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Toontje 2007-02-27 08:15

First impressions of the n800 compared to the 770
 
Hi all!

I recently upgraded from a 770 to a n800. My first impression is that the n800 is much less stable than the 770. It reboots randomly, applications stall or shutdown without any message.
I think we are in desperate need of a firmware upgrade!

Ton.

toby 2007-02-27 08:23

Re: First impressions of the n800 compared to the 770
 
I don't have a 770 but my 800 is pretty much rock solid - only locked up once after I installed Canola.

Toontje 2007-02-27 09:26

Re: First impressions of the n800 compared to the 770
 
Well, so far i had the lock-up after i installed Canola (like you did), mail suddenly not launching anymore (had to delete all user settings to fix that), random reboots while scanning for WiFi networks, Opera quitting without any reason, do you want me to go on? And i only got it yesterday...

geneven 2007-02-27 11:42

Re: First impressions of the n800 compared to the 770
 
I have had Opera quit many times without a good excuse. I suspect that 770 user are at a disadvantage because they know how/want to install more programs. I am sticking to the programs with the green autoinstall mainly, as they seem to be the most complete ones. And I don't take the red pill!

Riddler 2007-02-27 12:25

Re: First impressions of the n800 compared to the 770
 
Odd, I've only had Opera quit on me once so far (four days of heavy use)

schmots 2007-02-27 13:08

Re: First impressions of the n800 compared to the 770
 
I have never had my flash install quit or crash.. my dual boot gets flaky sometimes.. but nothing a good fsck in the pants doesn't fix

acydlord 2007-02-27 13:49

Re: First impressions of the n800 compared to the 770
 
I had a lot of random reboots with canola installed, removed it and it's stable again

Texrat 2007-02-27 14:59

Re: First impressions of the n800 compared to the 770
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Toontje (Post 36747)
Hi all!

I recently upgraded from a 770 to a n800. My first impression is that the n800 is much less stable than the 770. It reboots randomly, applications stall or shutdown without any message.
I think we are in desperate need of a firmware upgrade!

Ton.

It's a common mistake to assume a unique experience is pervasive. To counter your post, I've handled thousands of N800s, personally testing a few hundred, and have encountered very few issues such as what you report. There are definitely issues, including faulty devices, but they are the exception not the norm.

Search and browse these forums for some excellent advice from very helpful and knowledgeable people.

TA-t3 2007-02-27 15:06

Re: First impressions of the n800 compared to the 770
 
Summary for me:
I see the reboots regularly (every other day or so), but it's always when it's idle and thus has no impact in practice on what I do. I have seen Opera go down two or maybe three times so far (1.5 months), but hey, my desktop browsers crash more often. One instance of email app refusing to start, resolved by rebooting. I have never seen a hang of any kind, and no kernel or other crashes. Most important of all, I haven't had any "aarrghh"-experiences ;)

Texrat 2007-02-27 15:29

Re: First impressions of the n800 compared to the 770
 
^ helpful and knowledgeable person. ;)

Toontje 2007-02-27 15:53

Re: First impressions of the n800 compared to the 770
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 36816)
It's a common mistake to assume a unique experience is pervasive.

I'm just stating MY experience.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 36816)
To counter your post,

Why would you want to counter my post? Did i say something wrong?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 36816)
I've handled thousands of N800s, personally testing a few hundred,

Wow! So you must be working either in Nokia or in some tablet magazine or something. Just wondering, if you test "hundreds" of tablets, what are you actually testing? If you test one, you've seen them all, no? Unless you work in some kind of repair shop and then thousands is a very bad number. :rolleyes: (moderator, can you please plit off this thread). (ah, and this is not cynical ment. I'm really wondering this.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 36816)
Search and browse these forums for some excellent advice from very helpful and knowledgeable people.

Hehe, if my boss knew how much i was browsing this forum during working hours, he would fire me instantly. You haven't seen too many questions yet? That's because i SEARCH for forums and ASK Mr. Google first before i post a message.
I had all kinds of cool plans of running the OS off the memory card to be bigger, better and faster, but so far i'm just struggling to keep the device going. :(

Ton.

Texrat 2007-02-27 17:13

Re: First impressions of the n800 compared to the 770
 
Ton, this comment:

Quote:

My first impression is that the n800 is much less stable than the 770. It reboots randomly, applications stall or shutdown without any message.
I think we are in desperate need of a firmware upgrade!
--while it does include a qualifier that it's your impression, it also presumes that your experience is the norm, ie, the device at large is in "desperate need for a firmware upgrade". The fact that most devices do not behave as you have experienced illustrates that this is not the case-- at least, as it pertains to your situation. I daresay most of us are getting along quite well without an upgrade... so your situation, as unfortunate as it is, must be fairly unique.

And my remark about "countering your post" was not meant to be an attack of any sort so I apologize for putting you on the defensive. It's not that you said something "wrong",; I was again just pointing out the error in presumption.

You'll find that broad statements indicting something like the N800 will elicit rebukes from less civil sorts which is why I replied as I did. It's far better, IMO, to stick specifically to the issue and post as many critical details as you can, while avoiding generalizations, if you're looking for true troubleshooting. Otherwise, the request comes off more as a rant and that just leads to fraying threads. ;)

All that aside, I won't go too deeply into my involvement with the device (gotta leave a tiny amount of mystery) but suffice to say I've been reponsible for some really hardcore, thorough testing. That has enabled me to state with a high degree of confidence that your experience is not the norm, and there must be special cause involved. That could range from a unique hardware fault to a battery problem (not too uncommon) to software conflicts, etc. The more relevant info you can provide on your experience, the faster and more accurately the good folks here can help you.

Toontje 2007-02-27 18:37

Re: First impressions of the n800 compared to the 770
 
Ok, ok. I'm going to post some individual posts with my findings.

Thanks,

Ton.

Toontje 2007-03-07 14:24

Re: First impressions of the n800 compared to the 770
 
No replies to my other postings... :mad:

I want my 770 back! At least the 770 worked. :(

RSS Reader randomly crashing, Mail not working at all anymore.

What to do?

Ton.

phi 2007-03-07 15:18

Re: First impressions of the n800 compared to the 770
 
maybe you've got a faulty unit? you could always swap it out with another one if this one is giving you so much trouble.

Toontje 2007-03-07 15:44

Re: First impressions of the n800 compared to the 770
 
I'm thinking about reflashing it and start all over again... :-(


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