New rumors about Nokia tablet in the fall
 

Reuters

...and of course the media is talking about it as if everyone's copying Apple :rolleyes:


Sounds good, though. If Nokia can execute better than Apple, it could be a big hit despite (or even due to) the iPad hype.

Since the rumors only have a date, we might as well discuss what everyone here would like from an iPad-sized device. Personally, I would like:
(NOTE: THIS IS NOT FROM THE ARTICLE)

-Intel graphics with Free drivers
-Intel networking with Free drivers
-Intel X25-M integrated on the motherboard
-Touchscreen that stops recognizing your hand if you pull out the stylus.
-Attachable wireless keyboard with multitouch touchpad
-MeeGo

ARM is great, but Intel can offer so much more for the system as a whole. I can live with being able to install Windows :D .

I suspect my wishes would be too expensive or heavy, though.

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the size of the ipad puts me off, im hoping nokia stick to mobile sized devices, i wouldnt mind my n900 being an inch bigger tho (and i know a few women who have said that to me before!) but back to the n900, an inch bigger, a bigger battery, a bigger processor and the ipad will be history, imho

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Yah! totally agreed,... an inch bigger for N900 will be perfect.

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This Reuters post is devoid of content. No one can tell if this is about the maemo tablet series (all of the previous devices to the N900 have been tablets) or if this is a new device. Maybe this is just a ploy by Reuters to get more ad eyeballs on anything that says tablet now that the iPad is out?

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Haha!
The iPad can't do anything more than my N900.
I think it is the usual Apple-fanboyism and hype.

EDIT: I tried to comment on the linked article, but I get "Your comment failed to be submitted." every time. LOL.

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The upcoming Maemo6/MeeGo phone could be it for me, as I need to have as many funtions as possible stuck into a single device. This business with the Pads and Slates is taking it in another direction completely. If the next NXX device is thinner with a 4" screen and qwerty then I'm sold.

That said, I do feel a strange yearning towards a tablet shaped device as well :P My ideal tablet would run either Ubuntu or MeeGo.

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I'll wait for the real electronic paper tablet I can fold or roll up and stick in a pocket. Now that to me will be revolutionary, otherwise it seems to me that we're just currently tossing around devices with different form-factors... *yawn*

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I'm not sure I agree. A bigger screen would be nice, but the N900 doesn't feel comfortable in one hand as it is. I'd be happier with something slightly smaller physically with the screen as close to the edges as possible.

If I buy an even larger device, it needs to also replace my netbook to be worth the money, and MeeGo is obviously capable of that on a sufficiently large screen.

Given the context (iPad), I'm assuming the rumor is about a much larger screen than previous Maemo devices.

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Including less battery life. Intel has a long way to go before their power consumption is anywhere near what ARM can offer.

Personally I would like to stay away from Intel, if only to ensure that we have diversity in the marketplace instead of Intel and x86 everywhere, and all the problems that brings us. This is my current concern with MeeGo, that Intel will (like the SSSE3 requirement) make changes that malign non-Intel platforms.

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On phones, yes. On 10" devices, Atom is adequate if there are other benefits.


It's funny how we'd need to both avoid x86 in order to promote diversity, and embrace it in order to ensure proper drivers, since Intel is the only company that consistently provides them.

PowerVR probably won't open source their drivers unless Intel becomes competitive.

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My experience with Atom has been that a 3 cell Li-Ion battery is dead within 90 minutes with active usage (browsing the web via wifi) and 3 hours mostly idle unless I put the device to sleep (which requires active input.)

If the reports of 9-11 hours with active usage of the iPad are true, then I don't know what benefits Atom can possibly provide to justify a 9.5 hour usage gap.

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Even with Pine View?

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as an iPad owner I will say that rumors of massive battery life are true.

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I'll be looking forward to the HP Slate. And that pre-dates the iPad in all of its patents. Not that the media ever mention that.

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Nokia will most likely develop an ARM based tablet device around 8" or so. If you take a look at Moblin 2.2/Meego you'll see that this OS is geared towards this type of device.

I'm actually impressed with video's I've seen of Meego running on Netbooks. It's something I'd definitely use. It pretty much blows away anything Windows 7 on a tablet can offer.

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Ah, all those juicy posts that ridicule and write off the iPad without having actually used an iPad (or even MeeGo as yet).

The one thing to seriously consider is not the hardware specs but more so the software and the UI of the OS. From what I read about users first reactions to the iPad (and theres ppleanty on the web) the UI on the iPad and the resposniveness and slickness is the FIRST and FOREMOST point of attention - not the hardware specs.

Even without maultitasking (the lack of which I think is abominable) it still can be a winning device only if for the UI and the ecosystem of apps around Apple.

So in the long run this is what will matter - apps apps apps. Not MeeGo by itself, not blazing hardware, not size constrains (an inch here or there is really splitting hairs).

And to brings apps to the mix, the multi-device paradigm of MeeGo and QT base might (who knows) be a boon.

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Microsoft Courier will steal the show

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i dont agree with 'apps,apps,apps'
its seems to me that many seems to find the number of apps are important.
i dont i only find the quality of the apps important, i rather have 100 good apps where i use about 20 apps from then 100000 apps where i cant find 10 very usefull.

if i look at my E90 in the 2 years that i used it then i used about 10 to 15 apps regular. thats it

i know that which apps you want is different for various people, i dont need a facebook apps and also games are not that important to me.

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You, sir, have apparently never tried to run the opensource Intel graphics drivers..

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Doesn't the 8-inch tablet sound awfully similar to the "Sofabook" some people were advocating before the N900, only to be told that pocketability was essential?

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The great thing is Apple has raised the bar. Competitors are forced to provide "at least' 9 hour battery life. I actually hope the new Iphone makes a huge advancement in battery life too...

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I disagree here, Apps seem to be a requirement for many on a small screen device, but on a 9inch screen with increased resolution these apps for Facebook/Mint/ start losing their luster. I haven't used an iPad yet but most pundits are saying the "magazine" apps are useless and expensive compared to the website alternatives. IMHO the tablet form factor is screaming for well developed websites and web apps that can be scaled up to desktop/laptop and scaled down to smartphone size.

Gaming is of course a different issue and one I think tablets aren't really a perfect platform for either.

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It's got a considerably larger screen, which is of importance to some folks. I can more easily recommend an iPad to my parents and grandparents than I can one of the Internet Tablets as a result.

NOTE: this is not a comment on usability at all; my parents are both geeks. ;)

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what i hope is that it carries on the python support seen on previous tablets. No need for extra computers to do development on could be really helpful in the long run.

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the ipad has 2 batteries, and each 1 is the same size as the iphone. The power coming from the batteries though is MUCH higher than the previous model.

This will probably mean that the next iphone will have more juice, but given the OS 4.0 speculation and its rumored inclusion of 'expose type multitasking' it would mean it needs the extra juice.

Perhaps after the OS 4.0 is updated on the IPAD, it will JUST manage to reach the 10 hours.

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I think that Nokia and Apple have quite different target audiences on the tablet market.

Nokia wants to make a pocketable computer, which you can use anytime, anywhere, and for any purpose you want.

Apple's goal is to feed their fans with something new, and get another few hundred dollars from them.
They also use the term "mobile computer", but they only allow you to use it for the things they want you to.

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So am I to understand that the proposed advantage of MeeGo with QT base to support cross platform portable apps will be a non-advantage on larger screen MeeGo devices - say like a netbook or tablet or set top box ? So if apps dont count does it mean any MeeGo device with a largish display (larger than a smartphone) might as well only ship with a browser ? So then all this talk of multi-device multi platform app support advantage of MeeGo might as well be discounted ?

I think now with iPhone apps etched in our minds , any talk of apps on tablets brings up comparisons to iPhone type apps. Of course firstly apps apps apps doent literally translate to quantity, it also means quality, and secondly apps on a large display device will naturally try and take into account such a use case. Why do people jump to conclusions thats apps will be the same smartphone type apps (and am not talking about iPad here).

I dont see how apps will not matter in any use case. Dont we use apps on a desktop or a netbook ?

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Dear god not Intel Atom!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As far as a meego pad goes........... awesome news.

Would be even better if it used TI's Omap4 SoC.

oh, and a six inch screen with a 960x540 resolution.