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GameboyRMH 2010-04-08 19:00

Re: Apple invents s60-style task switcher
 
It also works similarly to the "previous app" button in later versions of PalmOS - not multitasking, just fast and convenient task switching.

Andy214 2010-04-08 19:04

Re: Apple invents s60-style task switcher
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bergie (Post 601455)
The really lame part was the "think of the children" explanation of why you cannot install 3rd party apps from outside App Store on your iPhone:

You know, there's a porn store on Android and it has nothing but porn apps. You can download them, your kids can download them. That's a place where we don't wanna go, so we're not gonna go there

11:40AM Q: How do you close applications when multitasking? A: (Scott) You don't have to. The user just uses things and doesn't ever have to worry about it. (Steve) It's like we said on the iPad, if you see a stylus, they blew it. In multitasking, if you see a task manager... they blew it. Users shouldn't ever have to think about it.

Another lame part in bold; it's like saying those devices failed, but in fact, those are NICE TO HAVE features, not blew. It's blew when they don't have it and have to cover up by saying another.

User shouldn't have to think about Task Manager. Alright, but doesn't mean they shouldn't have it. It's a feature that is nice to have. Besides, the way they put it, it's like their device is only meant for "dumb" users who don't know what is task manager and how to use it.

In a sense, they're just trying to control as much as possible and also for those features they're missing or lack of, they have their way with the words; but to more advance users, those are rubbish excuses.
What if Windows does not provide Task Manager? Usually, the admin might disable the Task Manager to some users. So, to Apple,... their customer is those type of users? :eek:

slender 2010-04-08 19:11

Re: Apple invents s60-style task switcher
 
Psst. people I do not know single person (beside myself) who really really knows how to use symbians app switching. Who to fck really cares how we, the minority users or so called powerusers (if you log in to this forum you are already very very experienced user in my eyes), use our phone? All what matter is how majority of average joes use phone. If they have to think how to multitask or read manual you have lost the game (market) already.

People are arguing here about what is best to them, but in my eyes only thing that matters is how much you sell your device and applications. That is the best feedback.

-miniME- 2010-04-08 19:14

Re: Apple invents s60-style task switcher
 
my humble opinion here - apple does the right marketing - all what it needs - no matter who invented it before or if it is copied - thats what will make the new iphone a huge success - all ahh_iphone_has_no_multitasking_i_will_never_buy_it will jump on the train.

i wait for the physical keyboard_iphone and good bye rest of mobile phone world.

wmarone 2010-04-08 19:15

Re: Apple invents s60-style task switcher
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slender (Post 601487)
People are arguing here about what is best to them

That's because this forum has quite a few end users as members.

Quote:

but in my eyes only thing that matters is how much you sell your device and applications. That is the best feedback.
Which matters if you're the device manufacturer (Nokia) or (proprietary) application developer. This is why HTC has put SenseUI over Android and WinMo, and why Nokia started up the Ovi store.

Enyibinakata 2010-04-08 19:19

Re: Apple invents s60-style task switcher
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy214 (Post 601473)
11:40AM Q: How do you close applications when multitasking? A: (Scott) You don't have to. The user just uses things and doesn't ever have to worry about it. (Steve) It's like we said on the iPad, if you see a stylus, they blew it. In multitasking, if you see a task manager... they blew it. Users shouldn't ever have to think about it.

Another lame part in bold; it's like saying those devices failed, but in fact, those are NICE TO HAVE features, not blew. It's blew when they don't have it and have to cover up by saying another.

User shouldn't have to think about Task Manager. Alright, but doesn't mean they shouldn't have it. It's a feature that is nice to have. Besides, the way they put it, it's like their device is only meant for "dumb" users who don't know what is task manager and how to use it.

In a sense, they're just trying to control as much as possible and also for those features they're missing or lack of, they have their way with the words; but to more advance users, those are rubbish excuses.
What if Windows does not provide Task Manager? Usually, the admin might disable the Task Manager to some users. So, to Apple,... their customer is those type of users? :eek:



Well noted. And yet people come to this site bashing Nokia for not being like Apple. DIMWITS.

jnwi 2010-04-08 19:21

Re: Apple invents s60-style task switcher
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slender (Post 601487)
Psst. people I do not know single person (beside myself) who really really knows how to use symbians app switching. Who to fck really cares how we, the minority users or so called powerusers (if you log in to this forum you are already very very experienced user in my eyes), use our phone? All what matter is how majority of average joes use phone. If they have to think how to multitask or read manual you have lost the game (market) already.

If no one understands the s60 task switcher, how is this better? It works the exact same way, except you double click instead of long clicking. Neither is more obvious than the other.

Unless your argument is that most Apple users will watch the demo, then remember the key later, and pretend it's intuitive. In which case you're probably right. Such is the power of advertising.

baron von bubba 2010-04-08 19:22

Re: Apple invents s60-style task switcher
 
wow. thats pretty cool.

itll work just like my nokia 7610 used to........ about 5 years ago.

Enyibinakata 2010-04-08 19:24

Re: Apple invents s60-style task switcher
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slender (Post 601487)
Psst. people I do not know single person (beside myself) who really really knows how to use symbians app switching. Who to fck really cares how we, the minority users or so called powerusers (if you log in to this forum you are already very very experienced user in my eyes), use our phone? All what matter is how majority of average joes use phone. If they have to think how to multitask or read manual you have lost the game (market) already.

People are arguing here about what is best to them, but in my eyes only thing that matters is how much you sell your device and applications. That is the best feedback.

You probably dont know a lot of Symbian users. My Mum is over 60 and she figured out how to do this on her new 5230. How hard can it be to press a button. in fact the iPhone OS just copied s60 here. Press and hold.
Leave the kool aid alone man not good for your health

slender 2010-04-08 19:30

Re: Apple invents s60-style task switcher
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Enyibinakata (Post 601511)
You probably dont know a lot of Symbian users. My Mum is over 60 and she figured out how to do this on her new 5230. How hard can it be to press a button. in fact the iPhone OS just copied s60 here. Press and hold.
Leave the kool aid alone man not good for your health

I prefer beer and we do not have that luxury here in Finland. For some reason, after serving many years as all-around helpdesk in computer and gadget releated things to my friends and reletives I have seen too many end users. Have to just say it's not pretty thing. All I can say is that Apple has hit the right spot. Maybe it's just advertising and mass religion but eventually those who make most of money survive.....and also OS :)


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