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penguinbait

2007-02-07 06:28

Window Maker N800 DUAL Window Manager Install/Hack available

FIRST OFF - Lets start out with the normal (I am not responsible for myself let alone your device) If you do not follow this exactly it may not work. If it does not work, it could cause you to reflash. Even if you follow this exactly it might not work for you. BLAH BLAH BLAH

OK Next issue 770 USERS
I no longer have a 770, to play with, so I can not test. N800 is binary compatible so it should work. You might have more library's needed? or some of the scripts I used may be different. I suggest someone looking through my tarball in /etc and verifying the scripts are the same, if so it might just work. Again not responsible for anything.

If you have a dual boot setup on 770, and a spare card, that would be the safest way to test. That goes for N800 users also

I think you will be very pleased, even with no mouse buttons this is very useable. You can switch window managers well running, very nice!!

PRE-REQUISITE - I just did this from a fresh flash , this is what was installed.
to install this you need the following setup
becomeroot
xterm
ssh

becomeroot needs to be installed
http://eko.one.pl/maemo/dists/mistra....1-2_armel.deb

NEXT
Go to application repository
http://maemo.org/maemowiki/ApplicationRepositories

Add all the 2007 repositories, refresh
install osso-xterm, start xterm
run
apt-get install ssh

NOW
You need to make sure this line is in /etc/sudoers , or this will not work

user ALL = (ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL

If you do not, after installing becomeroot,

Start xterm

run
sudo gainroot

cp and paste this command in next to add it
echo "user ALL = (ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL" >> /etc/sudoers

next download the tarball

From browser open;
http://penguinbait.com/WM6.tar.gz

NOTE about 7.5MB, uncompressed about 20MB (17.5)

if you save in user Documents folder run the following
cd /
gunzip /home/user/MyDocs/.documents/WM6.tar.gz
tar xvf /home/user/MyDocs/.documents/WM6.tar

ADDED EDIT
NEXT, from xterm or ssh run
ldconfig

now you can use your new WM

Thats IT, your done, please provide feedback. I have used this on fresh flash, bootmenu not needed, but its nice.....

WHATS WORKING AND INFO

I added these so you could switch window managers while running, or boot to either one :)

Hildon menu options added
Added menu option to switch Window Maker while running
Added menu option to switch to Window Maker on reboot

Window Maker menu options added
Added options in session menu to switch to hildon while running (Hildon Desktop)
Added options in session menu to switch to hildon on reboot (Reboot to Hildon)

Additional working itemes on WMaker
4 Desktops, You can setup as many as you like
Drag windows right to switch desktops
menu button switches desktops
zoom out button, is menu button (sometime sticks try switching desktops if it wont come up)
zoom in button is minimize window

WPrefs is working with images
On-screen keyboard (oskey-x)
Google (links -g google.com)
Xterm
wmagnify is working
lots of empty menus, but I did not want to remove them

thoughtfix

2007-02-07 06:59

Re: Window Maker N800 DUAL Window Manager Install/Hack available

Contact me via gmail if you can. I have thoughts. :)

penguinbait

2007-02-07 13:20

Re: Window Maker N800 DUAL Window Manager Install/Hack available

Gotta run off to work, Im tired, could use a nap. When I get some free time later today, I will shoot you an email.

I see this has been downloaded 3 times, anyone get it working? Feedback?

azule

2007-02-07 15:53

Re: Window Maker N800 DUAL Window Manager Install/Hack available

I'd be really curious to see what this looks like on the small screen... Anyone who gets it working, could you post a screenshot??

penguinbait

2007-02-07 16:22

Re: Window Maker N800 DUAL Window Manager Install/Hack available

video has been posted

It shows a rough build, its much better with my tar release

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ead.php?t=4552

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvPZcNCHBvQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sh9VoEb93I

penguinbait

2007-02-07 16:29

Re: Window Maker N800 DUAL Window Manager Install/Hack available

NOTE, you may need to run ldconfig as root after you untar to root, I will put edit above

andymulhearn

2007-02-07 17:15

Re: Window Maker N800 DUAL Window Manager Install/Hack available

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 33730)

NOTE, you may need to run ldconfig as root after you untar to root, I will put edit above

A question. Why is ssh required? There's nothing in the instructions that needs it, apart from optionally using it on running ldconfig?

penguinbait

2007-02-07 17:27

Re: Window Maker N800 DUAL Window Manager Install/Hack available

SSh is used because thats what I did, not sure if it is required? But its what was on mine, so I am telling you how I setup and made it work. If you install and do not install ssh, and it works let me know and I will update my instructions.

The obvious advantage of ssh is having a way back in, should something go wrong....

Anyone else got this going yet? Hellooooooooo

Karel Jansens

2007-02-07 17:39

Re: Window Maker N800 DUAL Window Manager Install/Hack available

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 33750)

Anyone else got this going yet? Hellooooooooo

(Tunneling in from the thread next door)

Here's the thing: I really really want to try this; I want to try it so hard it hurts.

But, despite appearances (my abundant posting here e.g.) I also really really don't have the time to play much with anything these days. Give me a month...

andymulhearn

2007-02-07 18:58

Re: Window Maker N800 DUAL Window Manager Install/Hack available

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 33750)

OK.

Quote:

The obvious advantage of ssh is having a way back in, should something go wrong....

Makes sense.

Quote:

Anyone else got this going yet? Hellooooooooo

Plucking up coourage now.

penguinbait

2007-02-07 19:25

Re: Window Maker N800 DUAL Window Manager Install/Hack available

andymulhearn - Dont be scared :)

How about some software to go with it!!

780K
http://penguinbait.com/wmapps.tar

provides the following files

Again
cd /
tar xvf /path/to/wmapps.tar

run ldconfig

now run wmXXXX it will appear on your desktop in WM. It is kind of hard to grab them to move, but you can. If you switch windows managers while these are running, hildon will pop up, you can then close or minimize the wmapps.

These work but have issues

./usr/local/bin/wmcdclock
./usr/local/bin/wmfsm

These all work
./usr/local/bin/wmcpuload
./usr/local/bin/wmmemmon
./usr/local/bin/wmnetload
./usr/local/bin/wmupmon
./usr/local/bin/wmwifi
./usr/local/bin/wmifinfo
./usr/local/include/
./usr/local/include/dockapp.h
./usr/local/lib/
./usr/local/lib/libdockapp.a
./usr/local/lib/libdockapp.la
./usr/local/lib/libdockapp.so
./usr/local/lib/libdockapp.so.2
./usr/local/lib/libdockapp.so.2.0.0

penguinbait

2007-02-07 20:06

Re: Window Maker N800 DUAL Window Manager Install/Hack available

For those that wanted clear image, here you go, look at those pretty dock apps :-)

http://penguinbait.com/WindowMakerN800.JPG

thoughtfix

2007-02-07 20:12

Re: Window Maker N800 DUAL Window Manager Install/Hack available

Now THAT looks like Linux. ;) But what about text entry? Does xkbd have to be run manually?

penguinbait

2007-02-07 20:30

Re: Window Maker N800 DUAL Window Manager Install/Hack available

that is oskey-x

I put a entry on the menu to start it. This way you can start it when you need it and close it when you don't You will see from the picture the CPU is 100%. Unfortunately the keyboard app runs using 100% of the CPU.

This is wierd though, because as soon as anythign else needs anything the oskey-x app gives up the resources. Its like its running 100%, do polling or something.

If you start a hildon app, inside WM, it will have the hildon virtual keyboard come up when you enter a text field. It is not in a window though, and parks in the middle of the screen. Its like we need a "Hildon Prison" to run hildon apps inside of to hold them together (app + keyboard) that is.

You will also notice the "Hildon Desktop" in the "Session" menu, this will change window manager while running, just wait 10-15 seconds and you will be running like WM was never installed. There is an equivelant menu inside hildon to go back to WM, although its much faster to go to WM than back to hildon. I love it, I am hoping to hear someone else is up and running????

midiwall

2007-02-07 20:31

Re: Window Maker N800 DUAL Window Manager Install/Hack available

okay, I have it installed, but...

Looking at /usr/bin/wm.sh, it looks like it's going to replace the default shell. Is there a way I can run "standalone" without messing with the config?

side note... instead of:

gunzip /home/user/MyDocs/.documents/WM6.tar.gz
tar xvf /home/user/MyDocs/.documents/WM6.tar

you can just:

tar zxvf /home/user/MyDocs/.documents/WM6.tar.gz

penguinbait

2007-02-07 20:33

Re: Window Maker N800 DUAL Window Manager Install/Hack available

Quote:

Originally Posted by midiwall (Post 33786)

gunzip /home/user/MyDocs/.documents/WM6.tar.gz
tar xvf /home/user/MyDocs/.documents/WM6.tar

you can just:

tar zxvf /home/user/MyDocs/.documents/WM6.tar.gz

For some reason I thought you could not do that in busybox, although I have not tried in about a year.

Here is the deal, if you install this, it will not change anything on your currently installed system. It adds some changed scripts that run out or /etc/osso-af-init/

These three files, going from my head hear.
matchbox.sh
real-af-startup
real-af-base

The tarball drops matchbox.sh-new and -new of the others + -orig of them. If you install and reboot you will get a hildon desktop, and see nothing different but two menu options. Running WindowMaker from menu will stop hildon and start WM. This will not alter any startup files. If you switch to WM and reboot, you will still be in Hildon

There is a second menu option inside hildon, that says "reboot to WMaker" If you run the reboot menu options in WM or Hildon, this will alter the startup files and when you reboot it will boot up to the appropiate window manager.

Note also there was a path update to /etc/profile so that is changed on install. You are welcome to hack away and try this anyway you want.

andymulhearn

2007-02-07 20:33

Re: Window Maker N800 DUAL Window Manager Install/Hack available

Installed and working, sort of.

I can reboot into wmaker and have tried some apps but if I start wmaker from withi Hildon I get a whte screen and nothing else.

penguinbait

2007-02-07 20:43

Re: Window Maker N800 DUAL Window Manager Install/Hack available

I got this the first time, can you try switching back and forth between them and let me know if it is still not working?

Did you run ldconfig after untar? If not the reboot should fix it

Thanks,

jayholler

2007-02-07 20:46

Re: Window Maker N800 DUAL Window Manager Install/Hack available

I am also installed, running WM works fine. But I get the same issue as andymulhearn with WM only showing a white screen when I try to launch it after booting in hildon.

One other question:
You mention using bootmenu, do you have an example bootmenu.conf file for choosing the hildon or WM environments?

penguinbait

2007-02-07 20:49

Re: Window Maker N800 DUAL Window Manager Install/Hack available

Can you switch back, to hildon from WM. Try going back and forth after rebooting. Let me know if it is still not working for you?

I did run in ldconfig manually?

Thanks

penguinbait

2007-02-07 20:56

Re: Window Maker N800 DUAL Window Manager Install/Hack available

Quote:

Originally Posted by midiwall (Post 33786)

gunzip /home/user/MyDocs/.documents/WM6.tar.gz
tar xvf /home/user/MyDocs/.documents/WM6.tar

you can just:

tar zxvf /home/user/MyDocs/.documents/WM6.tar.gz

Did you have any problems, is it working for you?????

midiwall

2007-02-07 21:33

Re: Window Maker N800 DUAL Window Manager Install/Hack available

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 33795)

Did you have any problems, is it working for you?????

Sorry... I actually wrote my previous message from the N800 while in a meeting :), I needed to wait until I got out to get some better hands-on time.

(from Hildon)
menu | extras | WindowMaker: gives me the white screen
menu | extras | Reboot to WM: gives me WM

(from WM)
- | Session | Hildon Desktop: gets me hildon

(_now_ from Hildon)
menu | extras | WindowMaker: gets me back to WM

Yeup, ran ldconfig.

So, booting to WM will let you swap back and forth, booting to Hildon will white screen. I'd suspect that your "WidowMaker" script is losing itself when the desktop terminates and there's nothing to catch it. But, things work okay" when WM is underneath since Hildon was only running in a WM window.

As a data point, if you bring up Xterm from within WM, then close the window, you loose the key attachment for the "-" key. To get it back, you need to switch Workspaces.

Pretty cool PB!

andymulhearn

2007-02-07 21:37

Re: Window Maker N800 DUAL Window Manager Install/Hack available

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 33794)

Can you switch back, to hildon from WM. Try going back and forth after rebooting. Let me know if it is still not working for you?

Switching in and out of hildon/wmaker works fine with reboot but there was no way to get into wmaker with hildon running.

Quote:

I did run in ldconfig manually?

Yes

Quote:

Thanks

No, thank you. This is looking really interesting.

penguinbait

2007-02-07 22:08

Re: Window Maker N800 DUAL Window Manager Install/Hack available

Quote:

Originally Posted by midiwall (Post 33803)

So I think you are saying that if WindowMaker is the default WM, you can switch back and forth without any problems. If you boot to hildon, you can not switch to WM without rebooting?

that makes no sense to me. If that is the case, I suspect if you boot back to hildon, it will now work from there also.

I can switch back and forth no matter what is booted.

penguinbait

2007-02-07 22:19

Re: Window Maker N800 DUAL Window Manager Install/Hack available

OK, I have been thinking, and a reboot is required after install.

/etc/profile is changed to add /usr/local/bin to path. What is happening is matchbox and maemo_desktop stops, and it can not find the path with "Window Maker", this is why it turned white the first time you ran it.

after untar of WM6.tar.gz to root
run ldconfig (because /usr/local/lib is added /etc/ld.so.conf, this should happen on boot, but )
reboot to update (/etc/profile to add /usr/local/bin/ to path)

After this no matter which one you boot to you should be able to switch on the fly to either window manager.

Anyone who has installed, please reboot your n800. Now please test for me and provide the results....
From

(from Hildon)
menu | extras | WindowMaker:
menu | extras | Reboot to WM:

(from WM)
- | Session | Hildon Desktop:
- | Session | Reboot to Hildon:

NOTE, if you do not want to test the reboot options, please test the "WindowMaker" and "Hildon Desktop" entrys

Oh well, you cant get it perfect on the first time, that what revisions are for, well the tar is ok, I guess the install instructions just needed a little tweeking.

I need feedback and please anyone who compiles anything, SHARE SHARE SHARE

midiwall

2007-02-07 22:26

Re: Window Maker N800 DUAL Window Manager Install/Hack available

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 33812)

So I think you are saying that if WindowMaker is the default WM, you can switch back and forth without any problems. If you boot to hildon, you can not switch to WM without rebooting?

Correct.

Quote:

that makes no sense to me. If that is the case, I suspect if you boot back to hildon, it will now work from there also.

Nope! I'm looking at a white screen.

penguinbait

2007-02-07 22:35

Re: Window Maker N800 DUAL Window Manager Install/Hack available

Mark, can you ssh in, while hildon is up.

su - user
echo $PATH
swm.sh

Let me know what you path is, and if you get errors, or if it switches to WM

midiwall

2007-02-07 22:44

Re: Window Maker N800 DUAL Window Manager Install/Hack available

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 33822)

Mark, can you ssh in, while hildon is up.

su - user
echo $PATH
swm.sh

Sure!

Code:

~ $ swm.sh

Stopping MAEMO AF Desktop

Stopping Matchbox window manager

~ $ /usr/local/bin/wmaker fatal error: it seems that there is already a window manager running

Looks like you didn't get Matchbox shutdown... (check PID 1311):

Code:

~ $ ps xa

  PID  Uid     VmSize Stat Command

    1 root        480 S   init [2]

    2 root            SWN [ksoftirqd/0]

    3 root            SW  [watchdog/0]

    4 root            DW< [events/0]

    5 root            SW< [khelper]

    6 root            SW< [kthread]

   29 root            SW< [kblockd/0]

   30 root            SW< [kseriod]

   41 root            SW< [OMAP McSPI/0]

  109 root            SW  [pdflush]

  110 root            SW  [pdflush]

  111 root            SW< [kswapd0]

  112 root            SW< [aio/0]

  115 root            SW< [mipid_esd]

  245 root            SW  [mtdblockd]

  275 root            SW< [kmmcd]

  285 root            SW< [krfcommd]

  294 root            SW  [mmcqd]

  299 root            SWN [jffs2_gcd_mtd3]

  327 root        552 S < dsme -d -l syslog -v 4 -p /usr/lib/dsme/libstartup.so

  330 root        552 S < dsme -d -l syslog -v 4 -p /usr/lib/dsme/libstartup.so

  331 root        552 S   dsme -d -l syslog -v 4 -p /usr/lib/dsme/libstartup.so

  334 root        336 S   /usr/bin/bme

  956 root            SWN [jffs2_gcd_mtd4]

  981 root        420 S < /sbin/udevd --daemon

 1252 nobody      640 S < /usr/sbin/dnsmasq -k -i lo -a 127.0.0.1 -z

 1258 messageb   1416 S < /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system

 1266 root        812 S   /usr/sbin/sshd

 1273 root       1308 S < /sbin/mce

 1276 messageb   1444 S   /usr/lib/gconf2/gconfd-2

 1279 root       2448 S < /usr/bin/Xomap -mouse tslib -nozap -dpi 96 -wr

 1300 user        180 S < /usr/sbin/temp-reaper

 1303 user       1220 S < /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --session

 1307 user       2524 S < /usr/lib/sapwood/sapwood-server

 1311 user       2944 S < /usr/bin/matchbox-window-manager -theme theme3 -use_t

 1319 root            SW< [mailbox/dsp]

 1324 root       1128 S   /usr/sbin/dsp_dld -p --disable-restart -c /lib/dsp/ds

 1342 root        888 S < /usr/sbin/hcid -n -x

 1351 root        544 S < /usr/sbin/sdpd -n

 1373 root        832 S < /usr/bin/bme-dbus-proxy -N

 1390 root       1432 S   /usr/bin/osso_hss

 1395 root        600 S < /usr/bin/esd

 1418 root       1124 S < /usr/bin/btcond -l

 1450 root            SW< [file-storage-ga]

 1453 root       1440 S < /usr/sbin/ke-recv

 1460 root       1164 S < /usr/sbin/wlancond

 1463 root       1456 S < /usr/sbin/icd

 1485 user       1396 S < /usr/bin/maemo-launcher --daemon --send-app-died --bo

 1512 user       1856 S   /usr/libexec/dbus-vfs-daemon

 1546 messageb   2284 S   /usr/bin/eapd

 1547 messageb   2284 S   /usr/bin/eapd

 1548 messageb   2284 S   /usr/bin/eapd

 1553 user        328 S < /usr/bin/osso-connectivity-ui-conndlgs

 1554 user       4536 S < /usr/bin/osso-connectivity-ui-conndlgs

 1557 user        328 S < /usr/bin/hildon-input-method

 1558 user       5260 S < /usr/bin/hildon-input-method

 1572 user        532 S < /usr/bin/clipboard-manager

 1575 user       3324 S < /usr/bin/osso-media-server

 1578 root       1248 S   /usr/bin/ias

 1598 systemui   4920 S < /usr/bin/systemui

 1611 user       1056 S < /usr/bin/obexsrv -l

 1630 user       1856 S   /usr/bin/alarmd

 1667 user       2712 S   /usr/bin/mediaplayer-engine

 1673 user       4356 S   /usr/bin/metalayer-crawler -F

 1679 user       2712 S   /usr/bin/mediaplayer-engine

 1682 user       4356 S   /usr/bin/metalayer-crawler -F

 1690 root        476 S < /sbin/udhcpc -i wlan0 -s /etc/udhcpc/udhcpc.script -f

 1701 user       3480 S   /usr/bin/mission-control

 1703 user       1488 S   /usr/libexec/galago-daemon

 1705 user       1416 S   /usr/lib/galago/telepathy-feed

 1707 user       2804 S   /usr/bin/telepathy-gabble

 1709 user       3528 S   /usr/libexec/eds-sync

 1711 user       2208 S   /usr/libexec/e-addressbook-factory

 1712 user       2208 S   /usr/libexec/e-addressbook-factory

 1721 root       1480 S   sshd: root@pts/0

 1723 root        712 S   -sh

 1737 user        780 S   -sh

 1776 user        588 R   ps xa

~ $

Maybe some game playing with grep to extract the PID from PS XA, then a kill? Or maybe just "killall -9 matchbox"...

midiwall

2007-02-07 22:49

Re: Window Maker N800 DUAL Window Manager Install/Hack available

fwiw... "killall -9 matchbox-window-manager" gets rid of the process, but running swm.sh afterwards still has the error message.

My WiFi connection here at work sucks, but I'll try to play a bit.

gut feel... there are other processes that you need to kill off, and the sleep's after trying to use the restart scripts aren't enough to make it happen.

midiwall

2007-02-07 22:53

Re: Window Maker N800 DUAL Window Manager Install/Hack available

woop.... I think I got it. Matchbox is being re-launched fast enough that it's back running by th time the wm launcher kicks in.

penguinbait

2007-02-07 23:28

Re: Window Maker N800 DUAL Window Manager Install/Hack available

can you run it again?

su - user
sh - x /usr/local/bin/swm.sh

please post the output!

midiwall

2007-02-07 23:36

Re: Window Maker N800 DUAL Window Manager Install/Hack available

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 33832)

can you run it again?

su - user
sh -x /usr/local/bin/swm.sh

Code:

Nokia-N800-51:~# su - user



BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 3:1.1.3-3.sdk2) Built-in shell (ash)

Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.



~ $ sh -x /usr/bin/swm.sh

+ MBTHEME=default

+ TITLEBAR=yes

+ DESKTOPMODE=plain

+ LOWLIGHT=no

+ SHOWCURSOR=yes

+ DIALOGMODE=static

+ SUPERMODAL=yes

+ [ -f /home/user/.osso/mbtheme ]

+ source /etc/osso-af-init/maemo-af-desktop.sh stop

+ PREFIX=/usr

+ CURRENT_THEME_FILE=/home/user/.osso/current-gtk-theme

+ CURRENT_MAEMO_THEME_FILE=/home/user/.osso/current-gtk-theme.maemo_af_desktop

+ cat /home/user/.osso/current-gtk-theme

+ sed -e s/include\ "\/usr\/share\/themes\/// -e s/\/gtk\-2\.0\/gtkrc\"//+ tr -d



+ CURRENT_THEME=theme3

+ [ ! -f /home/user/.osso/current-gtk-theme.maemo_af_desktop ]

+ [ x/tmp/af-piddir = x ]

+ [ ! -w /tmp/af-piddir ]

+ PROG=/usr/bin/maemo_af_desktop

+ SVC=MAEMO AF Desktop

+ START=FALSE

+ [ FALSE = TRUE ]

+ /etc/osso-af-init/nice-launch-wrapper.sh stop MAEMO AF Desktop /usr/bin/maemo_af_desktop

Stopping MAEMO AF Desktop

+ sleep 1

+ source /etc/osso-af-init/matchbox.sh-orig stop

+ [ x/tmp/af-piddir = x ]

+ [ ! -w /tmp/af-piddir ]

+ PROG=/usr/bin/matchbox-window-manager

+ SVC=Matchbox window manager

+ START=FALSE

+ [ FALSE = TRUE ]

+ /etc/osso-af-init/nice-launch-wrapper-tryrestart.sh stop Matchbox window manager /usr/bin/matchbox-window-manager -theme default -use_titlebar yes -use_desktop_mode plain -use_lowlight no -use_cursor yes -use_dialog_mode static -use_super_modal yes

Stopping Matchbox window manager

+ sleep 1

+ /etc/osso-af-init/matchbox.sh-new

~ $ /usr/local/bin/wmaker fatal error: it seems that there is already a window manager running

penguinbait

2007-02-08 00:44

Re: Window Maker N800 DUAL Window Manager Install/Hack available

OK I did some testing

I flashed rootfs
booted to mmc and mounted mtdblock4 (rootfs)
downloaded from my website WM6.tar.gz

untarred onto flash (nothing is installed at this point)

rebooted

ran WindowMaker menu shortcut

fails with white screen

I rebooted

Added all 2007 application repositories

installed becomeroot

ran WindowMaker menu shortcut

fails with white screen

I rebooted

I installed osso-xterm

ran Window Maker menu shortcut

This time it works

OK, I need some more investigation, but if it is not working for you can you uninstall xterm and reinstall xterm and let me know if it works for you?

Thanks

I uninstalled xterm and it still works....?

midiwall

2007-02-08 01:44

Re: Window Maker N800 DUAL Window Manager Install/Hack available

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 33846)

OK, I need some more investigation, but if it is not working for you can you uninstall xterm and reinstall xterm and let me know if it works for you?

I already run osso-xterm... Or, are you thinking that something you laid in walked over osss-xterm, so an uninstall/re-install may fix it?

I had some problems early-on with the N800 with Xterm suddenly not working, and I'd rather not see it break (it works now). Lemme do some poking around, set up a secondary boot image, and I'll give it a shot.

penguinbait

2007-02-08 02:26

Re: Window Maker N800 DUAL Window Manager Install/Hack available

no problem, let me know if you find out anything. Anyone else same thing, let me know.

schmots

2007-02-08 13:39

Re: Window Maker N800 DUAL Window Manager Install/Hack available

I just ordered my n800 today, should have it by next week. I really want to try this. What is the risk percentage of "bricking" your device? Can it always be reflashed, or at some point can you screw up the inits and boots so bad that you can't fix it.

aflegg

2007-02-08 14:03

Re: Window Maker N800 DUAL Window Manager Install/Hack available

No, with this mod it will always be possible to reflash and recover your device to its factory settings.

(I'm 99.9% sure, but not going to give a guarantee ;-))

schmots

2007-02-08 14:21

Re: Window Maker N800 DUAL Window Manager Install/Hack available

This is a bit off topic for this thread, but what about in general. What are some common things that maemo users try to do that might brick your device? I just want to make sure I don't do them, or I consider them very carefully.

I also think, despite that I know there are so many, that I might start a blog when I get my 800 in as a newbie blog. What I did.. exactly how.. that sort of thing.

lbattraw

2007-02-08 14:24

Re: Window Maker N800 DUAL Window Manager Install/Hack available

Quote:

Originally Posted by schmots (Post 33910)

I might add that copying your system to a SD card and booting/working from there for these experiments is key. That way you never end up blowing away the system stored on the n800 flash. See http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...hp/t-4053.html
The instructions are rather technical, but then you probably need to be fairly proficient to play around with stuff anyway. I end up experimenting on the SD card version of the system and then making the changes on the flash if everything goes well.

Larry

aflegg

2007-02-08 14:30

Re: Window Maker N800 DUAL Window Manager Install/Hack available

Quote:

Originally Posted by schmots (Post 33919)

What are some common things that maemo users try to do that might brick your device?

Common things? Nothing springs to mind. Trying to flash a new bootloader that you created yourself might do it ;-)

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