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damn.. I've messed up the order and I will get 2.. one 4gb and one 16. ffffuuuu... anyhow shipping was 38 for 4gb and 51 for 16gb. I'm kind of disappointed...

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hey guys, does anyone knoe how long it took to ship this ? are they have them instock ?

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Email them to correct your order since it haven't ship yet they have a contact us link on the site. That should help.

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21 days before they ship.

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Im not sure who determines the shipping costs, ive seen this before with a proper company and the charges on shipping are 38 dollars no matter what the product your buying is

It is still very extortionate

And this is stopping me from buying it, I wouldnt mind paying 5 dollars for shipping (even that is high for something than is less than a centimere square and weighs 0.2g

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http://neopwn.com/release.php

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how much they ship to kuwait ?

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Daaamn, people are lazy in here... :D

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=271

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:P
lol
i will try it

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With these prices I wonder what brand of micro sd cards they using?

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only with buy the micro sd? without?

sorry for my bad english

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maybe kingston?

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I hope them or sandisk.

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Plots thicken as now neopwn is giving refund back and saying they going to open the store again with amazon payment. Cause of they vendors not working out.

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Meh I think you guys are being a bit harsh on the dev guys. Just a bit.

Let them work out their issues until they want your assistance. We need to encourage development and unless you're one of the people who put some money into this, you shouldn't be complaining about delays.

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Boy I'm vary exited for the project if I had money I'd donate. I just can't afford anything.

I hope after it is out of beta they put a Forums, Bug tracker, Brainstorm, and wiki on their website so they can get feed back and develop a community. The way it is now it kind of seems all private and monolithic.

I don't know anything so take my opinion with a grain of salt, but I don't know. . . it seems like they would get more development if they had like a public flowchart of what needs to be done, what has been done, and what is bing worked on right now. That way if someone wanted to help out they could read the list and think "Hay, I'm in the mood to port ettercap...or I'm good with GUI development I think I could handle fixing up the ettercap GUI for the N900"

Or, maybe that kind of thing would make the project to hard to manage and it would never get out of Beta quality.

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Ettercap -G already works.

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It's not 'hildonized'. Same goes for Wireshark. It's full/raw GTK translation and it's complete pain in the neck to use.

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Well they refunded my money. The store is back up thru amazon payments. For 40 USD but thats does not include the memory card just the software. I ordered it, they say download links will be sent out aug 28th. But have to meet the goal of 1350 EUR first.

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I would pay if i could, but i dont wanna get a card just because of neopwn :(

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From the NeoPwn store (emphasis mine):
Since they're referring to it as a patched driver, not a newly written one, it seems like it uses GPLed code from wl12xx; if this is the case, I don't see how a binary release without accompanying source (assuming they don't get 1350EUR by the 28th) is legally possible. I hope I'm just misunderstanding something...

I certainly don't mind people trying to make a buck to recover their development costs, or even to profit beyond that -- but you've gotta do it legally. I had already preordered a microSD, with the assumption that driver source would be included, but at this point I'm not going to repreorder or donate until this legal issue is clarified.

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Very good concern. Hopefully the developer will reply with an answer.

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Maybe they meant a "binary patcheR"?

Supliying a a patcher that either works against a file or memory at runtime would probably be a way to circumvent GPL in this case.

Or maybe don't... just guessing.

Anyway I think it would be cleaner and better in the long run to have the gui as the copyrighted component and all the rest open and maintained by the community.

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I thought I read that once they have gotten 1350EUR they are going to realece it as the final and free product.

Ya, good point about the GPL.

I can't find it now but I read a forums post from a guy who claimed to be the one who wrote the injection patch for neopwn. It went something like....

......Yes injection is possible. I wrote a driver patch for injection but I can't give it to you because I wrote it for the neopwn guys. You'll have to wait for them to release it first......


I think it also stated that the neopwn guys Paid him to write the driver patch. Which is cool

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Support the project!
Help support the free project with a little something
Total to date: $160.00

Please don't support this bs of a project. Its a free project as much as windows is free -.-

Not only that he requires 40$ PER IMAGE to get,but he also wants donations ? :D And he calls it free?!?

Sorry for my anger burst but this is just ridicilous ...

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It's not free as beer.....

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So summing it up:

- First the author promises to release under GPL "shortly before BH".
- After the date arrives, he changes his mind saying "there is no reliable way to install this thing". Therefore, no release. BUT!
- He also tries to lie about promising a release date, removing the announcement from his site, even though many other places had already cached the entry. Even a poster in this forum repeated it here.
- As if it hadn't been enough, he then says that he is now going to *sell* (no GPL release anymore for the moment, but he again promises GPL in the future) this thing together with an SD card (presumably because he's trying to be consistent with his claim about not having a reliable way to install).
- Starts to receive payments for a while, only to suddenly let a lot of people down AGAIN. This time no reason given. BUT!
- He now says he is providing a download link at some point in future (all of the sudden the "unreliable way to install" is not a problem?), IF! he reaches some monetary goal.

is this $(bad word of choice here) for real?

There has to be some respect towards the community. People can't be going around spreading lies to presumably achieve who knows what kind of fraudulent scheme.

What if people made commitments counting on the author's fraudulent promises? (I mean he started to receive MONEY for this thing, their "this is free software" argument does not hold anymore) what if someone bought this hardware counting on being able to install this driver? only to end up being played a fool by this person? of course each one is responsible about their actions, I am just wondering who accounts this guy responsible for his lies?

In my country you know what we say to people like the author?

Get your driver and roll it up, pretty well rolled up, and shove it up your shirt's pocket.

...of course, that is because we are not a "litigious society" like the US, IANAL, but could all of this be suable?...

I mean, someone publishes: "pay me money, I will send you an SD card with software on it". He gets your money, *possibly* getting some earnings out of it, and then gives it back to you after some time, saying: oops, sorry, I cant give you what I promised. I am giving your money back, but pay me again through this other means, I will send you a link to the software at some point in the future. He gets your money again, presumably getting more earnings out of it, and then again gives it back to you. Maybe giving another excuse who knows. Rinse and repeat at nauseam. All this time he uses your money abusing your trust.

The "neopwn scheme" ... you gotta admit...sick ...

just my 2 cents.
PS: Could all these posts backing up the author have been made by the same person? I mean, even the "alleged" driver author who now removed his post? oh my... Identity theft? plot thickens.

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I trust what i see, but aircrack-ng is a reliable source uh?
http://aircrack-ng.blogspot.com/2010...gust-2010.html

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Let's see what happens on August 28th, 2010. Some members here should get a mail with the download links...
According to the website the driver is binary patched.
(source: http://www.neopwn.com/store.php)

here a full quote just in case the website changes...

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Ohh I saw Grim Wepa on the screenshots, looks like Spoon Wep. I wannttt :D.

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Maybe I don't understand the situation well, but seriously, 1350EUR? Considering the cost of these devices, that's nothing. I'm surprised that anyone here is bothered by it. Recouping costs is reasonable.

I'd be happy to donate something if the project made an effort to address the concerns here, though I am certain that they have better things to do.

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I would like to see a donation link on their homepage with a little lower number on it. I'll throw away ten bucks on almost anything, even a nice beer, but $25 is hard to justify. Their total will go to $170 the instant they make a ten dollar donation available.

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Agreed, I would donate 10$. 25$ is a pair of shoes, close to a full tank of gas. When I see it that way, and the way the NeoPwn Devs complained to the community that we weren't giving enough support, I'll pass.

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Agree on both points. 1350Eur is barely a months wage for any professional programmer, and if that's what the driver cost him to be developed then I can understand that he would want to recoup that cost. Anyone genuinely interested in using this software for more than trying to crack their neighbours wep key can probably donate something towards it's development.

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hey
any news? today is the 28. you remember? Any of you guys got your files? Is it working as expected?

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Only got 210 in donations so the 1350 target hasnt been met

Does this mean that the download links will not be sent out either or does it mean it will become free as such when the 1350 target is met or the download links will only go out once the target is met

It is a little unclear to me

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I'm guessing the donations and the payments for the private beta are different things?

EDIT

There's been an update on the website

"NeoPwn v2 Beta Release Day!

We're still on schedule for the (private) Beta release. Expect mail in your inboxes this evening, about 22:00 (PDT). Quality bug reports welcome; n00betry is automatically /dev/null'd."

:)

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Edit - never mind, bit slow this morning

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Hope i can join this beta ... Visa is coming next week :(