Re: Nokias reply about N900's compatability with Ovi Suite
 

people really need to understand that the N900 is a mobile computer and they expect simple things like syncing contacts, and organizing their messages from the pc to be as easy as sending an email from their device, if not even easier. And it is rightful to expect that, and to discuss in threads alternatives that enable them to do it. All those posts that incorporate the phrase "go buy a *" are worse than the worst whiner on this board.

Stop killing every conversation, if you wanted a device with no point to talk about what we want from it, and just expect to have what is advertised and only that go buy an i-phone.
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Re: Nokias reply about N900's compatability with Ovi Suite
 

I'm not saying don't talk about fixing the problem I'm saying don't whine about it, if their is no offical support then start a brainstorm or get some programmers intersted in writting a third party application that does the job. Maemo platform is about being open and the community has always written 99% of all the applications. And really it sounds to me more like you guys need an iphone since you want the phone maker to supply all the software it sounds and not the community. Before Maemo5 just about all you got with your device from Nokia was a browser, text editor, and a few crappy games. The community took care of everything else and I feel it should still be that way.

Re: Nokias reply about N900's compatability with Ovi Suite
 

so nokias reply really was most likely that they are making a new suite which we can bug test until it actually works right about the time we get rid of our n900s ready for it to be used for meego.

Re: Nokias reply about N900's compatability with Ovi Suite
 

Ok, I'll change a few things about for you.

Forget Ovi Suite for 1 minute, and we'll stick to Nokas PC Suite.
The PC Suite has had the messaging utility in it from day 1, so why to this day has the PC Suite STILL NOT got a working messaging utility in it? I'm well within my rights to knock Nokia for not having this utility enabled, I spent £499 on the bloody thing! and I expect the BASIC functions to be working with it.

Would you go buy a next generation TV without the speakers included with it? No you wouldn't, and I know for a fact you wouldn't settle for someone telling you "Oh its a niche device" so you gotta live with the TV without sound...

Come on, do you really go and buy a device without basic functions? And if you did, you'd expect the manufacture to sort it out.

Re: Nokias reply about N900's compatability with Ovi Suite
 

I agree with that, except I don't expect to be provided with all the software, just the basics, so I can ditch the old device. That way, I will use the new device every day, I will love it, and if I want something to work on it and it is into my powers to create it, I will.

By the way, you can sync to a symbian device, and hook that to ovi suite (or pc suite). It has it's problems though, it messes up IM contacts.
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Re: Nokias reply about N900's compatability with Ovi Suite
 

@James174 you will probably label me a Nokia apologist etc but your post interests me. The basic features you talk about are basic for your Symbian and S40 devices. The telephone feature is brand new in Maemo and does not seem to be the absolute focus over at Nokia. The real issue is the branding nightmare that Nokia is intent in immersing themselves in. They should never have branded this an "N" anything and simply sold it as an Internet Tablet with 3G data. The second they branded as a phone, users like you hopped on the train and bought the device and are now shocked that what you consider basic functionality is "missing".

Some of us have been using these tablets (maemo) for years and I'm pretty impressed with what they have evolved to. They have never had any type of syncing before. They had a terrible contacts app and no calendar at all, IM was ok but not excellent, Skype was a standalone application. The only time to ever connect them to a pc was to reflash the software which once Diablo came along with "over the air" OS updating was also not needed. For many of us we considered the tablets to be mini-pc standalone devices. The only thing I ever plug my 'phone' into a pc for, is tranferring music to the 32 GB internal and to charge it.

I still think of my N900 as a standalone device whereas there are now many users who think of it as a phone like an iPhone or N97 which are designed to be managed from a pc and want an ovi suite/itunes application. This is not a bad thing but something that Nokia marketing should have tried to focus on when they introduced the N900. I'm sorry that you don't have the functionality you need and hope that Nokia releases software that will help you out or that someone develops it from the community.

Re: Nokias reply about N900's compatability with Ovi Suite
 

but this isnt a standalone tablet, its a hibrid tablet/phone. and whether youv been a tablet user for years and are used to not syncing it with the pc is besides the point, i certainly want a no fuss way of syncing and backing up to my pc, which is in turn synced and backed up to my nas with no fuss. its not too much to ask, and no pc suite doesnt do what i need, it doesnt do what nokia wants either otherwise the wouldnt have developed ovisuite. these features have been part of the basic package nokia have given with thier phones for years. why are we so different? because it comes from a line of internet tablets, same could be said for symbian comin from the psion series organizers.

Re: Nokias reply about N900's compatability with Ovi Suite
 

mobiledivide said device, not tablet, and that's key.

The main development focus was on all-in-one device functionality, less so on syncing with other devices. Personally I'm not completely thrilled with the results, but I do understand the reasoning.

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@mobiledivide
Thank you for your enlightening post, i can see your point, and this is the first time I've jumped on the "Internet Tablet / Device" train, so I wasn't fully aware of what to expect. But im kinda in the mindset of, "If the functions cant be used properly, then why include them at all?"
I'm not wanting millions of "apps for this, and apps for that" for the N900, but it would just make life that little bit easier for basic functions to be working properly.
I completely understand your explaination that Nokia shoudn't of advertised it as "N" anything, but the thing is... they did. They did advertise it as a internet tablet / device with phone functionality, and full functionality with a PC is kinda what we all want. So I can see why blame is pushed Nokia's way. I love my device I really do, and in like the other thread on here, I want to say "Thank You" to Nokia for making a great device. But if they / people dont like the critisism, they why oh why make the device with these features if they cant be used. Its just frustrating :p

Re: Nokias reply about N900's compatability with Ovi Suite
 

I can understand that you feel tha this is a great improvement over the N8xx but I have to say, it is irrelevant. The fact that it is a tablet/standalone/mobile pc can explain some shortcomings like the portrait mode, mms and specific ringtones, but for the syncing matter is irrelevant too. I very well sync all my info from my desktop to my laptop and vice verca over various protocols, and I do that every day.
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