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Milhouse 2007-02-20 22:04

OS 2007 on 770 mk2 now available
 
Carlos Guerreiro's blog post: http://www.notacloud.com/blog/?p=28

Quote:

Hi,

An update to the OS 2007 / 770 hacker edition is now available for download at http://maemo.org/downloads/os2007_hacker_edition.php.

The main news is that sound is now working including media and system sounds.

Video works to some extent, though not the sample clip that comes with the image which is intended for the N800.

VOIP calls work too.

This time it’s a fiasco image. You can flash it in the same way as official releases.

This is described in Markku’s notes (http://maemo.org/maemowiki/Os2007On770) which are up-to-date with the latest developments.

There are still many glitches here and there, instability and performance problems, but with media capabilities this image is much more attractive.

Help is appreciated. Markku’s notes are open to contributions. Additions and corrections are welcome, including suggestions for addressing the remaining issues.

Problem reports specific to this release are welcome as well and should go to this Garage project (https://garage.maemo.org/projects/os2007on770).
Not to the Maemo bugzilla and definitely not to any Nokia support. There is no official support for this.

Finally, patches are most welcome, preferably attached to the Garage project's (https://garage.maemo.org/projects/os2007on770) tracker.

Enjoy,
Carlos
Might be time to start testing... :)

Milhouse 2007-02-20 23:00

Re: OS 2007 on 770 mk2 now available
 
Well I've installed it on my 770 and so far it's looking very good!

I haven't tested much, but the browser (which obviously hasn't been updated) seems to be working fine, control panel seems OK, the home page is as it should be.

The first problem I've hit is that it's not possible to stream from AccuRadio HitKast - the error is "File format not supported" (have reported this in Garage).

No crashes so far! :)

EDIT: Hmmm, looks like MP3 codec won't be shipped in the OS 2007 on 770 firmware - according to the end of Markku's Wiki log:

Quote:

Things that cannot be shipped to 770 users

These things in OS 2007 are not licensed for 770 and cannot be shipped to 770 users. Therefore they are taken out of the image:
  • New browser engine
  • Feature MP3 codec, mobile phones - this is a DSP codec - according to Makoto and Andrea it is however the same as in the 770...
  • Feature MPEG4 visual encoder - this is a DSP codec that has to be removed - it's packaged as gstreamer-hantro or something


fanoush 2007-03-02 12:22

Re: OS 2007 on 770 mk2 now available
 
I tried OS2007 on N770 too and I am seriously impressed.

It works and gave new life to my N770. So far everything I use (browser, media player, internet radio applet, osso-xterm) works fine. Even the browser (still old opera) has newer (IMO much better) interface and networking/browsing seems to be a bit faster to me. My webmail took long time from login to inbox in OS2006 (probably due to lot of redirects) but is as quick with OS2007 as on my N800 :-)

And what is also nice - you can dualboot between OS2006 and 2007 to have best of both worlds. Of course until OS2007 is better supported by applications because then OS2006 will be obsolete.

BTW if you have latest OS2006 and bootmenu installed you can just extract rootfs.jffs2 from FIASCO image and flash just this and do not lose bootmenu.

Yes OS2007 on N770 is unsupported but what does support mean exactly in this case? Are your favourite OS2006 bugs fixed? :-)

Milhouse 2007-03-02 14:52

Re: OS 2007 on 770 mk2 now available
 
I agree fanoush - it works suprisingly well. In fact, so well it would be nice to think it might even be worthy of ongoing/official support (something pink just floated past my window...)

:)

fpp 2007-03-02 16:44

Re: OS 2007 on 770 mk2 now available
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fanoush (Post 37341)
And what is also nice - you can dualboot between OS2006 and 2007 to have best of both worlds.

I have the latest 2006OS and boot from MMC (using Sebastian's Howto).
How does one get from there to dual-booting between 2006 and 2007 ?...
TIA
fp

Milhouse 2007-03-02 17:01

Re: OS 2007 on 770 mk2 now available
 
You will need to flash OS 2007 on the 770 then copy it to the MMC card. Having done that you then need to reflash with OS 2006. You should now be in a situation where you have OS 2006 on your internal flash and OS 2007 on your MMC card.

As fanoush says, flash only rootfs from each OS image to avoid losing your existing initfs.

fanoush 2007-03-02 18:27

Re: OS 2007 on 770 mk2 now available
 
If you do not want to lose OS2006 in flash you can backup it first via mkfs.jffs2 (when booted from mmc) as mentioned here http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...8&postcount=31 , then reflash with OS2007 rootfs, clone it to mmc (if you have some spare partition on mmc) and reflash again with previous OS2006 backup. Sadly extracting jffs2 image directly to mmc is not that easy.

fpp 2007-03-02 19:04

Re: OS 2007 on 770 mk2 now available
 
Thanks to both for the pointers. First I'll need a bigger MMC though, 1 gig is not going to cut it for all that :-)

Modulok 2007-03-08 09:42

Re: OS 2007 on 770 mk2 now available
 
I tried the Hacker Edition and it look very good and it feels much faster than OS 2006.
The question is only what I can install on it. I was not able to install the enhanced osso-xterm because liaux0 was missing. This lib was not needed for the OS 2006. I tried offline since I have no wlan at home.

elpaso 2007-03-08 09:51

Re: OS 2007 on 770 mk2 now available
 
Just in case somebody missed it, to enable internet radio streams:

https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/ind...d=164&atid=681

Milhouse 2007-03-08 14:36

Re: OS 2007 on 770 mk2 now available
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Modulok (Post 38096)
I tried the Hacker Edition and it look very good and it feels much faster than OS 2006.
The question is only what I can install on it. I was not able to install the enhanced osso-xterm because liaux0 was missing. This lib was not needed for the OS 2006. I tried offline since I have no wlan at home.

Enhanced xterm worked fine for me with OS 2007/770 - did you install from the Bora repository? It was the first app that I installed so should install without a problem on a freshly flashed device.

gnuite 2007-03-08 16:09

Re: OS 2007 on 770 mk2 now available
 
Would someone with OS2007on770 mind testing Maemo Mapper to see if it works in that environment? I imagine you have to install it from the bora repository (as opposed to the gregale repo)... Just knowing that it installs and starts up (with a blank screen) is fine. Map downloading and bluetooth GPS receiver communication would be a bonus, if possible.

Thank you in advance.

serge48 2007-03-08 18:39

Re: OS 2007 on 770 mk2 now available
 
gnuite,
Thank you for your masterpiece and I’m really surprised that you are still interested in such “rare species” as OS2007on770.

Mapper was the third application installed on OS2007on770 (after becomeroot and xterm). Installation for 1.4.2-5 went fine and everything but “second bonus” works OK. (I’ve tested map downloading for Googlemap only).

Unfortunately maemo-mapper is exited with “Invalid instruction” error in the following cases:
- successful connect to BT-GPS;
- load stored track or route;

Sorry, did not test much further, because looks like it is FPU instruction caused application exit.

thigh bone 2007-03-29 09:40

Re: OS 2007 on 770 mk2 now available
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by serge48 (Post 38182)
Unfortunately maemo-mapper is exited with “Invalid instruction” error in the following cases:
- successful connect to BT-GPS;
- load stored track or route;

Sorry, did not test much further, because looks like it is FPU instruction caused application exit.

anybody got any further with this?

rachid 2007-03-30 11:12

Re: OS 2007 on 770 mk2 now available
 
wow
i am using my n770 everyday quite heavy and i am impressed how stable it is with the os2007 hacker edition!
i will be very happy if nokia will continue the os2007 hacker edition!

thanks a lot
Rachid

mrp 2007-03-30 12:20

Re: OS 2007 on 770 mk2 now available
 
Just to make sure before trying. I now have boot menu on latest 2006, with latest 2006 on MC. Can I simply flash 2007 hacker edition, install boot menu, and start 2007 on internal flash and, if needed, 2006 OS from MC?

elpaso 2007-03-30 13:39

Re: OS 2007 on 770 mk2 now available
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gnuite (Post 38154)
Would someone with OS2007on770 mind testing Maemo Mapper to see if it works in that environment? I imagine you have to install it from the bora repository (as opposed to the gregale repo)... Just knowing that it installs and starts up (with a blank screen) is fine. Map downloading and bluetooth GPS receiver communication would be a bonus, if possible.

Thank you in advance.

Sorry, I did'nt notice your post.

Yes, I tested maemo mapper with OS2007 HE on N770:
it works fine with 1.4.4-2 while 1.4.4-3 segfaults at start.

fanoush 2007-03-30 16:39

Re: OS 2007 on 770 mk2 now available
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrp (Post 41958)
Just to make sure before trying. I now have boot menu on latest 2006, with latest 2006 on MC. Can I simply flash 2007 hacker edition, install boot menu, and start 2007 on internal flash and, if needed, 2006 OS from MC?

Yes, you can. Or you can just extract rootfs from .bin image and flash it via linux flasher. When done like this you don't even lose the menu.

mrp 2007-03-31 10:03

Re: OS 2007 on 770 mk2 now available
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fanoush (Post 41996)
Yes, you can. Or you can just extract rootfs from .bin image and flash it via linux flasher. When done like this you don't even lose the menu.

thanks Fanoush. Extracted rootfs and flashed it. At first sight hacker version seems pretty nice

video streaming (from Twonky) with Canola seems not to be working

fanoush 2007-04-01 13:23

Re: OS 2007 on 770 mk2 now available
 
Anyone tried something SDL based on this? Tried scummvm and it crashes when initializing sound
Code:

~ $ /usr/games/scummvm
dsp_protocol_open_node(): Could not open pcm device file /dev/dsptask/pcm3
WARNING: Can not find theme config file 'modern.ini'!
WARNING: Could not initialize your preferred theme, falling back to classic style!
Looking for sky
Trying to start game 'Beneath a Steel Sky'
dsp_protocol_open_node(): Could not open pcm device file /dev/dsptask/pcm3
Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)
~

It it just me or it really doesn't work? What about other SDL based apps?

fanoush 2007-04-01 18:53

Re: OS 2007 on 770 mk2 now available
 
OK, reported in garage project tracker
https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/ind...d=164&atid=681
and found a fix, see the URL, hopefully it seems to be configuration issue (if pcm2 is not needed for something else)

thigh bone 2007-04-10 10:56

Re: MM on OS 2007 on 770
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thigh bone (Post 41777)
anybody got any further with this?

replying to myself...

I tried building maemo mapper with debug enabled to investigate this, but the version i built never crashed!

So I rebuilt with debug back off and it keeps on working! Not a single crash so far (in about 2 weeks of usage) which is much better than on the same version of MM on 2006! On 2006 I used to get a crash on pretty much every long journey I took.

So yet another reason 2007on770 is much better than 2006 for me!

ArnimS 2007-04-30 00:16

Re: OS 2007 on 770 mk2 now available
 
Thank you for that tip to get sdl pcm working. It is as follows:

As root, edit /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf and replace both occurrences of "pcm3" by "pcm2".

The only other problem i've found so far is that my Thinkoutside Stowaway BT keyboard refuses to pair with it.

I open control panel -> bluetooth

I select "New". "Select a device" panel comes up.

I hold down CTRL-FN-FN a couple of seconds and it finds Think Outside Keyboard.

I click on the think Outside Keyboard item in the 'Select a device' list

"Pair with device" menu comes up and gives a code to enter, and trusted device is checked

I click OK

'Pairing' status window comes up.

I enter the 4-Digit code number and wait: in various tries I get either an error "Pairing failed. Device resources exceeded. Try again? or Authentication failed.

(edit) just tried it again and found i have to hit the Enter (Return) key after entering the code number. Sheesh :) PBCAK

------

The UI is so much slicker. From an audio designer standpoint the clicking sound when you touch the screen is a sharp sound like hitting a nice hard crystal, instead of a piece of cardboard. Funny how these associations colour the feel of the device. Also the dark theme is way cool. Loving it :)

poulsone 2007-05-26 14:23

Re: MM on OS 2007 on 770
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thigh bone (Post 43597)
replying to myself...

I tried building maemo mapper with debug enabled to investigate this, but the version i built never crashed!

So I rebuilt with debug back off and it keeps on working! Not a single crash so far (in about 2 weeks of usage) which is much better than on the same version of MM on 2006! On 2006 I used to get a crash on pretty much every long journey I took.

So yet another reason 2007on770 is much better than 2006 for me!

I'm getting the "Illegal instruction" on connecting to the gps. Does anyone have any more insight on this? If the version of MM you built works, can I try a copy of it?

Thanks!

thigh bone 2007-05-26 20:38

Re: MM on OS 2007 on 770
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by poulsone (Post 49829)
I'm getting the "Illegal instruction" on connecting to the gps. Does anyone have any more insight on this? If the version of MM you built works, can I try a copy of it?

Thanks!

they're a couple of months old now, but i've put the builds i did here

poulsone 2007-05-27 04:17

Re: MM on OS 2007 on 770
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thigh bone (Post 49857)
they're a couple of months old now, but i've put the builds i did here

Thanks! Yours works for me too. Now we have to guess what's different between your setup and gnuite's (or convince gnuite to make the switch to hacker edition)

dcy 2007-06-02 13:01

Re: OS 2007 on 770 mk2 now available
 
I tried both the official maemo-mapper and the smuckles version, but have hit a dependency problem: reportedly, libosso-help0 >=2.0.8 is needed. Any clue ? Thanks

D.

poulsone 2007-06-02 15:14

Re: OS 2007 on 770 mk2 now available
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dcy (Post 50717)
I tried both the official maemo-mapper and the smuckles version, but have hit a dependency problem: reportedly, libosso-help0 >=2.0.8 is needed. Any clue ? Thanks

D.

I had this problem too. If I remember correctly, I solved it by adding a bunch of repositories. I'm not sure which one provided the needed package. My /etc/apt/sources.list is:

Code:

#maemo:name Nokia Catalogue
#maemo:essential
##deb http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/certified/ bora user

#maemo:name Nokia Catalogue (3rd party software)
deb http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/non-certified/ bora user

#maemo:name Kernelconcepts.de
deb http://downloads.kernelconcepts.de/maemo3 bora free

#maemo:name Maemo.org extras-bora
deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ bora free non-free

#maemo:name Maemo.org
deb http://repository.maemo.org bora free non-free extras

#maemo:name Maemo Hackers
deb http://maemo-hackers.org/apt bora main

#maemo:name Contrib
deb http://repository.maemo.org/contrib bora free

#maemo:name MUlliNER.ORG Maemo Software (Maemo 3.x)
deb http://www.mulliner.org/nokia770/repository/ bora free


dcy 2007-06-06 06:49

Re: OS 2007 on 770 mk2 now available
 
That worked, thank you very much!

dcarter 2007-07-05 01:15

Re: OS 2007 on 770 mk2 now available
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by elpaso (Post 38099)
Just in case somebody missed it, to enable internet radio streams:

https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/ind...d=164&atid=681

OK- I can't seem to make radio streaming work on OS2007 HE for N770.

I installed X-Term, and issue the following command:
gconftool-2 --set /apps/osso/osso_media_server/demux_audio/a
pplication_x-icy --type list --list-type string
'[application/x-icy,icydemux]'

...that gives multiple errors, so I try to break it up:

gconftool-2
...works

set /apps/osso/osso_media_server/demux_audio/a
pplication_x-icy
...works

but then the "type list" command gives an error,
and I still get a "file format not supported" error when trying to stream radio.

Any help would be appreciated...I can't be the only one who has failed to make this little hack work, can I?

dcarter

fanoush 2007-07-05 08:19

Re: OS 2007 on 770 mk2 now available
 
It is one command so you should type it on single line like this
Code:

gconftool-2 --set /apps/osso/osso_media_server/demux_audio/application_x-icy --type list --list-type string '[application/x-icy,icydemux]'

dcarter 2007-07-05 08:29

Re: OS 2007 on 770 mk2 now available
 
ooo.

O_o

Right.......1 line.......how dull of me!!
Thanks fanoush. I love your scripts.

dcarter

momcilo 2007-07-08 21:11

Re: OS 2007 on 770 mk2 now available
 
Hi,

I managed to find the solution for OS2007 Hacker edition problem with maemo mapper(GPS problem).
There are to possible reasons for this problem
  • Binary is compiled against N800, which possible has additional CPU instructions, or possible changed format of the existing instructions.
  • Or, the problem is related to kernel which is old version (from 2006), and the application( built against 2007) simple fails because of some function call incompatibilities.
  • Any other reason

In any case, here are the instructions.
  1. Uninstall existing maemo mapper
  2. Start xterm
  3. sudo gainroot
  4. apt-get install libsqlite3-0
  5. (you need to answer with 'y')
  6. next, download latest maemo mapper for OS 2006 (no error 2006!) from garage repository
  7. dpkg -i maemo-mapper_1.4.7-2_amrel.deb

If you followed instructions you've got the working maemo mapper on hacker edition mk2.

Please, be advised that wherever you install the newer version of the maemo mapper, you might need to repeat the procedure.

Cheers,

Momcilo

johsua 2007-07-10 20:12

Re: OS 2007 on 770 mk2 now available
 
I tried your instructions, but I got the following error:

Package libxau0 in not installed.

Any ideas?

Edit: apparently all I needed was to add this repository:

http://repository.maemo.org/ bora free

Of course when I go to download a bunch of maps at once or goto an address it crashes...

Texrat 2007-07-10 20:57

Re: OS 2007 on 770 mk2 now available
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by momcilo (Post 58015)
[*]dpkg -i maemo-mapper_1.4.7-2_amrel.deb

Not trying just to nitpick, but shouldn't that be armel? some people may not know to correct it.

tonyb 2007-07-10 23:11

Re: OS 2007 on 770 mk2 now available
 
Hi, I just installed OS 2007 "hacker edition" on my 770, and lxdoom won't run, the error at the command line is "Cannot init libshadow!"

Hope I'm posting this in the right place :|

SkwrHdz 2007-07-12 16:10

Re: OS 2007 on 770 mk2 now available
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dcy (Post 50717)
I tried both the official maemo-mapper and the smuckles version, but have hit a dependency problem: reportedly, libosso-help0 >=2.0.8 is needed. Any clue ? Thanks

D.

Poulsone replied to your question, did it fix things?

I also had trouble with the "libosso-help0 >=2.0.8 is needed" error message. Just fixed it with the help from Poulsone's answer to you.

Here's how I did it:

Quote:

I had this problem too. If I remember correctly, I solved it by adding a bunch of repositories. I'm not sure which one provided the needed package. My /etc/apt/sources.list is:


#maemo:name Maemo.org
deb http://repository.maemo.org bora free non-free extras
.
This is the repository that is needed to get libosso-help0 onto the N800.

It can be added by, on the desktop, going to "Application Manager", hitting the hard-key menu button, then "Tools", the "Application Catalogue...", then "New", then enter the following information:

Catalogue name: Maemo.org
Web address: http://repository.maemo.org
Distribution: bora
Components: free non-free extras
and leave Disabled Unchecked.

Then "OK"

After going through those steps I was able to get MaemoMapper to upgrade without the "libosso-help0" error message.
.

theonehorst 2007-07-16 14:25

Re: OS 2007 on 770 mk2 now available
 
Hi there,

i just got my hand on a n770 and installed OS 2007 HE. Works great. But i have no sound with sdl-applications. I fixed the alsaconf, so the progs (like scummvm) works, but no sound?

Any ideas?

frappe987 2007-07-18 17:44

Re: OS 2007 on 770 mk2 now available
 
Hello I am very much a newbie and just got as a gift an N770. I am so excited to read about all of you going into OS2007. Is there a walk through that is simple (layman term) Thanks for any help you can share.

lmf 2007-07-23 02:05

Re: OS 2007 on 770 mk2 now available
 
Is it possible make sip calls (after installing rtcomm) with this OS2007 for the 770?
(like with a n800)

thanks.


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