Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

HI,

I am using Maemo Mapper version 1.4.2-5. I have flite 1.3 and proj installed.

On the announce tab, the Speed and Pitch are missing. I have a screenshot but I don't know how to get it in a post.

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

Those options were removed, since they never did anything in the first place. They were added to take advantage of moimart's dbus-based flite, which he never released. The command-line-based flite that maemo-mapper now uses does noot support the Speed and Pitch options.

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

Thank you for the prompt reply!

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

HI,

N800 using mapper ver. 1.4.2-5. Route->Download. While entering origin or destination, a windows pops up with possible matches.
I try to tap (double tap) a selection and nothing happens. I can not make a selection.

Thank you.

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

I too am having the same exact problem with v1.35 and n700. While I'm at it, is it possible to enter an address so that it can be located on the map without entering a "start" and "destination"? I've been entering the same address in both fields but I'm thinking there must be an easier way.
neil

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

Unfortunately, this is a quirk of maemo and the way it handles entry auto-completion. For some reason, you can't use the stylus to select a match. You must use the up and down hardware keys.

I don't know if they're planning to fix this...

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

hmmmm.....
Topographic maps (via proj. install for wma projection) crash mapper the moment it tries to download a map.

I am unsure if this is because my url is wrong, and I cannot find anything other than the url at the beginning of another post (mapper 1.3 announcement I think)
or if something else is the problem....

Am I the only one who has this problem?
I mean, is anyone still able to download wma topographic maps,
and if anyone can, might you be kind enough to post the url that works for you?

thanks!

dcarter

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

Hi Gnuite,

Once again thank you for the reply and for all the great work you have done with Maemo Mapper.

Do you accept contributions?

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

I was able to reproduce this problem. I'll investigate and release a fix today.

Thanks for the bug report! :)

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

Yes; there is a donate button on my Maemo Mapper home page:

http://www.gnuite.com/nokia770/maemo-mapper/

Thanks! :)

Maemo Mapper v1.4.3 Released
 

Download and Install Maemo Mapper v1.4.3

Phew. Long night. Just had to get this out the door before my work week started.

I fixed the WMS bug, and I added formal support for OpenStreetMap. The following URL formats can be used for OpenStreetMap:

Traditional "Mapnik"
http://tile.openstreetmap.org/%0d/%d/%d.png

Developmental "Osmarender"
http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/Ti.../%0d/%d/%d.png

A slew of other minor changes were made. Here's the complete Change Log, in case you're interested:

* Fixed bug that caused announcements to be late.
* Fixed bug with WMS repositories.
* Added native support for OpenStreetMap; made it the default repo.
* Added support for remapping all of the hardware keys. In doing so, I
removed the "Escape Key"-specific stuff in Misc. 2, and cleaned up that
tab a little bit (i.e. moved Info Font Size to Misc. [1]).
* Added Zoom In/Out buttons to the View menu.
* Added a scale.
* Added an About page with version information.
* Added a "Double Pixels" option for repositories; if enabled, maps will be
shown at a minimum of double the pixel size, for those who don't want to
squint.
* Added a "Next-able" option for repositories, which controls whether or not
the repository is selectable via the "Select Next Repository" shortcut.
* Changed "Track Mark" functionality back to old "Track Break" name.
* Added the ability to add waypoint-like "Marks" to the track. Marks are
like Track Breaks, except that you can give a description.
* Added some additional "first time running Maemo Mapper" help.
* Reorganized the track and route code.
* Modified timestamp to use GPS time if available.
* Changed old recursive-make-dir code to just use g_makdir_with_parents.
* Changed Repo Manager to support using ~ in the cache dir.

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

HI,

Is there a way to turn a "Track" into a "Route"?

I visited my dentist today and made a track. I know a few shortcuts that a route would not provide. The next time my daughter-in-law goes to the dentist I would give her the N800.

Thank you!

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

Tracks and routes use the same GPX format, and they are interchangeable, so just save the track to a file, then open it as a Route.

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

I want to upgrade my Maemo Mapper from v1.35 to the latest version to take advantage of the ever-increasing excellence of this app (THANKS!! Gnuite)
I am running Scirocco (39.14) and I understand that I'd have to upgade to Gregale

My questions are,

1) How difficult is it to upgrade the operating system?
2) Will I have to re-install all my existing apps?
2b) Is that hard to do?
3) Is Gregale known to be buggy? I've read where some folks had a hard time installing apps after upgrading to Gregale.

Thanks,
neil

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

Hi,

I've just run a test of Mapper with my newly received GPS. Everything worked well. Great app - thanks!

What I did was download a route to my work. That route is via main roads that I normally don't take due to traffic. Therefore I tested the auto-update functionality. I set up my Treo in DUN mode and started driving along the incorrect route. Mapper was able to simultaneously keep track of my GPS, download new routes and also update the maps a couple of times. The voice announcements got out of sync once or twice but sorted out once a new route was downloaded.

cheers,
Andrew

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

It's easy - just download Nokia's firmware update software and follow the directions.
Yes.
The hardest part is probably just keeping track of which software packages you have installed and then tracking them down after you flash the firmware. It should be sufficient to write down the list of installed applications listed in the Application Manager. You might also want to write down which repositories you have added, too.
I haven't had any trouble personally, but it's possible. Theoretically, gregale is backward-compatible with scirocco - it's the other way around where you run into problems.

(posted the same response to each of your posts)

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

i just got the n800 after selling my 770, and i have an old poi.db. i want to run that command to convert it listed earlier in this thread, but i cannot find sqlite2 or 3 for my n800.

my sources.list...

#maemo:name Nokia Catalogue
#maemo:essential
deb http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/certified/ bora user
#maemo:name Nokia Catalogue (3rd party software)
deb http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/non-certified/ bora user
#maemo:name Kernelconcepts.de
deb http://downloads.kernelconcepts.de/maemo3 bora free
#maemo:name Maemo.org extras-bora
deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ bora free non-free
#maemo:name Maemo.org
deb http://repository.maemo.org bora free non-free extras
#maemo:name Maemo Hackers
deb http://maemo-hackers.org/apt bora main
#maemo:name MUlliNER.ORG Maemo Software (Maemo 3.x)
deb http://www.mulliner.org/nokia770/repository/ bora free
#maemo:name eko.one.pl Catalogue
deb http://eko.one.pl/maemo/ bora user
#maemo:name Nokia Research Center
deb http://repository.nrcc.noklab.com/ bora extras

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

Thanks for the prompt reply, Gnuite. Since I've never flashed to a new Operating system before, please indulge this NooB a few more questions.

Once I upgrade, and re-install my apps, will I be able to import data backed up to my mmc card? For instance, I am using the gpe suite. Will I be able to import my contacts, calander, to do list, etc once I reinstall GPE? What about my Bookmarks?

Thanks,
Neil

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

Usually, it depends on the application. With GPE, I think it works fine, so long as you copy the /home/user/.gpe directory to your MMC card and then move it back after you re-flash.

I believe (don't quote me on this) that the Backup utility on the 770 works between scirocco and gregale, so doing a Backup before you reflash and then restoring that backup after you reflash will allow you to keep your bookmarks and other settings (including Maemo Mapper's settings).

I would back up your entire /home/user directory, though, just in case. That directory contains all of your user settings, and (theoretically) you could just copy your old /home/user directory over your new /home/user directory and get all your settings back. I wouldn't actually go that far, though, because some data formats may have changed. Just keep a backup of /home/user handy, so you can selectively try restoring settings on an application-by-application basis. It never hurts to back up files - if you break something trying to restore it, you can always re-flash and try again.

Good luck! :)

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

That's exactly what I did going from mistral to gregale (skipped scirocco), and it went just fine.

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

Thanks again for your prompt and comprehensive reply. Sounds like I have to "become root" in order to see and backup the /home/user/.gpe and /home/user directory ....correct?
Neil

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

Gnuite, cracking update!

Do you think ViaMicelin maps will upload - they are cartographically pleasing on the eye and easy to glance at to check progress on a journey

here's a link and an example of the HTML script:

<script src='http://www.viamichelin.fr/viamichelin/int/jsp/map/netLink.jsp?mapId=-tycqq63ovcy6dp&lang=int&dx=565&dy=255&empriseW=113 0&empriseH=510&map=http://www2.viamichelin.com/vmw2/maf/dyn/controller/NetLink?mapId=-tycqq63ovcy6dp%26lang=int%26dx=565%26dy=255%26empr iseW=1130%26empriseH=510' type='text/javascript'></script>

Also from the other week I have had some joy in extracting the MSR MapCruncher (http://research.microsoft.com/mapcruncher/) derived tiles and restoring/naming/filing them with shell script from the XML file, but as yet only for small areas ~ 15km x15 km; it slightly mandraulic, but I will tidy it up.

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

You don't have to be root (because the files are all owned by "user"), but you do have to be in an xterm. Just use:

cp -r /home/user /media/mmc1/user.bak

(replace "/media/mmc1/user.bak" with wherever you want to put the backup.)

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

Sorry if I'm being a pain, but, I guess I don't know the difference between being in root and xterm. I thought xterm was like getting a "C: Prompt "window in Msoft XP. I thought one had to install "BecomeRoot" in order to get a "C: prompt" (or $ or # or whatever).

Can anyone point me in the right direction so that I can understand this better?

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

xterm is just a window which gives you a command line. The xterm application is launched from the user interface, which is executing as the 'user' account (non-admin), and all applications launched from one account will be of the same account (user) unless special measures are taken (which is not the case for the xterm app). In other words, xterm gives you a command line for the 'user' account. In order to change to the 'root' account you have to run another privileged command from the command line, and to get that you would also need to install the 'becomeroot' package. But you don't need to be root (=administrator) to make a backup of your home directory or to write to the SD card(s).

To execute the backup command described by gnuite you must:
1) Install osso-xterm
2) Launch X Terminal application from the menu (it'll be in one of the submenus after installation of osso-xterm)
3) Enter the command (cp -r .... as described by gnuite) and return, using the keyboard that'll pop up when you start X Terminal.

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

Gnuite wrote: "I would back up your entire /home/user directory, though, just in case. That directory contains all of your user settings, and (theoretically) you could just copy your old /home/user directory over your new /home/user directory and get all your settings back."

So, fpp, do you mean that you copied /home/user directory to your mmc, upgraded to Gregale, and then copied /home/user directory back to your tablet's onboard memory? Can you please tell me the exact command to copy it back? I don't know where to copy it back to! I do know now that I have to gain root to copy it back from the mmc.

Thank you,
Neil

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

So, in xterm, I just entered:

cp -r /home/user/media/mmc1/backups/user.bak

the "reply' was:

cp: unable to create /media/mmc1/backups/user.bak .gpe-calendar-rendezvous' : operation not permitted

Hmmm. Not permitted? Any idea what's up with that?

Thanks, one step closer,

Neil

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

seems you missed a space to specify which path is source and which is destination.

cp -r /home/user/ /media/mmc1/backups/

this will recursively (-r option) copy the contents of users home dir to the mmc card, in a folder called backups that must exist prior to running the command. note the space between user/ and /media. i am not sure why your are specifying a file name for the backup, though.

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

Sorry for the confusion, but I did actually write :

cp -r /home/user /media/mmc1/user.bak

note the space between the word "user" and the "/media/etc, etc".
Do I need to have the second '/ ' sign that you inserted above after "user" ?

Also, I only specified a file name for the backup because that is how Gnuite had it in his earlier post.

Thanks,
Neil

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

the trailing / indicate explicitly that you are referencing a directory as opposed to a file. force of habit, from work. not required, but sometimes helpful.

having a file name at the end of the destination string forces the copy to write everything into one file. the data gets munged AFAIK.

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

HI,

1) When I opened the saved track file as a route I got the green route line. However, when I used it with my GPS receiver, the directions and voice were not there. (Waypoints missing?)

2) What is the difference in marks, waypoints, and poi? How is each used?

THank you.

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

Munged AFAIK? I'm afraid to ask what that means?!
Are you suggesting that I not use the file name at the end of the destination? Remember, my purpose here is to try and copy back everything after flashing to Gregale.

thanks,
Neil

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

Actually, if you are copying a directory to a location, and that location doesn't exist, then that target location is created as a directory. Yes, the trailing slash makes that more obvious, but technically it's not necessary.

nspeer, if that's the only error you got, I wouldn't worry about it. I don't know what the gpe-calendar-rendevous file is, but it's probably a special file or something, which doesn't need to be backed up.

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

A GPX file created by Maemo Mapper (whether it's a track or a route) is just an XML file with a set of trkseg elements, each of which contains a set of trkpt elements. The interpretation of the points differs slightly whether the file is opened as a track or as a route.

Each trkseg represents a different portion of the path (track or route), with a start and end point (which, incidentally, can be the same point if there is only one point in the trkseg). In a track, a start point represents where you first started getting data from a GPS receiver, and an end point represents the last point you got before communication with that GPS receiver was lost. In a route, start points represent "from" locations, and end points represent "to" locations.

If you start a track at point A, then travel to points B, C, D, and E, then turn off the GPS receiver, you have just created a track with start point A and end point E. If you save that track to a file, you will get a single trkseg element with five trkpt elements. If you then open the file as a Route, it will have a start point at A and an end point at E (with no waypoints). You could then follow that route again, at a later date, if you wanted to re-trace your steps.

On the other hand, if you downloaded a route from A to E via the "Route | Download..." menu item, the downloaded route will contain a number of "waypoints." Waypoints are just trkpt elements that have a "desc" element in them, which provides a description for the trkpt (in this case, directions telling you what to do next).

Now, what if, while you were recording your track from A to E, you wanted to add waypoints for reference later? For example, what if you made a turn at point C and wanted to mention that in the track as a waypoint? In the "Track" menu, there is an "Insert Mark" button, which asks for a description. That description gets added to your last trkpt element as a desc element, so if you save the track to a file and then load it as a route, that track mark turns into a route waypoint.

So what about "Insert Break"? Well, tracks have multiple trkseg elements when, for example, you turn off and turn on the GPS receiver multiple times. You can also have multiple trkseg elements for a route, if you (for example) load several routes from file without using the "Route | Clear" menu item. The "Insert Break" button artificially creates an end point and start point, thus creating a new trkseg element. This sort of simulates turning off and turning on a GPS receiver, and you can't add a description to this.

Unfortunately, there is no automatic way (in Maemo Mapper) to convert a track mark into a POI, but this can be done either manually or with a script. There is, however, a way in Maemo Mapper to convert a waypoint to a POI, so one way to "convert" a track mark into a POI is to save your track to a file, load the track as a route, then tap-and-hold on a waypoint and select "Waypoint | Add POI". Still a hassle, I know, but hopefully this will improve.

In summary, a "track" defines where you have been, and a "route" defines where you want to go. A "description" in a track is called a "mark", and a description in a "route" is called a "waypoint", but otherwise, tracks and routes are interchangeable.

Hope this helps.

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

Hi Gnuite,

OK. A "waypoint" is description in a route. Directions.

OK. A "mark" is a description in a track. A saved track file loaded as route turns a "mark into a "waypoint" So far I am following. At this point I thought I had directions in the route. Then:

Now, you just lost me. We have been talking about "marks" and "waypoints". Now we are talking about POI. How did POI sneek in here?:)

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

You are right; POI is a completely different subject, and it actually has nothing to do with tracks or routes or how they are stored in a file.

Someone had asked in a separate thread about how to convert track marks into POI. I thought it would be useful to mention here, in case someone else wanted to know.

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

HI,

Does any one know which maps and routing service is used by http://www.mapquest.com/

Thank you!

Maemo Mapper v1.4.4 Released
 

Download and Install Maemo Mapper v1.4.4

v1.4.4 is a minor release with just a few small bug fixes, plus updated Finnish translations.

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4.3 Released
 

Great work, Gnuite. Thanks!

Closing bug #492 then...

POI icons
 

I'm working on my semi-transparent poi icons to share with everyone and I wonder about the filename for the category "shopping/services" - what should I do about the slash? It's on a FAT filesystem, so I don't think a slash is a valid filename character. I tried "shoppingservices.jpg" "shopping-services.jpg" and "shopping.jpg" and maemo mapper silently ignores 'em.

So I just looked at through the code to figure out what to do. It uses g_utf8_strdown to convert the name of the category to lower case before looking for the file, but it doesn't bother with illegal file character conversion.

So one workaround is to change the name of the poi category in the code for the next version and go into sqlite3 on the tablet and change the name there to match. I'm not sure what the database name is though. Not really a sql expert anyway.

A better(?) solution would be to implement an illegal filename character conversion function that just made the "/" into a "-" or some other benign character before searching for the file.

Anybody have any thoughts on this?