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Fargus 2010-03-10 08:57
Re: MMS - is it true - will not be supported by Nokia.
 
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Originally Posted by barc0de (Post 562032)
Considering the power of the platform I see no other reason besides laziness in creating an integrated MMS solution. I mean how hard can it be for Nokia?

The N900 may be an internet tablet but the fact remains that it's also a phone. Customers have come to expect certain standards for the phones they buy and the whole point of this is to get the best of Both worlds.
MMS requires a shed load of related technologies underneath to work as I am sure the developer of the fMMS package will be more than happy to tell you.

Nokia is a huge organisation but the Maemo team are a tiny part of that. The device has a number of issues that need to be resolved. As MMS was never stated as a supported feature I would suspect that fixing issuses with stated features makes more sense first.

eitama 2010-03-10 09:05
Re: MMS - is it true - will not be supported by Nokia.
 
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Originally Posted by chrisp7 (Post 562207)
I knew the N900 wouldnt have MMS and was very happy to wait it out as the implication from Nokia was that it was a work in progress and that MMS would be added later, portait mode etc. It turns out that MMS now WONT be added and the brainstorm community ISNT creating apps. The N900 isnt in a good state imo. If the next firmware update isnt a massive step forward (which it wont be) Im selling, it so sad, the N900 has/d MASSIVE potential and Nokia seem to have dropped the ball for consumers...again.
Chrisp7 :

I understand you completely. I feel the same way.
I am missing many things which were standard in my N95.
I can also do some stuff that I could not do in my N95.

For those claiming Chrisp and I didn't do enough research before buying the phone, There were posts and videos about MMS and Portrait mode being developed and that they will be added later.

About other peeps suggesting the usage of fMMS,
fMMS is not seamless, it's good, but not as we would want it to be.
I'd like the ability to spontaneously send PICs and SOUNDs to a lot of friends without the need to connect to an access point, and send. And to receive without having to do anything!

MMS is good, cause right now there is no alternative which is adopted commonly enough, to start excluding MMS.

You have DVD, Blueray, FlashMemoryCards - And you still use Compact Discs don't you?

twaelti 2010-03-10 09:32
Re: MMS - is it true - will not be supported by Nokia.
 
It's wrong. Nokia supports frals in making fMMS good for Maemo 5 :-)

I like MMS, I want MMS - and I think that fMMS might well achieve a "good enough" functionality soon. Conversations integration is not that important, it will be enough if the connection switching happens automatically. And this seems to be on the roadmap.
(did you know that you can already send photos with fMMS directly from the photo app using the Share function?)

m1cke 2010-03-10 09:39
Re: MMS - is it true - will not be supported by Nokia.
 
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Originally Posted by noobmonkey (Post 562193)
If people are that annoyed that it doesn't have it... you didn't do your research, and you didn't get the right device for you...

:D Simples......
Thats what I was saying.. Nokia reps said it would get implemented. So I knew I had to wait for it but now it seems it is not coming.. belive me I knew what i was getting.

Hopefully frals (with help from Nokia) can get it fully implemented..

noobmonkey 2010-03-10 09:40
Re: MMS - is it true - will not be supported by Nokia.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisp7 (Post 562207)
I knew the N900 wouldnt have MMS and was very happy to wait it out as the implication from Nokia was that it was a work in progress and that MMS would be added later, portait mode etc. It turns out that MMS now WONT be added and the brainstorm community ISNT creating apps. The N900 isnt in a good state imo. If the next firmware update isnt a massive step forward (which it wont be) Im selling, it so sad, the N900 has/d MASSIVE potential and Nokia seem to have dropped the ball for consumers...again.

Hmmm sorry still don't agree with you....

Fmms is going well... it's improved ten fold in a month, and there is no reason why it can't be integrated. - Frals has discussed this :D

The brainstorm community is an interesting one... I agree not everything is being done, but as the device and OS is still new... The developers most likely are working on their first apps? - or apps they specifically want.

So in my case for example i created a brainstorm for a healthcheck idea - and my first app - is a healthcheck app :D - nothing saying i wont delve into brainstorm later and pick other ideas i like :D

I feel that you are going to read into the state of things as you wish :D - your perogative - i'm very excited about the future of the N900 :D

eitama 2010-03-10 09:42
Re: MMS - is it true - will not be supported by Nokia.
 
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Originally Posted by twaelti (Post 562253)
It's wrong. Nokia supports frals in making fMMS good for Maemo 5 :-)

I like MMS, I want MMS - and I think that fMMS might well achieve a "good enough" functionality soon. Conversations integration is not that important, it will be enough if the connection switching happens automatically. And this seems to be on the roadmap.
(did you know that you can already send photos with fMMS directly from the photo app using the Share function?)
If fMMS will be able to change connection, send the photo, and reconnect to the other connection + receive MMS without any action needed, i'll be completely satisfied, I don't need integration with conversation window, more over, I don't use MMS that much, and so adding to conversation window will just be a waste (:

noobmonkey 2010-03-10 09:45
Re: MMS - is it true - will not be supported by Nokia.
 
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Originally Posted by eitama (Post 562264)
If fMMS will be able to change connection, send the photo, and reconnect to the other connection + receive MMS without any action needed, i'll be completely satisfied, I don't need integration with conversation window, more over, I don't use MMS that much, and so adding to conversation window will just be a waste (:
I agree - getting the connection issues sorted is probably the final bug for most :D - as a proof of concept i think its pretty amazing :D

rash.m2k 2010-03-10 09:56
Re: MMS - is it true - will not be supported by Nokia.
 
Maybe they have said they won't support MMS in maemo 5 - thats fine BUT in the development timeline/map of Maemo 6/Meego it will be implemented.

Full MMS support WILL come to the N900 via Maemo 6/MeeGo. It just doesn't compute for Nokia NOT to do it!

noobmonkey 2010-03-10 10:30
Re: MMS - is it true - will not be supported by Nokia.
 
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Originally Posted by rash.m2k (Post 562283)
Maybe they have said they won't support MMS in maemo 5 - thats fine BUT in the development timeline/map of Maemo 6/Meego it will be implemented.

Full MMS support WILL come to the N900 via Maemo 6/MeeGo. It just doesn't compute for Nokia NOT to do it!
Not that i'm disagreeing, but do you have a link with proof on that one :D

rash.m2k 2010-03-10 10:36
Re: MMS - is it true - will not be supported by Nokia.
 
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Originally Posted by noobmonkey (Post 562315)
Not that i'm disagreeing, but do you have a link with proof on that one :D
I don't have any proof, but I simply cannot comprehend it. It just doesn't make sense! A top of the range N series phone without MMS support? Without Video calling?

No, I don't see it staying this way for long.


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