opensource application that may allow us to run windows applications on the n900
 

QtEmu is an opensource application that uses Qemu and KVM to run virtual machines...

http://qtemu.org/

http://qtemu.org/sites/default/files...t7.preview.png

What do you guys make of this?

Re: opensource application that may allow us to run windows applications on the n900
 

It is -possible- but painfully slow in practice.

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Interesting. However, I don't think it would run WIndows 7 very well. :(
Perhaps it is worth to try an older version (98 or XP?), but it wil be slow to boot, and slow to do anything.

However if it isn't too sluggish after boot, it may be useful for some scenarios. (Such as using MS Office and such.)

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how about running another light Linux version VM that could in turn run wine, hence run all sorts of windows apps...

here is a list of apps (expand categories) that wine can run:
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManage...e+Applications

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How about running native wine with patched user-qemu for running the native win32 executable ONLY, which is the only sane way to handle this, instead of the entire OS?

(and of course instead of daydreaming over a GUI to components that are already on the N900 ... ).

The last time I looked at it, patches for ARM Winelib support were being already merged in. I'm pretty sure that by now Wine compiles for ARM.

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"KVM (for Kernel-based Virtual Machine) is a full virtualization solution for Linux on x86 hardware containing virtualization extensions (Intel VT or AMD-V)."

Even if there were Virtualization extensions on ARM, how many Windows 32 ARM applications do you know? :)

And Qemu without KVM would be almost like running Bochs...

Re: opensource application that may allow us to run windows applications on the n900
 

So something along the lines of Apple's Rosetta, only for ARM Linux instead of x86 OS X? I like it.

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Or like the older Darwine.

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how about vmware???

see this http://www.rockinmaemo.dk/?p=57
& this
http://www.slashgear.com/nokia-n800-...-demo-2635750/

Re: opensource application that may allow us to run windows applications on the n900
 

there are efforts to cross execute x86 on N900, with limited success

for some people, the objective is wine+qemu

in example, see this thread: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=43480

there are other threads, too

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windows 7 can run on a older computer with lower specs than this phone i saw something on tome hardware a pentuim II and theres a video on youtube of it running on a 600mhz computer

Re: opensource application that may allow us to run windows applications on the n900
 

Check out
http://www.vmware.com/products/mobile/features.html

Re: opensource application that may allow us to run windows applications on the n900
 

True, but Windows is written for x86.
The N900 has an ARM processor, so its 600 MHz won't mean much when emulating x86.

Re: opensource application that may allow us to run windows applications on the n900
 

What about the "Wine is not an emulator" stuff?

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This really shows a complete lack of understanding of the work invovled! The Pentium chip is the same instruction set in hardware (allbeit a subset) whereas the Cortex in the N900 is totally different architecture let alone instruction set! Emmulation of pcode instructions in software is horrifically slow in comparison. Processor clock speed is not a sensible comparison except within processors of the same class!

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If you look at my post you'll note I said "wine+patched qemu".

The plan would be not to run wine entirely under qemu (good luck; and the performance will suck), but patch the wine native executable loader to use this modified qemu (thus the actual wine code being _arm_, and thus the reason an arm-building wine is needed).

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Wait for a MeeGo device that runs on x86... then there's a higher chance that we'll get something useable in this dept.

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Looks like VMware MVP (previously know as Trango) only uses 20kb of memory on the old nokia tablets...

I wonder if there is an old copy floating about on the web from the Trango days which we could get it to work on the N900...

I have been able to track then down under the previous website here... I'm continue my search...:cool:

Re: opensource application that may allow us to run windows applications on the n900
 

Virtual Machine managers do not emmulate hardware instructions. You can still only run programmes that the underlying chipset understands.

Re: opensource application that may allow us to run windows applications on the n900
 

Two words: Abstraction Layers.

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Just found what seems to be another similar project as the VMWare MVP...

From what I have seen these people were in direct competition with Trango before VMware aquired Trango...

web site can be found here
http://www.ok-labs.com/

See this presentation
http://www.youtube.com/user/OpenKern.../4/AbXX1IcL74c

Also someone here asked them if OKL4 would be able to run on the N810
and someone pointed them to the following video presentation:
http://www.ok-labs.com/blog/entry/qu...tform-related/

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Seriously.... virtualization is most probably NOT what you want; you want either what I described or plain emulation.

(While we're at it I don't know why anyone would want virtualization on their phone either, but I guess that's why I don't work in marketing :) ).