Re: [Announce] Zim - ported to maemo
 

Thank you very much :)

Being a gtk application there are things, like buttons overlaying the text area, that can't be implemented, at least without a very substantial effort of reimplementing good part of gtk itself.

Also, I don't want to deviate substantially from the actual interface to follow any radical UI guidelines like the ones maemo5 has, because it would have to be a reimplementation or a fork of the whole thing. On the contrary, since zim is a rapidly evolving application, I'm merging with the main branch to be able to stay in sync.

What is easy to do is to show/hide toolbars and put or hide buttons in toolbars, or tap_and_hold menus in given widgets, or fix some dialogs which doesn't fit by adding scrollbars, removing unnecesary options, keybindings, etc.
Gestures are a bit more difficult, put possible, at least to certain extent. I'd also like to have kinetic scrolling (and there are already a edit mode button in the toolbar), so it is possible that in the future I try to implement it.
Hopefully, keybindings will be user configurable at some point in the future.

As of now, I have put a fullscreen button in the toolbar for the N900 only, in the upper left corner, which shows the application menu by tap and hold. Also, to allow you to use the whole screen, I have binded <ctrl>M to hide/show the toolbar.
Menus and toolbar are fully customizable by editing the file /usr/share/zim/menubar-maemo5.xml (menubar-maemo4.xml for N8X0). I have already changed some buttons, but please, feel free to adapt it to your usage by adding/removing buttons and share with me your improvements.

Try and download the new release.

Re: [Announce] Zim - ported to maemo
 

New release 0.46-maemo4-3 is available at the download page.
https://garage.maemo.org/frs/downloa...emo4-3_all.deb

New features from zim 0.46-maemo4-1:
UI bugfix: Expanders (the little triangles) in the pages tree are shown.
UI bugfix: Window is now borderless when fullscreen
<ctrl>M keybind hides/shows the toolbar
N900 users have a fullscreen button in the toolbar. Tap and hold in this button will show the application menu (for fullscreen usage)
Opera added to the available browser's list

Re: [Announce] Zim - ported to maemo
 

THANKS!

Just the bug fix I was hoping for.
I am really enjoying Zim on my N810.

Re: [Announce] Zim - ported to maemo
 

OK... thanks for clearing it up.
I've installed the new package. I think the solution is quite functional. With fullscreen button, long press menu as well as Ctrl+M I think it misses nothing...

Re: [Announce] Zim - ported to maemo
 

New release 0.46-maemo4-4 is available at the downloads page.
https://garage.maemo.org/frs/downloa...emo4-4_all.deb
New features from zim 0.46-maemo4-3:
Fixed calendar plugin behavior to auto close only when selecting a day.

Re: [Announce] Zim - ported to maemo
 

would realy like to try this one, but i can't install it.
Some cra'ppy msg of missing program package: hildon-mimi-summon. :p
How do i do this then?
I can't do anyting in xterm without exact instructions..

Re: [Announce] Zim - ported to maemo
 

Donwload the hildon-mime-summon package from the zim downloads page
https://garage.maemo.org/frs/?group_id=1386
and install it with the package manager.

Re: [Announce] Zim - ported to maemo
 

If you have installed release 0.46-maemo4-4, please download and install again. The package was built with the wrong (0.46-maemo4-3) binaries.
Sorry for the mistake.

Re: [Announce] Zim - ported to maemo
 

I'm happy to anounce that the new release 0.47-maemo4-1 is available at the downloads page.
https://garage.maemo.org/frs/downloa...emo4-1_all.deb

New features since zim 0.46-maemo4-4:
A noticeable performance improvement in the task list and page indexes.
The task list plugin adds new FIXME and TODO tags
The trayicon menu has a new "create note" dialog to quickly paste text into any notebook.
Placeholders can now be moved and deleted as regular pages.
New plugin to insert symbols and special characters
New plugin to insert and edit GNU R plots
Added traditional chinesse translation


In other news:
I've found bazaar for maemo, by installing this package the control version plugin will work too :)
The packager's blog: http://www.jdwilkins.co.uk/?p=19
The bzr 1.1 package: http://jdwilkins.co.uk/bzr-1.1.0.maemo-arm.deb

The new R plugin needs GNU R to work.
For N8x0 you'll find it here (one click install): http://gnu-r.garage.maemo.org/
For N900, package r-base available in extras-devel

Re: [Announce] Zim - ported to maemo
 

Hi,

I like the app a lot, especially for a mobile device as the N900 it really works very well.
Problem: I cannot indent checkbox item, because the soft keyboard TAB key simply insert a TAB char. Am I missing something or has anyone a clue?

Re: [Announce] Zim - ported to maemo
 

Yes, it is a known problem. The on screen thumb keyboard doesn't emit keyboard events, but injects characters in the text widget.
The only sollution for now is to use the hardware keyboard (search in the forum how to add a key combination for TAB).

Re: [Announce] Zim - ported to maemo
 

Ok, just for the brave

After some search i decided to edit /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/nokia_vndr/rx-51 as specified in this thread and after a setxkbmap now I am able to tab checkboxes.

edit: @maacruz - we wrote last message almost together. My hw keyboard doesn't have a dedicated tab key (don't know if other layouts have it) and I had to recreate it as explained above. Thanks again for the app, I feel it will be really a good tool for my N900 and my job, too!

Re: [Announce] Zim - ported to maemo
 

I'm happy to anounce that the new release 0.48-maemo4-1 is available at the garage downloads page https://garage.maemo.org/frs/?group_id=1386

The main new for this release is that maemo has been merged with upstream.

New features since 0.47:
The exports dialog has been restructured
The Quick Note plugin now supports templates and can append to a existing page
The web interface now is open remote hosts
Translations for Catalan, Croatian and Slovak

Re: [Announce] Zim - ported to maemo
 

Sounds fantastic (especially the quicknote plugin). When will it be in Extras? :)

Thanks, I really do love Zim and use it almost daily.

Re: [Announce] Zim - ported to maemo
 

Zim is also my latest fad. I tried it before and then went on to other things, and now I'm back. I use it for taking notes on books I am usually reading with Fbreader. I have a pretty efficient system for switching windows to post the info I have marked in Fbreader into an outline in Zim.

For the moment it is replacing online mind-mapping systems such as www.mindmeister.com -- it works great, but I don't always have a reliable Internet connection, such as when I'm on the train. Then too, sometimes mindmeister is somewhat cumbersome on the N900, though it has vastly improved, but Zim is still easier for my purposes.

Re: [Announce] Zim - ported to maemo
 

Thanks :)
I'll get it into extras as soon as I get the dammed scratchbox to build it (It doesn't seem to work right with python)

Re: [Announce] Zim - ported to maemo
 

cant add screenshoot plugin...app not compitible..?? any idea?? im using the latest ver..

Re: [Announce] Zim - ported to maemo
 

very nice!!

Re: [Announce] Zim - ported to maemo
 

Any progress? :)

Re: [Announce] Zim - ported to maemo
 

I'm on holidays now and far from my computer, so untill next week it won't be even possible for me to do anything.

Re: [Announce] Zim - ported to maemo
 

Hi Guys,

I am using zim through easy-debian. It is is a fine application
I would like it to have the application on maemo.
Have tried to install the package 0.48 but i got python simplejson is missing.
also through the terminal no succes . got simplejson has no installable candidates.
For python2.5 got : is already the newest candidate.
for python2.6 got also has no installable candidates

Please can someone help me out this ????

Re: [Announce] Zim - ported to maemo
 

Have manage to install the file python simplejson 2.0.9 with Faster Application Manager.
Zim 0.48 installed . Untill now seems to work fine
Thank you for porting this very usefull application..

Re: [Announce] Zim - ported to maemo
 

[ N 810 , OS 43-7 ]

I just upgraded your first Zim to 0.48 .

It seems to have about the same features as (the free version of) Notecase,
which is good.
And I definitely prefer Zim's way of storage to Notecase's single file!

A bug? :
Deleted "root-" (but not "leaf-") pages seem to be remembered as icons by the Zim window,
even after a quit and restart.
But I can't find the file referring to them.


Question :
I would like to import contents from web pages with at least some formatting kept.
Is this possible?

The only way I found, was to make a file attachment
with the web page stored in Zim's folder.

( Even so Zim may be a better tool to organize information collected from the web
than just a structure of folders. )

Re: [Announce] Zim - ported to maemo
 

I couldn't recreate the bug. May be some link hidden somewhere. Otherwise, if you can create an example notebook, file a bug report in zim's bugtracker.

I don't think it is possible, at least in maemo devices, with copy/paste because the clipboard stores just plain text. If the clipboard would keep rich text, it could be possible to write a custom tool or to modify the quick note plugin to translate the formatting, although that could be done anyway for importing a html file
It is not necesary to save the web pages in zim's notebook folder, you can use the structure of folders and link the files in zim's notebook.

Re: [Announce] Zim - ported to maemo
 

I have a question, someone here can to run the Insert Equation plug-in? I need some dependencies: latex and dvipng, ¿where i can download them? I think latex is equal to maemotext but i can't find dvipng anywhere. :(
I use Zim to take notes in class but it is difficult if i can't insert equations.

Re: [Announce] Zim - ported to maemo
 

If I find the time, I'll try to build dvipng for the N8x0, but don't hold your breath.

Re: [Announce] Zim - ported to maemo
 

@maacruz
Can we expect an upgrade to zim 0.49 for this very very useful application .
would appreciate

Re: [Announce] Zim - ported to maemo
 

Yes, I'm very short on time lately, but I'll prepare zim 0.49 as soon as possible.

Re: [Announce] Zim - ported to maemo
 

Thank you very much.

Re: [Announce] Zim - ported to maemo
 

Anyone heard when an update to the newest Zim (0.52) might happen, or if someone else would be willing to pick up the project if maacruz doesn't have time to contine it?
I don't have much time, but if it is pretty simple to update I might be able to with some guidance.
Thanks

Re: [Announce] Zim - ported to maemo
 

did u fix it for missing icon on fremantle,
4 full size and bold or normal icon.

thanx grea application

Re: [Announce] Zim - ported to maemo
 

I've just tried to give it a go, and no release over 0.49 works, so it has to be fixed first.
Can you program in python and gtk?
Do you need any new feature not provided by 0.48?

Re: [Announce] Zim - ported to maemo
 

Specifically what I was looking for was the patch listed in the CHANGELOG.txt for 0.49:
* Patch to jump to task within page - by Thomas Liebertraut

I was hoping to use it as a todo list, but not jumping to the exact todo line in the page when that todo is selected in the plugin window makes an extra step of searching for it that is kind of a bother. Other than that I do not have any specific features I know of that the newest version has, just thought it would be good if the version I run on the desktop matched.

I have played around with python and GTK and written a simple app to parse some XML using python and elementtree and display it in a GTKTreeview that successfully runs on maemo. But I would not say I have much experience. Just plinked around till it worked basically.

Re: [Announce] Zim - ported to maemo
 

I think I've fixed all crashes in 0.52, but it has a very serious performance issue opening notebooks that need to be fixed.
Download the source tar.gz, untar it and apply the patch, then run zim from there.

If you want to help me, this is what needs to be done for each new release:
Download source code
Run it from xterm, in no daemon mode and with debug output
Test all new features and all changed features, look at the xterm output for crashes or problems
Test with some big and complex notebook
Fix any broken code
Check usability of all new and modified dialogs
Fix non usable dialogs
Create patch

Once zim is in good working state I'll build a new package (actually by hand but I want to get a working build script for the extras-devel autobuilder) and will upload it to the garage page.

With the patch included here zim-0.52 will work, but the performance issue remains. If you feel up to the task, profiling will show where most of the time is spent, then looking at 0.48-0.49-0.50-0.51 will show what changes cause the issue.

Re: [Announce] Zim - ported to maemo
 

Ok, thank you. I will play with it some when I get a chance. I have been super busy at work though, so haven't had time for much else lately.
Knowing the procedure for testing the updates and fixing them is helpful.

Re: [Announce] Zim - ported to maemo
 

I've been working in the performance issue and it is in the new tag cloud feature, so as long as you don't use the tags plugin the performance is the same as 0.48
The performance hit depends on the notebook size, so tags are still usable in small notebooks.
So, it's a go, I'll prepare a new package for 0.52.
Right now I'm working in the build system, to make the package available through extras-devel repository if possible.
You could keep on testing thoroughly, as I only did a basic testing and there may be other bugs to be found.

Re: [Announce] Zim - ported to maemo
 

New release 0.52 is available in extras-devel
Changes since 0.48:
New plugins: Attachment Browser, Inline Calculator, Tags Cloud, Line sorter
Improvements include display of file paths in the notebook dialog, zim now accepting image data on copy-paste, support to organize pages by tags with an index and a tag cloud widget in the side pane, support to open pages by clicking in the link map, and several new translations.

Re: [Announce] Zim - ported to maemo
 

The 0.52 release you packaged is great, thank you!!!

I have been testing if for awhile now, and it seems very stable. I was getting crashes at first and was trying to track it down, but turned out I had a corrupted auto completion history, so other applications were crashing too. Once I cleared that I haven't had an issue since.

I would recommend a modification to the tasks plugin though, to make it much more usable on our small screens. The "close" button is not needed in hildon anyway, and it and the help button take up a lot of precious space, so I removed them both from my install and am pleased with the results.

So instead of the code:


Someone with an n8x0 may want to check that before we recommend it to the Zim team to be sure it works on the older OS too. I can't remember how my n800 treated dialogs, if you close them by clicking outside them like in hildon then the close button is not needed for them either.

Once again, great work packaging this, it is much appreciated!

Re: [Announce] Zim - ported to maemo
 

Thanks :)
Unfortunately, in maemo4 you can't close dialogs by clicking outside them, so the close button is compulsory. Also, I can't see how you can click outside a dialog when the application is fullscreen and the dialog covers the whole area.

Re: [Announce] Zim - ported to maemo
 

Ah, too bad. Oh well, it is a minor thing I can change as needed.

Just to show you what I am talking about though, here are screenshots of the dialog as shown on an n900. Hildon style interfaces do not allow full screen dialogs, they always leave the top area to click on to close it.

Here are screenshots of the hildon dialog before and after my changes, the top blurry section is where you touch to close the dialog, which is standard for any hildon app so users are used to it. Since it won't work for Maemo 4 though probably best to not merge it into source.