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Astute 2010-04-09 23:07

iPhone OS 4 - Advertising, grrrrr
 
Couldnt help but read about the new OS 4.0 for the Apple iPhone. One feature it has is 'iAD' which is advertising within Applications.

'iAd that will be used to place adverts in applications'

Advertising & Marketing certainly has a place but there are certain aspects of life that i dont want it in my face, i want out've sell sell sell. Such as when i'm using my personal device/phone and the features on it within reason.

Marketeers & advertisers aside, I'm curious if anyone see's real appeal of this to anyone other than the latter ? If anything would the pinciple not get on most people's nerves. Does anyone know how it will function, pop ups mid application or application boot up ??

sjgadsby 2010-04-09 23:09

Re: Advertising, grrrrr
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Astute (Post 603587)
Can anyone see a real appeal of this to anyone other than the marketeers & advertisers that will be sitting behind it ??

Developers who dream of making their first million by age 25 on that 60% cut of the ad revenue?

afaq 2010-04-09 23:11

Re: iPhone OS 4: Advertising, grrrrr
 
Some of the free apps/games on the N97 started advertising between levels and at end of games. Each time it required you to say 'no' otherwise the game would end and a website for the sponsore launched. very annoying.

Not sure how apple will implement it but i had ad's anywhere.

Astute 2010-04-09 23:13

Re: iPhone OS 4: Advertising, grrrrr
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by afaq (Post 603592)
Some of the free apps/games on the N97 started advertising between levels and at end of games. Each time it required you to say 'no' otherwise the game would end and a website for the sponsore launched. very annoying.

Not sure how apple will implement it but i had ad's anywhere.

Anything like that or similar lands in front of me and its uninstalled. Simple as :D

tobylee 2010-04-11 14:29

Re: iPhone OS 4 - Advertising, grrrrr
 
dont the apps have adverts in anyway? well, the free ones

Cthulhu 2010-04-11 14:36

Re: iPhone OS 4 - Advertising, grrrrr
 
I think it's great. I don't like the iPhone and if this "great" feature can drive more people away from it, then it's fine by me.

ysss 2010-04-11 14:39

Re: iPhone OS 4 - Advertising, grrrrr
 
I wouldn't mind ads if I can get >$20 apps for free with it... and usually they offer a paid ad-free version anyway.

That's the current pattern that I notice in AppStore anyway. I've never seen any ads in non-free apps.

eitama 2010-04-11 14:39

Re: iPhone OS 4: Advertising, grrrrr
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Astute (Post 603594)
Anything like that or similar lands in front of me and its uninstalled. Simple as :D

Agreed. Same on N95

bonerp 2010-04-11 18:52

Re: iPhone OS 4 - Advertising, grrrrr
 
I dont think that when you are paying for a premium service, that you should have to suffer adverts. Yet another reason not to buy into apple.

ysss 2010-04-11 18:56

Re: iPhone OS 4 - Advertising, grrrrr
 
@bonerp: You misunderstand the concept. They intend the advertising to be used to fund the free apps.

I'm sure if a non-free app includes advertising in it, the creator will get public backlash.

bonerp 2010-04-11 19:00

Re: iPhone OS 4 - Advertising, grrrrr
 
free apps should be supported by Apple - not at the sufferance of the user. You are still paying a premium price for the device let alone the mobile contract.

b-man 2010-04-11 19:01

Re: iPhone OS 4 - Advertising, grrrrr
 
Something tells me that some iphone developers are going to abuse this iAD "feature" to no end :P

ysss 2010-04-11 19:03

Re: iPhone OS 4 - Advertising, grrrrr
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bonerp (Post 605766)
free apps should be supported by Apple - not at the sufferance of the user. You are still paying a premium price for the device let alone the mobile contract.

Can you please infuse some logic to this?
Perhaps an example to another company with such scheme that you've described?

bonerp 2010-04-11 19:10

Re: iPhone OS 4 - Advertising, grrrrr
 
ok - why would I want to buy a phone then download apps that are full of adverts???? How many do this now?! Nokia doesn't. Apple doesn't. They want to entice customers to buy their premium top of the range devices because of all of the attractive extras/apps etc then smack adverts on the free apps - so I pay for the device at approx £500 then pay £30 per month line rental and subs and still get short changed and have to suffer crap ads. Thats your logic is it????
If they offer free apps isn't that part of the appeal - like the app store. However some are pay apps. Fair enough. But on the ones that are free why would I accept adverts?? Aren't these supposed to be the draw/incentive to purchase the Apple product over, for example Nokia or HTC? Most of my friends/colleagues thinks Apple must be on a death wish. Maybe you accept adverts. As a consumer paying for a product/service, I don't.

Astute 2010-04-11 19:11

Re: iPhone OS 4 - Advertising, grrrrr
 
Lets keep things simple. Regardless of the technicalities, are there moments in your life when you cannot be doing with advertising ??

If that is the case i'm sure you appreciate the opinion.


:)

ysss 2010-04-11 19:34

Re: iPhone OS 4 - Advertising, grrrrr
 
@bonerp: Take a deep breath :) We're talking about other people's companies creating gadgets, software and services for the masses here. Don't take these things personally.... I'm constantly amazed how this topic can get to the core of people as if their mums have been called names at :D

Anyways..

Many of the free apps out there are ad-supported already. This isn't something new to the AppStore and you can Google AdMob for numbers and trends. That's why Apple wants to make money off this sector.

Initially, I don't expect to see a major shift in apps pricing and ad appearances. But overtime, I do think that the ad revenue that you can make off a free but very popular app can be considerable; which may seduce many developers to make ad-only apps.

I'm also curious as to the implementation of said ads that you have in mind. Because these ads are small banners that you can optionally click to interact with. Not something that forces you to view certain media for a certain amount of time...

At least the sample that they've shown were designed that way.

And I should point out that this is an optional ad framework that people can use instead of the numerous other mobile ad platforms out there (including google's). There's nothing forcing free apps to come with ads (other than the prospect of financial gains).

ps: no, 'free apps' isn't 'part of the deal' when you buy an iPhone (or any other phones out there) if these apps are made by 3rd parties and it's not mentioned in the marketing material\contract to be provided for you for free.


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