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@etuoyo agree that the delay when switching to portrait can be irritating, and I hope it's fixed in coming updates. However it has never been a problem in a way that it has made me miss a call. Perhaps there is some problems with some applications? Are you using experimental applications? (from devel and such)

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HtheB, thanks for making my point! You are still trying to claim that the guy might hate the N900, even though he specifically said the opposite. I think that your emotion makes you reading impaired. Too many people here are like you.

I think it's perfectly legitimate to say that the OP needs to fix his device or return it, or whatever. It's just not legitimate to say (a) any criticism of the N900 means that you hate the N900, or (b) that any connection between the N900 and a phone is some sort of coincidence, they have nothing to do with each other.

It is ALSO not legitimate to act like the header from the article is the only important part (My N900 is the worst phone in the world.) Try to read things in context. The OP specifically said that his comments only applied to his particular phone, not to N900s in general. So those of you who reacted like he was criticising all N900s have no case.

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I was replying in general (that says that it hates his/her N900), not for a specific person :)

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Sensible I can do. But I see less sensible people knocking anyone who says N900 is a phone.
People telling others that they shouldn't have bought the N900 if they wanted a phone blah blah.

I remember qgil or some other Nokia guy here (peter?) saying that N900 is a mobile phone.

However, I do see the other side of the story here.
See link - http://www.nokia.com.au/find-product.../nokia-n900-01
It's soon to be releasing in Oz here and it says "Nokia N900 Touchscreen Mobile Computer". :p

At the end, all the new smart phones these days have the same or better hardware at core. So N900 isn't anything special or unique hardware wise. So it must be the OS which makes it a tablet and not a phone? If so, is it OKAY for N900 to have a crappy phone function as it's not a phone? It is all about playing with words now.

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I would disagree, that phone even has video calls ;-) (as long as the string is short enough)
Is this the iphone 4.x ?

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That wasn't aimed directly at you, apologies if you thought so. But it was actually aimed at other posters, particularly the harsh first few replies in the thread. BTW I dont feel I've jumped down your throat either!

Now that we're out of each others throats :p I hope the thread will go back to responding to the OPs post. It's a bit all over the place at the moment. I hope the OP will reply and let us know if he's already seeked help via warranty, or any other steps he has done/planned to do. The behaviour of his handset is clearly not right, he's spent a lot of money and I hope he'll get everything sorted. Hopefully he'll reply back soon telling us everything is resolved and now he's got the best phone in the world ;)

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So you were just speaking generally of hypothetical people, none in the thread. Hypothetical people with a hypothetical opinion. You feel very strongly that these hypothetical people should go elsewhere. Perhaps they should.

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If you want to call N900 an internet tablet with phone functionality, please stop ranting about IPhone which lack flash support and multitasking as it's just a phone with some tablet functionality. As you see, your argument works in both ways. Anyway, my point is that you should try to be more objective and use common sense. And to make things clear: I like N900 a lot and I hate IPhone but I'm not blind and see flaws and good sides of all devices.

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The problem is the title is "ignitive" and now the thread is veering off-topic and descending into people trying to defend themselves.

I don't think etuoyo is actually reading this thread anymore.

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@etuoyo:
What I would say that if you are missing important phone calls then maybe get another temporary phone?

I know that is a crap solution but if your are willing to maybe keep the n900 and wait for the next update? Hopefully the phone app will be a little more stable.

Let us know how you get on.

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Hey no problem - It's just a misunderstanding - sorry.
(Hugs & kisses kojacker ;) )

If it is not too late maybe etuoyo can return it to the retailer and get a speedy replacement.

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"Uh-heh-ha-ha...and I thought my jokes were bad."

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probably said already.
flash both:fiasco and vanilla. yeh it sucks but try out.

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Too many Nokia fanboys on here quick to defend simple flaws with the N900 :(

I think a large majority of N900 users migrated from a symbian handset of some kind (i.e n95, n97, e71) and therefore expected similiar if not greater phone performance levels from the N900.

Whether you want to accept it or not, alot of us felt like Nokia had robbed us once we splashed out £500+ for the device.

Not all of us are linux geeks, or experienced programmers/developers, and the non-technical consumers of this device expected the N900 to deliver the following...

*Phone functionality similiar to s60 devices
*Fully functional OVI Store with a range of games and apps boasting the N900's potential

I love my N900, but i can't help but admit defeat when i stare at it sometimes :(

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Wrong. It's a phone.

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Actually leaving aside the FUD in the thread, there arent really any flaws posted by the OP to defend.

He posted 6 problems with his N900. of these, points 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 (note that thats all of them) are not issues that the vast majority of people have, plenty of people in this thread have told him that all of his reported problems do not exist for them. I'm one of those people, yes, it takes 3-4 seconds for the phone to ring properly and be answerable when watching a video, but thats a 3-4 second wait, it doesnt make the phone unanswerable, which is the problem the OP's having.
Thus, he likely has a duff device, and the very second response he got (from me) along with countless others throughout the thread, suggested he contact nokia for a repair/replacement as the phone's clearly defective.

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Haha! You "conveniently" left out the actual TITLE of the very same page that your quote is from:

"Nokia N900 - Buy the Nokia N900 Mobile phone - Vodafone"

Here is the url:

http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/shop/mobile-phone/nokia-n900

Look at the page title (in your browser title bar) or look at the address to the page.

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this is correct. push any man enough and he'll push back.

and no one can say that the title isn't provocative, attacking, ... etc. for persons who have paid a lot from the same device. it is direct critic to everyone implying that your decision of buying was totally wrong.

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I agree. OP's phone definitely appears broken, if that's how it performs after a recent reflash without any Extras / Development software installed.

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Actually I did clearly state and acknowledge that Vodafone are selling the device as a phone in the phones section of their shop, though this is countered by the overwhelmingly huge detail that Nokia themselves advertise the device on a page named "N900 mobile computer" that has absolutely no reference whatsoever to it being a phone.
Please try reading my entire post before utterly failing at being a smartass.

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With respect, I do not agree:

I have never bought into this 'internet tablet' excuse: How many many of us would wish to carry an N900 in one pocket and a cellphone in another? Most people will rely on their N900 a phone, so it IS a phone to most people.

You don't need research to prove that - common sense should prevail...

Indeed, Nokia UK and retailers push the N900 heavily as a phone, so it is reasonable to presume most people here bought it AS a phone. That they are now disapponted is not their fault.

The N900 is not an alternative to a mac or pc - see how you get on without those devices next time you need to re-flash...

Judging by the postings on this forum, the highly visible marketing and extensive reviews, It is fair to say that the N900 has gone mainstream and is now in the hands of the masses who clearly regard it as a phone and make demands of it accordingly.

To scoff at these demands is ignorant and narcisstic. The N900 is an amazing device and if the phone & calendar UI and functionality were improved it could turn help the market away from other brands more effectively.

Success is a double-edged sword and Nokia should consider that when launching Meego.

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Does anyone remember this post?

It feels like I'm reading slashdot.org in here sometimes!

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The only guy wrong here is you. Nokia clearly stated several times since the beginning it is not a phone. It is an internet tablet with the "ability" to phone. Just because some operators sell it as a phone, because they don't have other categories or are uniformed doesn't mean it is phone! Get it? I guess you really don't know the history behind the N900 and Maemo, do you?

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Technology has taken leaps so fast, that terminology just can't keep up without "It's a phone! No, it's a NIT!" type of cat fight.

Well, first of all, all cell phones have inputs (mic/keys/GSM), outputs (speaker/screen/GSM), memory and processor(s) - therefore they are computers. Well, they qualify as computers. Certainly N900 qualifies as one, too. Personal computer is a whole different concept.

To me, N900 is a phone. Why? It can "natively" (it eats a SIM card) perform calls over cellular network and send/receive text messages. (About MMS support, that's extra, and not a requirement for a device to fit in the "phone" category.) And the most important factor is that I can rely on it as a phone. It has proven to be a reliable fella that Does The Job.

N900 is, to me, also an Internet tablet. It's small, has great web browser, Flash support, email and Skype/MSN/younameit. Because it supports the things listed, I haven't needed to power up my laptop in weeks! Seriously! For "the usual surfing" I most certainly want to use my desktop computer, but when on sofa, N900 is the thing.

N900 is also able to play music and videos. It also qualifies as a portable media player. Hell, I wonder why no one has yet come here shouting It's a freaking MP3 player and I'm right! The media capabilities are extreamely nice when traveling by a bus or a train, and the ability to play Internet radio stations is a killer feat in a party!

N900 acts as a USB mass media device when plugged in a computer and the correct mode is selected. Therefore, it is also a USB key. Also, because it eats a MicroSD card, too, it is also memory card reader.

As you can see, the list could go on and on. Oh, yes, it's a camera, too...

My dear forum users. Please stop whining about the terminology. N900 is not just a phone, nor can one succesfully claim that it is not a phone. Nor it is just an Internet tablet, because it eats a sim card. It holds a Linux distribution, not Symbian. It is really more than sum of its parts. And that's why I like my N900 so much (although there are some physical design flaws I'm very irritated with, but those are not to be discussed here).

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I think that most of the flamers here are actually only the ones that defend the n900.
It's an awesome device, the best, seriously, but nokia hasn't done enough research. Someone was ******ed enough to think that n900 is to cool to have more than 2 profiles, usable front video camera, ussd, mms, assigning ringtones to contacts and the rest of the basic stuff which my old S40 can do.
The sad part is that they admit some of the flows, but decide that we aren't that important to actually repair it (the one that amazes me the most is the Wlan connection), but they are many.
Hopefully they'll come around, but it might be a little to late and loose some of their fidelity.
The quality of their build is very low, I never thought this would be possible, but their QA sucks. And here I include, USB port, keyboard frame, lcds etc. This is not something people expect from a high end user.

Any marketing/reliability department knows that a happy customer tells other 4-8 people and an unhappy one tells at least 20. (and since the the flamer Ossipena might come and say "references" go and read about six sigma or SPM 112 - Handbook in design of reliable equipment ed. 1993).

On the webpage of NOKIA N900 it says IT'S A PHONE so I expect to use it as a phone.
From tomorrow I'll have two weeks to decide if I keep the device or not, and if ti satisfies my needs.

He just complained, it's his right.
I think most of you just put up front "IT'S A TABLE PC" so you could justify to yourself the missing functions.
If you keep it like this you'll end up like an Apple fanboy, buying an Iphone each year at a huge price just because it's trendy, and it has lots of apps, but ignoring the fact that you bought a device which is year behind an S60 when it comes to basic stuff.
Do most of you remember when the first iphone appeared how much fun we made of them because they didn't had the basic stuff like MMS, sending stuff via bluetooth or videocamera.
Think about it, we are almost stepping on their foot print. and by this I mean we're just accepting something which could do a lot more, and we're getting to a compromise where we loose some important things. It still is amazing, but it could be some much more if nokia would give us the basic stuff back.
Sorry for the comparison with the Iphone, it's the first thing it connected to this, it's not that good since most of us have a little Self-esteem not to give their hard earned money to Steve Jobs for an Ap, and then make him rich by watching his commercials.

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Yeah I came in and saw the typical fan boy responses I was expecting to see. Predicted most of them really. The dumbest of course is that it is not a phone. So because its primary function is not a phone it should be 50-50 whether I am able to receive calls on the device I paid over $600 for? It is the same ridiculous response people give when people complain about the media player. Surprising that Nokia included 32gb and micro SD card if it was not intended for media.

And someone sensibly suggested I have my phone set up to go to voicemail after 5 seconds. That is not the case. I don't even see such an option. It is either 20 seconds or nothing on mine. And that would still not explain why it goes straight to missed call without ringing everytime I am playing video and sometimes when I am not.

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Yeah I was looking for who to give the award of dumbest and most typical fanboy response and I am very very proud to announce that you are the winner of this award. Congratulations. I am only up to page 4 or so but I have no doubt that nothing to come is going to take the award away from you.

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Your device is faulty. Period! Reflash or get a replacement.

And about the whole "phone or tablet" thingy... N900 has embedded simple phone functionality. I knew it before I bought it... Most of N900 users knew it before they bought their devices... Why complain about something that was pretty clear since the beginning of N900's life cycle...? Nokia has NEVER made a device that could do everything in every aspect... They could embed an 8MP camera but they didn't... They could add some more phone features but they didn't... They chose so... It's not Nokia's fault that all of you whining bought a device unsuitable for your needs... Whenever I am about to spend more than 50€ I always do research... And you know what the result of my research was before I bought my n900...? That it's a mobile device with very many capabilities that can ALSO handle basic phone functions... And that's the reason I bought it... If I wanted something else (like a true phone) I would have bought n97 or I would have stayed with my beautiful n82! DEAL with it whiners...

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Moderators. Can we not just put threads like this in some hole somewhere and let people argue amongst themselves?

If you don't like the 'phone' then sell it and stop whining. Stop filling up an forum designed for technical discussions with utter fluff and flame bait. You have some valid points but these were covered in DeadMalcs response earlier. If you discover bugs, or UI design issues you feel can be improved, log them as bugs and they will be reviewed.

I won't defend the fact the N900 has some failings in the 'phone' useabilty stakes but I can live with them since I love other aspects of the 'phone'. I still have an E71 so have given up a good amount of functionality (currently) to use the N900 so don't accuse me of being a fanboy.. I bought the device since I wanted a netbook 'in effect' with phone functionality. The functions of the phone work fine for day to day use and I certainly don't experience the issues you mention...

The N900 is a hybrid device running on an early code cut which is due to change considerably over the coming months potentially, so why not come into the forum with constructive UI critique and possible design thoughts rather than this type of thread which serves absolutely no purpose whatsoever.. Your initial concerns were possibly valid and should be logged as bugs. Please ensure you are on the latest firmware and if you require absolute stability, please ensure no software other than extras repo is installed......

Ill go hide now in the Nokia N900 Fanboy room, awaiting my flaming....

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It seems to me that majority of guys writing on this thread and forum are either Nokia employee's (as they seem to know better then the rest of the world ! ) or hardened fanboys as they are termed on here or they just cannot read english, ok now i will set the record straight so that no one can argue this N900 being a internet tablet no more.
everyone reading this please go to http://www.nokia.co.uk/find-products...nes/nokia-n900
READ IT OK it is the official UK NOKIA website that clearly states the N900 IS A MOBILE PHONE and no way a internet tablet, please get your facts right before arguing and to all the people who appear to be die hard Nokia fans... your all idiots that will just not acceot that the N900 has got many many many faults that should have never been there prior to release.
I will say this that as the N900 is the very first linux based mobile of its kind i feel Nokia are well and truly out of order in every repsect for not getting the basics of a MOBILE PHONE right before its release.
I could go on and on and on but i am afraid to say all the so called fanboys just need to shut up and wait like me for Nokia to put things right that means ACCEPT the N900 is a first of its kind and has to be completly re-written in order to fulfill its use as a MOBILE PHONE.
I am one of the many many many who are very much feeling conned by Nokia on this one as you will learn by my previous posts on this forum.
I will no way toloerate idiots who cannot read and keep telling everyone that the N900 is a internet tablet, its nothing more than a MOBILE PHONE right now because its so called computing is no way established and none of the so called developers other than Nokia developers are even capable of writing sensible software for this MOBILE PHONE.
Just to add even more confusion the usa site says its a Mobile Computer on this official Nokia site http://www.nokiausa.com/find-product...#/main/landing
trust the Yanks to mix it all up as per usual !!!
anyhow as much as i love the yanks they are somewhat loud and i have to say also entitiled to their opinions.
i hope this puts the argument right about if the Nokia N900 is a Mobile Phone or a internet tablet.
NOKIA get your *** moving and give us the update every owner of a N900 very much needs because untill then this whole forum is only going to get worse with sad and somewhat volatile comments.
Everyone is entitled to there personal opinions and should be read with interest instead of idiots trying to make laws to suite themselves simply because they disagree with a comment made ! .

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"Explore these features to learn what you can do with the power of the Nokia N900 mobile computer."
-Nokia.com

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Yeah, whatever.

Remember this post?

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pilkun nussijat

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He is right !!!!! it IS the worst MOBILE PHONE in the world simply because i dont know of any MOBILE PHONE in this world as bad as the Nokia N900. leave him to his opinion please and respect them ok !.

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I do.

Some posts I made (please read):
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...0&postcount=10

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...6&postcount=24

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...1&postcount=32

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As I said... Everyone who is prone to whining should have done his homework when it comes to buying this device... The fault is yours and yours alone...

And as far as the opening post is concerned... I can totally sympathise with someone having problems with his device... But there's no bloody reason to provoke with such a thread title...

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Tried playing the 9 trailer with the stock media player and then placing a call to my phone. There was a significant delay but it did ring.

I haven't had any of the other problems you mention, although I haven't used the speakerphone.

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I will use YOU as a perfect example of someone that obviously cannot read ENGLISH ! go to the Nokia sites in my post and then realise what your saying ok.

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Did you flash both images? Fiasco and vanilla?

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This thread is highly entertaining.

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I would like to point out that talk.maemo.org is a fanboy forum, there is no denying this.
Whilst it shouldn't be the case, you need to be careful with what you title your post.
Your points are IMHO fair enough and would frustrate the hell out of me too, but rather than "I have the worst phone in the world" perhaps "n900 issues driving me insane" would be more politically correct.

And no, it shouldn't have to be this way, but it is....

off-topic seems to be the way to go with threads atm! :mad: