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JohnLF 2010-03-17 17:19

Over 5 million downloads!
 
Over 5 millions downloads as of today - and some people say that Maemo is not popular! :D

77h 2010-03-18 12:45

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I have seen Peters tweet and am shocked at the really low number. Most people on Talk Maemo have surely downloaded in excess of 30 aps. It seems Nokia did not even sell 1 mio N900 or the number of downloads would be far higher.

nidO 2010-03-18 12:51

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Originally Posted by 77h (Post 571820)
I have seen Peters tweet and am shocked at the really low number. Most people on Talk Maemo have surely downloaded in excess of 30 aps. It seems Nokia did not even sell 1 mio N900 or the number of downloads would be far higher.

You seem to be rather disollusioned about some numbers here. If Nokia sold anything like a million of these internet tablets in 4-5 months i'd eat my house, this isn't a mass marked device so why would you expect sales to be enormous? The Nexus One has been on sale since christmas, and sales for that have only slightly nudged about 100,000 - It took the Droid 2 and a half months to make a million sales, and that was a massively hyped mass-market device intended for everyone. The N900 is a niche internet tablet with a phone built into it, and you expect record-busting mass-market sales numbers?
Also note: t.m.o only has 35,000 users - if each and every single one of those owns an n900 and downloads 30 apps, you're still only at 1 million downloads.

vvaz 2010-03-18 12:53

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According to some sources Nokia's management gave only resources to produce 100.000 units of N900 per month.

77h 2010-03-18 12:54

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"T-Mobile USA is currently the fourth-largest wireless carrier in the U.S. market with 33.4 million customers"

and yes I was expecting the N900 to sell about a million devices in half a year considering it is sold in more than 20 countries and is heavily marketed towards end users at least in the UK.

*edit* nexus one is only sold online and as far as I know was until very recent ONLY sold in USA and perhaps UK

bousch 2010-03-18 13:13

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Originally Posted by 77h (Post 571840)
and yes I was expecting the N900 to sell about a million devices in half a year considering it is sold in more than 20 countries and is heavily marketed towards end users at least in the UK.

That surprised me indeed. When I was at LHR airport 6 weeks ago there where big billboards showing the N900. In the months before I saw nothing about the N900 in Japan, Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, Malasia, Thailand and The Netherlands.

And it still seems to be not marketed at all here in The Netherlands

benny1967 2010-03-18 13:18

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Originally Posted by vvaz (Post 571838)
According to some sources Nokia's management gave only resources to produce 100.000 units of N900 per month.

This is a story I hear quite often... usually like: "They had planned to produce 30.000 a month but had to do 100.000/month because of the high demand, which they hadn't expected."

I find myself telling this story to other people, still I never found a real source for it. Are we creating our own forum-myth here or is there any source for these figures?

SubCore 2010-03-18 13:26

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t.m.o = talk.maemo.org, not t-mobile :)

77h 2010-03-18 13:29

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first time i read this

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According to some sources Nokia's management gave only resources to produce 100.000 units of N900 per month.
was in January. Surely if the N900 would be really successful they would have the possibility to produce more.

Amazon.de and amazon.com have the N900 in stock but what surprised me was that thecarphonewarehouse.com (one of the big phone retailers in Britain) does not heavily advertises it on its site anymore like the did in January

NvyUs 2010-03-18 13:34

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the n900 is not heavily advertised in UK, a few posters on london tube and at Heathrow is hardly a campaign.
in the rest of the UK theres been zero real world advertising

benny1967 2010-03-18 13:42

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Originally Posted by 77h (Post 571884)
Surely if the N900 would be really successful they would have the possibility to produce more.

Define "success".

If it's true that they planned to produce/sell 30.000 per month (based on previous market research) and now need to produce 100.000/month to keep up with the demand, it's a phenomenal success.

JohnLF 2010-03-18 13:48

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Hmm, I bought mine in January I think from the CPW - big posters of it all over the shop. These have now been replaced by big posters of the Nokia X6.
Anyway, pleased as punch with mine, especially as I very nearly bought the N97 mini until I saw it.
Maybe they will advertise it more when they feel it is stable - perhaps with PR1.2? If not then, it will be too late as the market will have moved on.
Here's to a Nokia 910 with a slightly larger screen, more RAM, and larger rootfs. Oh, and a working OviMaps 3 too ;)

StOoZ 2010-03-18 13:51

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dont care what ppl say....I LOVE MY N900!!!

Maj3stic 2010-03-18 13:53

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There has been no advertising campaign whatsoever here in Canada or none I know of anyways , people ask me everyday what kind of phone it is and where i got it from. Regardless of how many units were sold or if it was a success or not 5 million downloads is quite impressive for this tight community we have and that's a nice plus for maemo.org soo WOOHOOO!

vkv.raju 2010-03-18 14:13

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It's not even announced (forget about advertising it) in India and still I know a lot of people who happily own it.
The truth is "the device chooses its owner" :)

I am happy that the N900 chose me :)

cpm 2010-03-18 14:16

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I saw half-page ads in The Telegraph (UK newspaper) a few months ago, over several days.

johnel 2010-03-18 14:42

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Quote:

I have seen Peters tweet and am shocked at the really low number. Most people on Talk Maemo have surely downloaded in excess of 30 aps. It seems Nokia did not even sell 1 mio N900 or the number of downloads would be far higher.
For chist's sake only in this forum would someone complain 5 million is not high enough!!

That's like winning 1 million quid in the lottery and saying "I only won 1 million pounds I wanted 5 million - what a disaster, I'll never be successful!!"

navsin 2010-03-18 14:54

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A quick question... Does this number of downloads also include the firmware upgrades?

77h 2010-03-18 15:38

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@johnel

we are speaking about
* FREE downloads
* from a manufacturer who has around 40% smart phone marketshare
* the ONLY Handset with a Cortex A8 (decent) processor from this manufacturer
compare this to
1.5 million downloads per day for OVI
3 billion downloads to date for the iPhone
no number found for android

johnel 2010-03-18 16:03

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Originally Posted by 77h (Post 572053)
@johnel

we are speaking about
* FREE downloads
* from a manufacturer who has around 40% smart phone marketshare
* the ONLY Handset with a Cortex A8 (decent) processor from this manufacturer
compare this to
1.5 million downloads per day for OVI
3 billion downloads to date for the iPhone
no number found for android


True, Nokia has a 40% (and shrinking depending who you listen to) market share but consider that most of that share is Symbian-based not Maemo. The only "phone" with Maemo is the n900. Maemo's market share is miniscule compared to Symbian phones.

The 1.5 million downloads is directly related to Nokia's marketshare. OVI supports many Nokia phones so the vast majority is for Symbian.

There has only really been "one" iPhone and many "revisions" of the hardware. The number of downloads is much larger. However Apple's definition of "application" downloads is very loose.

Android is almost certainly larger than 5 million downloads. Again this comes down to the "single" OS of android-based devices. Many manufacturers have produced android devices which means the market share of android is much larger.

msa 2010-03-18 16:09

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these numbers are really impressive for maemo-based devices.
i guess that shows that we are the most sophisticated community :D *being proud*

mece 2010-03-18 16:10

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The downloads is from extras only, which is not even enabled out of the box. Ovi store and firmware dl:s are not counted. I think 5M downloads of community software is pretty spectacular.

vvaz 2010-03-18 16:12

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Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 571874)
I find myself telling this story to other people, still I never found a real source for it. Are we creating our own forum-myth here or is there any source for these figures?

This is the same story :) Also was thinking about possibility of being it urban legend but IMO it fits nicely with Nokia's management attitude towards Maemo, 'steep 4 of 5' and fact that negotiations with Intel about MeeGo was in advanced stage long before N900 release.

Rob1n 2010-03-18 16:15

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Originally Posted by mece (Post 572091)
The downloads is from extras only, which is not even enabled out of the box.

It's been enabled by default since PR1.1, so I'd expect it to be enabled out of the box for a while now.

mece 2010-03-18 16:23

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Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 572100)
It's been enabled by default since PR1.1, so I'd expect it to be enabled out of the box for a while now.

I stand corrcted.

Rauha 2010-03-18 16:56

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Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 571874)
This is a story I hear quite often... usually like: "They had planned to produce 30.000 a month but had to do 100.000/month because of the high demand, which they hadn't expected."

I find myself telling this story to other people, still I never found a real source for it. Are we creating our own forum-myth here or is there any source for these figures?

The source is a respected british market analysis firm, that is considered to be expert on issues relating to Nokia. (IIRC) The figure was mentioned in a pay-to-read report and there's no publicly viewable source/link.

Freemantle 2010-03-19 02:54

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Originally Posted by JohnLF (Post 570755)
Over 5 millions downloads as of today - and some people say that Maemo is not popular! :D

Hi, is there a breakdown of this number?

i.e. unique downloads, downloads of upgrades, extras, -testing, -devel, etc, etc.


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