does not load...

what might have happened here?

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Hello. Anyway to check if the neopwn kernel is loaded? I booted from #2 in multiboot which is titans kernel and it won't boot it said the kernel files weren't there. So I tried #1 and did it again which is the omap1 kernel. Does titan work with neopwn?

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GrimWepa doesnt not load for me either.

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if you were able to find the link can you plz share it with me?

okee, the link to w00t.tar.gz and Get_It Files.tar.gz is in this post:
http://www.phonesfera.com/1-vf59-vt2099.html

you need to be registered on the forum and make a post in that thread.

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It's missing a java library file, install icedtea6 in your mameo environment and copy the file into your neopwn mount in the proper path or........grab the grimwepa.jar file specifically built for the n900 and install icedtea6 insmod the injection modules and just launch from CLI

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will installing grimwepa.jar solve the prob?

for icedtea6, do i have to type "apt-get install icedtea6", right?

can you be a little bit more specific about it?sorry though.. :confused::confused::(:(

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Can I load the modules kernel compat.ko, rfkill_backport.ko, cfg80211.ko, mac80211.ko, wl1251.ko, wl1251_spi.ko with version omap1 or kernel-power37?
Which is the md5sum of these original modules?

Thank you.

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Watch out there.

Apparently there have been some legal threats against m.o regarding some copyright issues; whatever the cause, the t.m.o mod-crew is death on w4r3z-linkage these days.

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For icedtea6 you can find it in app-manager or this link:

http://maemo.org/downloads/product/Maemo5/icedtea6/

The install is 109MB so make sure you are settled for the download.

Then from console chroot into your /.neopwn mount, as root or with sudo type grimwepa....take notice of the libraries it complains about missing and copy them where it expects to find them. That's how I got it running.
then you can use the control panel to launch it without issue.

EDIT: the libs it complains about missing are libgif.so.4, when you copy this over you'll have to copy libgif.so.4.1.6 as it is symbolically linked to it.

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thx mate! managed to get it to work... =) appreciate your help..thx thx thx :D

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right !
now GPLed components are w4r3z !
neopwn simply build upon GPLed components , and just doesn't share the source .
first the beta went private , which is fine ,I don't mind if he wants to get paid, but even people who paid didn't get the source of the binaries , and there is no where mentioned to get them .
this is required by the GPL license , If you distribute GPLed binaries , you have to accompany them with the source , or mention where to get the source .
If he wants to maintain a profit , fine , don't make the source publicly available , but people who paid you for the beta , and got the binaries from you , have the legal right to get the source code too.

If someone is doing something wrong here it's neopwn crew, and should be reported to FSF .

here :
Telephone: +1-617-542-5942
Fax: +1-617-542-2652

and http://www.fsf.org/about/contact/email , select gpl compliance lab ..

if many people complain , they may do something !

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no matter what i try, grimwepa can not success send fake authentication and i even try in chroot, still no success, i checked and i got around 93% injection successfull, im testing on my WEP, with open connection.

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On the one hand, I would really like it if people didn't pirate the current neopwn, for obvious reasons (having the source is much better, namely for the injection driver), and we're more likely to get it if the current beta isn't flying around pirated. I would also not like to screw with the guy who made neopwn - not because of any fear of reprisal, but because for all that we might disagree with him, he's still a person who obviously cares about the project in his own, sorta-Steve-Jobsian way. He has feelings too. So I'd rather given him the chance to open source stuff on his own time, instead of trying to bring a legal hammer on him. But at the same time, if months - a year passes and there's no word on a release...

Speaking of which, now that UBoot (and back when bootmenu/multiboot came out), doesn't that solve his main problem of having a user-friendly, safe way of installing the thing? Is there any real roadblocks, or is it just about the money for the costs incurred commissioning the making of the driver now?

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Having the source or at least a new kernel+modules with pr13 patches would be cool.

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I may seem evil , but I would like to see this in court soon , and not wait for a year, specially after he removed the "public beta coming soon" from his website , and by public beta I assume the source code would have accompanied the release , public binary distribution without source is even worse .

if you bought the private beta from neopwn and didn't get the source , please report this to the fsf .

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I can see why people are getting really annoyed/frustated with this project... i been for a while thinking to myself this project has had the opposite effect which was mean to (I wish my thinking was different as this guy looks as if he is working extremely hard to get this project finished and the tools ported)... in fact I'm quite sure many here would have helped ported some of the individuals tools/components.... similar to ongoing nitdroid project where a hand full of people with right skills/knowledge are helping with the project by braking down what truly is a complex project into small manageable tasks... similar to these:
http://wiki.nitdroid.com/index.php?title=Devs:ToDO
http://wiki.nitdroid.com/index.php?title=N900

I'm sure, even I could help, even if at least by reporting bugs...

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Agreed/Bump.

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On a side note, is it fine to use with PR1.3?

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Should be. As I understand it, NeoPwn runs either as a chroot or an entirely seperate OS - I suspect chroot because the dualbooting methods weren't around when the beta came out.

The only thing I can imagine is if you're taking some of the modules included in NeoPwn2, copying them to the normal N900 OS, and loading them in the main OS. But I'm pretty sure the only thing you'd use for that would be the wifi driver - and I haven't heard anyone saying that was touched in the PR1.3 update.

Anyway, if I understand chroots, it should all still be fine. I think we would have seen more complaints/comments in this thread if the NeoPwn2 didn't run at all on the N900 after this update.

The only thing is NeoPwn uses an older build of the kernel (or at least when the beta came out it was older - I don't know if NeoPwn's been secretely updating the beta since PR1.3 came out). So when you run NeoPwn you wouldn't have the updates that PR1.3 brought with it effecting the inside-the-chroot stuff - as I understand it. I'm not an expert, so this is more or less an educated guess.

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So, guys... how can I get ahold of this? I don't want to go the illegal route, as in the leaked version, but it says on the homepage that you can no longer purchase it in the shop. I've heard that there will be NO public release, ever - is this true?

I'm willing to cash out and support the project to get this, but there seems to be little information.

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On 7 November 2010 08:18, NeoPwn <info@neopwn.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm sorry but it's unavailable indefinitely.
>
> Regards,
>
> Neopwn
>
> On 11/06/2010 12:34 PM, Kieron wrote:
>>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I am writing to you to ask where I can aquire NeoPwnv2. This is the
>> only method of contact I could find, so I do apologise if I've gone
>> about this incorrectly.
>>
>> Regards
>

I have sourced the image elsewhere and intend on providing a link (or similar) soon.

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Just be careful - NeoPwn's project head has been hostile towards leaks before. (Meanwhile, for me the NeoPwn site is down. I'm hoping it's not from a bunch of you people flooding them with hatemail. That's the one thing that's not good for any possible positive future developments from their end.)

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hey!....i don't understand why the package won't be like a patch for maemo kernel (witch adds injection capability), so we won't need a card to boot from...

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because neopwn didn't release the source code for the modified wlan driver .

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Well, if the site stays down and we get nothing but evasive silence, it might just be time to learn how to use some disassembler/decompiler and work from there....

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I'm hoping he comes forward and releases a source, I think we should give him a chance, I'm sure he's watching this thread, or at least checking it every now and again. I just hope he doesn't disappear, let the project die, keep the source closed, and be a bastard!

Such a shame!

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Agreed. I do think that somewhere in there he still wants to finish this project and release it to the masses. Honestly, I largely blame the initial *****ing for what happened. Yes he should have been more open with the project and yes he could have been less trying-to-do-project-on-his-own, but at least he actually came forth and explained that he had been delayed, and so on. He allowed himself to be a bit hostile in the whole "no one donated/supported" statements, but oh well. That's understandable.

But the massive ***** fest that ensued was pathetically unjustified. It really did come off as a largely 'you owe us this, and you owe it to us now' thing. And it doesn't f'ing matter how partially right they were in some of their claims, such as NeoPwn's lack of communication/collaboration with the community. At the end of the day the vitriolic *****ing being what it was definitely didn't contribute towards developing any sort of desire in him to develop the project further, etc.

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hi

i must say - this neopwn wifi driver is just amazing - with aircrack it really works - my test wep wifi net was cracked within minutes.

it uses power-kernel - and one can use stock aircrack and unload power-kernel wifi stack and load neopwn wifi stack. voila - no dualboot or chroot needed.

sad that one needs to go via google to find the drivers. neopwn team should not be that greedy. its not an iphone community - its maemo.

ciao

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lollergag. I see people who don't have access to it, complaining that they can't get access.

However, I also see some very legitimate concerns about licensing and legality that DO need to be answered and WILL be answered sooner or later.

Please keep in mind, that NeoPwn was never actually SOLD, what you gave was a donation, and that the code, binaries or packages are not being publicly distributed.

Continue bashing now.

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I don't know of anyone who doesn't know how to get access to the leaked versions. I'm sure there are people, who miss the links being posted before they are deleted, but there's PMs for that.

Well, the thing is unless someone bothers to bring a legal challenge against NeoPwnv2 as a violation of the GPL, I don't see the questions being answered. I think he's made himself a lot of room to maneuver. The release is "postponed indefinitely", which can still be re-explained as "there's unresolved problems", no one bought anything, like you said (though him using "beta proceeds" in saying that the donation total doesn't reflect beta proceeds, combined with him having a "store" and a set donate amount to get access to the beta, frankly, is pretty damn similar in function to "buying" that a good enough lawyer in a reasonable enough court should be able to easily win that argument).

But my concern with these legal issues getting answered is that the only angle of attack is arguing that no matter what you call it, it was basically a "purchase" of access to the beta. And unless someone's willing to take that to court, gets a lawyer who feels they can win from that angle, and finds a court that will take the case on those grounds, it's a bit iffy as to whether or not the legal questions regarding licensing/legality will ever get answered.

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You said it right there, purchased ACCESS to the beta. Not purchasing source code, not purchasing binary packages and not paying for licensing.

A donation was made and access to a private closed-doors project was provided. If no more tools, ports, drivers or similar projects are ever publicly announced - you know why.

There's a reason people, me included, have not created [ANNOUNCE] threads for every application port, source mod or hack made to the N900. The community takes it, runs with it - some asshat breaks or doesn't understand it - and the author is left holding the bag.

Sorry, but if you can't figure it out for yourself, you probably have no right in the first place.

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I get what you're saying, but he does have a point - the fact it was purchasable through an online store at a fixed price, etc.

If it really were donationware, you'd be able to donate however much you wished for access.

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It's a closed project. It's a beta. It was privately provided to users. Wanna know the selection process?

1). If you donated, you'd get it.

2). If you were a useful contributor to the project, you'd get it.

3). If you did neither, you'd get it, eventually, for completely free.

This is like some Red Hen **** going on here.

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So whats the status of the project today?

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I guess thanks to the pirating, both the forum pages on neopwn (no, I will not post link) is dead, and the guys not responding to emails.
Thanks a lot for supporting the project, especially to those of you who dosent have a clue to what neopwn even is!

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Yep, and thanks to the I....S who just want a pirated version, and doesnt have the faintest clue to what it even is, the project seems CLOSED at the moment.
Good work you guys, keep it going!

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You should really look up what a 'donation' is.

This was a purchase, not a donation.

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This whole line of discussion doesn't make much sense to me -- first, the GPL makes no distinction among selling, public distribution, or private distribution. Distribution of any sort is subject to the same rules.

Second, recipients of the software, whether buyers or donors, have no standing; the GPL functions under copyright law, and the copyright holder is the only one who can sue.


Funny, though, how our resident neopwn apologist has given up all claims that the software is cleanly licensed for binary-only distribution, and now falls back on the imagined loophole that a private beta is magically exempt from copyright law. I can't imagine a case would be hard to win, if the author of the original driver (a Nokian, IIRC) and the FSF tried it.

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I just filled out a complain. Chose GPL complaince lab. I will let everybody know as soon as I have any news.

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hmm..it seems that neopwn packet injection isn't working with latest power-kernel..user Kieron has confirmed this..

i wonder if there's any workaround to enable packet injection with the latest power-kernel?