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maemo.it 2010-02-25 13:07

Problem tapping on links. When my finger lift screen to select option, options-window closes quickly impeding me to select it.
 
Hi to all, I've a question about tapping on links in webpages to select an option. When I tap on a link maintain my finger on the screen till the option-window opens and after I move my finger (lifting the screen) to select an option (eg. save as...open in new window...), option-window closes as fast as I can't select option desired. Only way I'm able to select an option is just tapping on a link maintain my finger on the screen till the option-window opens and after crawling my finger on the desired option in option window without never lift it from the screen.
It's normal?

nath 2010-02-25 13:24

Re: Problem tapping on links. When my finger lift screen to select option, options-window closes quickly impeding me to select it.
 
Yes, that is the way to select an option. You just slide your finger to the option you want to select and lift it there.

benny1967 2010-02-25 13:27

Re: Problem tapping on links. When my finger lift screen to select option, options-window closes quickly impeding me to select it.
 
I think it's a bug, it cannot be the intended behaviour. I have the same problem, too. Sometimes, though, the context menu stays open and allows me to normally select items from it.

The bug is new in Maemo 5 and wasn't there in previous versions of Maemo.

markusm 2010-02-25 13:27

Re: Problem tapping on links. When my finger lift screen to select option, options-window closes quickly impeding me to select it.
 
I believe it's normal as in "that's how it seems to work". I would call it a bug - don't know if it has been reported or not.

It is possible to long press and have the context menu stay open but it requires you to lift your finger on an exactly right moment :) Even with practice I can't manage it two times in a row.

I hope it gets fixed soon.

roamerjiang 2010-02-25 13:28

Re: Problem tapping on links. When my finger lift screen to select option, options-window closes quickly impeding me to select it.
 
same here, but i found sometimes, the option is still there even if i moved my finger away, but most of time is that i have to move my finger on the screen to select what i want. I believe it is a bug and could be solved by firmware update.

adancau 2010-02-25 13:38

Re: Problem tapping on links. When my finger lift screen to select option, options-window closes quickly impeding me to select it.
 
same problem here, it's not normal but that's how it is apparently :) kinda got used to it though

cashclientel 2010-02-25 13:39

Re: Problem tapping on links. When my finger lift screen to select option, options-window closes quickly impeding me to select it.
 
To open the sub menu you press and hold on what you want to select.
when the sub menu opens take your finger off the screen.
now click onto whatever sub option you want

took me a while to figure this out! trying to keep your finger on the screen through the whole process leads to muchos confusion.

slender 2010-02-25 13:44

Re: Problem tapping on links. When my finger lift screen to select option, options-window closes quickly impeding me to select it.
 
i made topic about popup coming on wrong side for right handed(finger+hand is onway of all information). So it seems that this issue is in way also affected by this.

With stylus popup stays on screen. This might be becuse with figer you tap larger are and also are under popups men. with nail it again works.

.edit
or maybe not..this is definetly bug.it just worked some time with stylus but now i have to keep it on screen.

Strickmabil 2010-02-25 13:45

Re: Problem tapping on links. When my finger lift screen to select option, options-window closes quickly impeding me to select it.
 
Like it has been said before: just hold your finger against the screen and slide it to the option you want to select. Don't know whether this is a bug or not.. but I don't see what's the problem of making the correct user of your fingers to solve it. Adaptability and improvisation are wonderful characteristics that distinguish us from other living beings.

slender 2010-02-25 13:50

Re: Problem tapping on links. When my finger lift screen to select option, options-window closes quickly impeding me to select it.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Strickmabil (Post 545828)
Adaptability and improvisation are wonderful characteristics that distinguish us from other living beings.

Nice words but i think that with UI design most important thing is to minimize users need to adapt itself to device usage.

markusm 2010-02-25 13:55

Re: Problem tapping on links. When my finger lift screen to select option, options-window closes quickly impeding me to select it.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Strickmabil (Post 545828)
Like it has been said before: just hold your finger against the screen and slide it to the option you want to select. Don't know whether this is a bug or not.. but I don't see what's the problem of making the correct user of your fingers to solve it. Adaptability and improvisation are wonderful characteristics that distinguish us from other living beings.

Of course it's a bug. Everywhere else the popup menu stays open - no need to slide your finger. It seems as if in the browser lifting your finger the UI triggers a click outside the popup menu and the UI therefore closes the popup. Maybe a tweak of some sensitivity settings is needed.

And It's OK to admit the software might have bugs - as long as someone fixes them ;)

benny1967 2010-02-25 13:59

Re: Problem tapping on links. When my finger lift screen to select option, options-window closes quickly impeding me to select it.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Strickmabil (Post 545828)
Like it has been said before: just hold your finger against the screen and slide it to the option you want to select. Don't know whether this is a bug or not.. but I don't see what's the problem of making the correct user of your fingers to solve it. Adaptability and improvisation are wonderful characteristics that distinguish us from other living beings.

rubbish. if you know how it's supposed to work and you know that it did work before you mustn't adapt to lower standards.

maemo.it 2010-02-25 14:00

Re: Problem tapping on links. When my finger lift screen to select option, options-window closes quickly impeding me to select it.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Strickmabil (Post 545828)
Like it has been said before: just hold your finger against the screen and slide it to the option you want to select. Don't know whether this is a bug or not.. but I don't see what's the problem of making the correct user of your fingers to solve it. Adaptability and improvisation are wonderful characteristics that distinguish us from other living beings.

of course! but continue research of better comforts is our characteristic too!
;)

In any chase, from times working/times not working, randomly, I understand it's a bug!
;)
How to select it on bug section?

Strickmabil 2010-02-25 14:07

Re: Problem tapping on links. When my finger lift screen to select option, options-window closes quickly impeding me to select it.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 545843)
rubbish. if you know how it's supposed to work and you know that it did work before you mustn't adapt to lower standards.

I don't know how it worked before... I've always used it this way. Don't know if it is working as intended or not. It doesn't bother me tbh.

ceevee 2010-04-21 06:21

Re: Problem tapping on links. When my finger lift screen to select option, options-window closes quickly impeding me to select it.
 
I've been dragging my finger to select Open link in new window after a long press on a link.

However I'm not sure if this is the intended action because sometimes I don't need to maintain a finger press in order to keep the context menu open.

cjp 2010-04-21 06:41

Re: Problem tapping on links. When my finger lift screen to select option, options-window closes quickly impeding me to select it.
 
I feel that that's a problem of the resistive screen. It just thinks you've pressed somewshere else already. Or, as often happens, once you lift your finger, it fails to register the press. This is something I really don't understand as it claims to understand my input before I raise my finger.

Not sure what's going on here, though.

pelago 2010-04-21 13:31

Re: Problem tapping on links. When my finger lift screen to select option, options-window closes quickly impeding me to select it.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by markusm (Post 545839)
Of course it's a bug. Everywhere else the popup menu stays open - no need to slide your finger. It seems as if in the browser lifting your finger the UI triggers a click outside the popup menu and the UI therefore closes the popup.

I find I have the same problem (the popup context menu disappearing) in other apps too, not just the browser. It disappears if you keep your finger held down, slide onto the menu, then slide out of it, which is really frustrating. I hope MeeGo or Harmattan provide easier-to-use context menus.

Milhouse 2010-04-21 13:56

Re: Problem tapping on links. When my finger lift screen to select option, options-window closes quickly impeding me to select it.
 
This almost certainly is a bug.

OS 2008 had a similar problem (see bug #2333 in particular comment #5 which states:

(note: CSM == Context Sensitive Menu, ie. popup menu)

Quote:

The applications need to setup the CSM correctly, otherwise the code will
receive the release event and close without mercy.

I mean, considering the menu opens exactly where you press the stylus, any
minimal noise will appear as if you released it outside the CSM (because we use
owner_events = TRUE for the grab). That is the reason why we have a way to tell
the GtkMenu code "you are a CSM, only close when the user moves more than the
DnD threshold (30) px". AFAIK applications should be fixed to do this correctly
now, check in a future release ;)
So if the application forgets to configure the popup menu correctly it will close when the stylus/finger moves. From my experience some Maemo5 apps open the popup menu correctly and leave it open, while some apps open popup menus which disappear before they can be selected.

Most likely this is due to a regression of bug #2333. If you wish, re-open #2333 or clone it for Maemo5.

maemo.it 2010-04-21 23:53

Re: Problem tapping on links. When my finger lift screen to select option, options-window closes quickly impeding me to select it.
 
@Milhouse: thank you for your advice, I posted this as bug
;)

Milhouse 2010-04-22 10:11

Re: Problem tapping on links. When my finger lift screen to select option, options-window closes quickly impeding me to select it.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maemo.it (Post 621761)
@Milhouse: thank you for your advice, I posted this as bug
;)

Bug #9999.

:)


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