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febb 2010-03-02 18:12

How many N900 hardware versions out there.
 
Does anyone knows how many different hardware versions are out there of the N900 ?

I am talking HARDWARE, not operating system or firmware versions which, of course, there are several.

Are there documented differences (or fixes or improvements) of each version ?

Which one is the latest ? Are those versions zone/region related ?

Don't know if this is valid...but here it goes: Which one is the recommended/desired to (hopefully) get when buying a new N900 ?

This question, of course, goes hand in hand with my new N900 checkup list question.

Thanks.

noobmonkey 2010-03-02 18:15

Re: How many N900 hardware versions out there.
 
well, apart from the keyboards, probably not more then 1 :D

febb 2010-03-02 18:20

Re: How many N900 hardware versions out there.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by noobmonkey (Post 552747)
well, apart from the keyboards, probably not more then 1 :D

Interesting opinion: why? Because there are documented issues with the USB port (fragility) and, there are also comments that "this has been fixed by Nokia" on some new units...so, if this is true, that could be a "new" hardware revision (version)....

jae-v 2010-03-02 19:16

Re: How many N900 hardware versions out there.
 
mine is one of the originals 1801 unfortunately i cant update the sofware

MohammadAG 2010-03-02 19:22

Re: How many N900 hardware versions out there.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by febb (Post 552752)
Interesting opinion: why? Because there are documented issues with the USB port (fragility) and, there are also comments that "this has been fixed by Nokia" on some new units...so, if this is true, that could be a "new" hardware revision (version)....

Production models, sold ever since they started shipping (of course there are different batches, but they have the same HW revision afaik)
Preproduction models given out to testers and during the Maemo Summit.

febb 2010-03-02 19:22

Re: How many N900 hardware versions out there.
 
jae-v:

Do you know what 1801 is ? The hardware version maybe ?

So, it seems we have after all, at least two different hardware revisions for the N900.....

wmarone 2010-03-02 19:32

Re: How many N900 hardware versions out there.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by febb (Post 552849)
So, it seems we have after all, at least two different hardware revisions for the N900.....

I am guessing that the combination of being version 1801 and unable to update indicates the mentioned pre-production units, which you won't encounter on a day to day basis.

Retail units have had no significant hardware revisions (corrections to secure the USB port are relatively minor.)

noobmonkey 2010-03-02 19:43

Re: How many N900 hardware versions out there.
 
the hardware board i think is RX-51 - (i keep saying this, sorry! ) - the healthcheck app i'm working on displays that :) - but you can also get it out of terminal someway....

What it doesn't do is say any hardware revisions if there are any.

noobmonkey 2010-03-05 17:43

Re: How many N900 hardware versions out there.
 
Implemented Hardware revision number into the new Healthcheck applications so it shows the RX51 number and the sub revision :)

In extras devel now - will push to testing by tomorrow, if there are no issues between now and then.

V0.5.2-5 - has it in....

febb 2010-03-05 17:59

Re: How many N900 hardware versions out there.
 
NOOBMONKEY:

Thanks !... that feature looks great. Now, we need people to report their hardware versions and sub-versions for their N900's ...

And, it occurs to me to add: when did you get our N900? and
where/how did you buy it (online or brick and mortar, country)?

That we we may be able to track some patterns on the N900's...maybe.

who's first ?

noobmonkey 2010-03-05 18:01

Re: How many N900 hardware versions out there.
 
just asking the same thing on Mirc - seems the consensus (GenralAntilles) thinks there is only a few protos and normal.
Anyway, could merrit people posting it when they get time to test

Mine is RX51-2101

Bought it in december, MobilePhonesDirect, UK Vodafone, online (Pre-ordered in early october)

tuXer 2010-03-05 18:25

Re: How many N900 hardware versions out there.
 
Mine is RX51-2101, too. Bought it in late december.

To show the version on xterm: cat /peroc/cpuinfo

nappleton 2010-03-05 18:59

Re: How many N900 hardware versions out there.
 
that does not work on mine it says not found

Rob1n 2010-03-05 19:21

Re: How many N900 hardware versions out there.
 
That's because he mistyped it - it should be: cat /proc/cpuinfo

GaryHT627 2010-03-05 19:23

Re: How many N900 hardware versions out there.
 
Great App, Thanks.

Mine arrived in the US just before Christmas and it is RX-51 2101

Rtalian 2010-03-06 02:58

Re: How many N900 hardware versions out there.
 
I just got mine a few days ago from Amazon US, & it's an RX-51 revision 2101. Thanks for the HealthCheck app, noobmonkey; it's handy!

lma 2010-03-06 05:13

Re: How many N900 hardware versions out there.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tuXer (Post 557143)
Mine is RX51-2101, too. Bought it in late december.

That's interesting, so's the one I have here but it's one of the "pre-production" units loaned at the Amsterdam summit.

Quote:

To show the version on xterm: cat /proc/cpuinfo
Alternatively, "sysinfo-tool -g /device/hw-version" or "sysinfo-tool -g /component/hw-build".

noobmonkey 2010-03-06 10:56

Re: How many N900 hardware versions out there.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lma (Post 557548)
That's interesting, so's the one I have here but it's one of the "pre-production" units loaned at the Amsterdam summit.



Alternatively, "sysinfo-tool -g /device/hw-version" or "sysinfo-tool -g /component/hw-build".

Oooo interesting, so still only the one variant on here :P

Mr. Incredible 2010-03-06 14:19

Re: How many N900 hardware versions out there.
 
2101 here too
I'm from Austria, bought it in january 2010

jutley 2010-03-06 14:58

Re: How many N900 hardware versions out there.
 
mine shows rx51 board 2101

pycage 2010-03-06 15:11

Re: How many N900 hardware versions out there.
 
RX-51 2101 bought in December

RX-51 2001 prototype loaner from September

WilliePre 2010-03-06 17:14

Re: How many N900 hardware versions out there.
 
RX-51 2101 Loaner from October 2009

RX-51 2101 Purchased December 2009

noobmonkey 2010-03-06 17:20

Re: How many N900 hardware versions out there.
 
so we have two types now :) 2101 and 2001?

renox 2010-03-13 06:59

Re: How many N900 hardware versions out there.
 
Mine is a 3402.

Nah, kidding. I got a 2101 just like you guys. :rolleyes: Bought in The Netherlands end december 09.

I have the "fading problem" (maemo bug: 6063) And we think it's a hardware bug, so you guys might have this sooner or later too.... :p

cduv 2010-03-13 07:05

Re: How many N900 hardware versions out there.
 
mine is 2101 bought in Spain in December.

blue_led 2010-03-13 07:56

Re: How many N900 hardware versions out there.
 
2101 december '09 romania with all usual hardware's bonus: bright spot on display. camera haze and lag on keyboard frame

niqbal 2010-03-13 08:18

Re: How many N900 hardware versions out there.
 
Nokia RX51 : 2101; bought it late dec 09

floffe 2010-03-13 08:44

Re: How many N900 hardware versions out there.
 
2101 here, bought in Sweden a week ago

www.rzr.online.fr 2010-03-13 08:55

Re: How many N900 hardware versions out there.
 
Hi, I created that page hopping , users will report the devices with the usb bug :

http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Hardware_USB

noobmonkey 2010-03-13 08:59

Re: How many N900 hardware versions out there.
 
butg why would you hop? :)

barrieluv 2010-03-13 09:35

Re: How many N900 hardware versions out there.
 
RX-51 - 2101

Purchased March 2010, from Amazon UK (SIM-free).

attila77 2010-03-13 12:25

Re: How many N900 hardware versions out there.
 
As I have met a fair share of N900-es it seems they were all 2101 at least from the summit onwards, BUT there *were* differences with regard to the finish. For example my DDP N900 has matte buttons, but the one a friend bought in a local brick-and-mortar shop had (slightly) shiny ones (both are English layout kbds). Will try to take a snap of the two side by side when we meet again.

ceevee 2010-04-10 02:21

Re: How many N900 hardware versions out there.
 
RX-51 - 2101

Purchased Apr 9, 2010 from Dell

Manufacture date: 10th week 2010

ConiKost 2010-08-05 11:30

Re: How many N900 hardware versions out there.
 
It seems, that I've a new hardware revision.
Mine N900 reports 2204 as hardware revision.

Anybody knows something about this revision?

Bought August 2010 at Amazon.

attila77 2010-08-05 11:37

Re: How many N900 hardware versions out there.
 
The firmware image references a shipload of revisions (the separate rows indicate separate loader files):

*2101,2102,2103
*2104,2105,2106,2107,2108,2109,2110,2111,2112,2113 ,2114,2115,2116,2117,2118,2119
*2201,2202,2203,2204,2205,2206,2207,2208,2209,2210 ,2211,2212,2213,2214,2215,2216
*2217,2218,2219,2220,2120
*2301,2302,2303,2304,2305,2306
*2307,2308,2309,2310
*2401,2402,2403,2404,2405,2406
*2407,2408,2409,2410
*2501,2502,2503,2504,2505,2506
*2507,2508,2509,2510
*2601,2602,2603,2604,2605,2606
*2607,2608,2609,2610

How many of these might have real physical differences (some numbers might also indicate regional differences), I don't know.

Mandibela 2010-09-01 07:02

Re: How many N900 hardware versions out there.
 
I've got a "Nokia RX-51 board", Revision 2204.

HellFlyer 2010-09-01 07:36

Re: How many N900 hardware versions out there.
 
2101 here , got it from NewEgg Canada in december

guys i used xterm code and it also show interesting info about cpu, mine is revision 3, i wonder what others have and couls that affect overclocking capacity ? any thoughts?

ndi 2010-09-02 00:52

Re: How many N900 hardware versions out there.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blue_led (Post 565823)
2101 december '09 romania with all usual hardware's bonus: bright spot on display. camera haze and lag on keyboard frame

Plus One. 2101.

Also, I have a friend that bought one from Romania a month or two ago and the keyboard is very different. Buttons are more matte (mine are shinier) and there is less light visible between them. Still has the lower bar under the keyboard loose.

Still LCD spots and haze, I think those are universal. OTOH, my spots are only visible on a certain illumination level. For example, no spots on boot, with 5/5 lighting.

appnss 2010-09-02 01:29

Re: How many N900 hardware versions out there.
 
Mine is 2204 Board, non polished spanish keyboard. Bought in july, Spain.

leojab 2010-11-12 04:12

Re: How many N900 hardware versions out there.
 
Can anyone clarify as to what is the difference between the various hardware revisions? Right now, the known ones are 2101 and 2204.


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