maemo.org - Talk

maemo.org - Talk (https://talk.maemo.org/index.php)
-   Applications (https://talk.maemo.org/forumdisplay.php?f=41)
-   -   [Announce] uktrainplanner - National Rail Enquiries Live Departures (for UK rail networks) (https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=49695)

StewartHolmes 2010-04-10 20:55

[Announce] uktrainplanner - National Rail Enquiries Live Departures (for UK rail networks)
 
Hello everyone,

I'm working on some software to use National Rail Enquiries' online live departures information. Most of the basic functionality is in place, so it should all be functional if not yet beautifully pretty.

Due to the current autobuilder issues with PR1.2, you won't be able to get it from extras-devel right now, so instead you can get source/binary deb if you want to try it out:

https://garage.maemo.org/projects/uktrainplanner/

Stewart

mr yoda 2010-04-11 03:22

Re: [Announce] uktrainplanner - National Rail Enquiries Live Departures (for UK rail networks)
 
Nice one. Look forward to this.

james174 2010-04-11 03:41

Re: [Announce] uktrainplanner - National Rail Enquiries Live Departures (for UK rail networks)
 
Your an absolute legend. I've wanted this to appear so badly it hurt. I would like to make a donation if you accept them.
Thank you so much.

mattaustin 2010-04-11 04:10

Re: [Announce] uktrainplanner - National Rail Enquiries Live Departures (for UK rail networks)
 
Awesome - just a heads up though that National Rail Enquiries are very protective of their data, and refused permission for me to use live departure information in my app when I asked, so you might want to check with them before putting in a lot of effort in to developing the app.

james174 2010-04-11 05:46

Re: [Announce] uktrainplanner - National Rail Enquiries Live Departures (for UK rail networks)
 
This is national rails acceptable use policy.

Acceptable use Policy

Some individuals and organisations have been caught obtaining the data for commercial gain without being licensed to do so. Further, some users attempt to make excessive use of the site. While periodically refreshing browsers left open are acceptable, the use of scripts that draw down very high volumes of data is not permitted, since this jeopardises the service for other users.

We will detect and prevent such unlicensed activity to keep the service available for all our customers.


So by the looks of it, as long as its not for commercial gain, you dont need a license. Your advertising their company for free, and providing a facility which makes life easier for their customers. I think you'd need not worry, they'll be begging you to make it happen.

StewartHolmes 2010-04-11 10:18

Re: [Announce] uktrainplanner - National Rail Enquiries Live Departures (for UK rail networks)
 
Yep... I'm getting the data from their publically accessible API (designed for doing just what I am doing) at http://www.livedepartureboards.co.uk/ldbws/.

As you'll see in the software, there is no station-station journey planner (the button for it will instead open the web-based one), as I'd have to screen scrape for this, and I know they got pissy with someone doing this for iPhone.

shiny 2010-04-11 11:17

Re: [Announce] uktrainplanner - National Rail Enquiries Live Departures (for UK rail networks)
 
Sounds excellent - many thanks!

lardman 2010-04-12 08:51

Re: [Announce] uktrainplanner - National Rail Enquiries Live Departures (for UK rail networks)
 
Hmm, I've got some missing deps still even trying to install from the Garage deb, namely libqt4-xmlpatterns(>=4.5.3~git20090723), does this work for other people?

lma 2010-04-12 08:55

Re: [Announce] uktrainplanner - National Rail Enquiries Live Departures (for UK rail networks)
 
"apt-get -f install" after installing the deb with dpkg should pull the dependencies and complete the installation.

chimaera 2010-04-12 09:12

Re: [Announce] uktrainplanner - National Rail Enquiries Live Departures (for UK rail networks)
 
I'll be a regular user when this gets completed!

shiny 2010-04-12 09:47

Re: [Announce] uktrainplanner - National Rail Enquiries Live Departures (for UK rail networks)
 
I tried it and had to install the missing dependencies myself, yes. Looks great so far, and will certainly be using it periodically.

lardman 2010-04-12 19:58

Re: [Announce] uktrainplanner - National Rail Enquiries Live Departures (for UK rail networks)
 
@lma: Thanks

@StewartHolmes: Could you add that lib as a dep so other people don't have the same problem (when you have time, don't worry)

zail 2010-04-12 20:21

Re: [Announce] uktrainplanner - National Rail Enquiries Live Departures (for UK rail networks)
 
Another one on the "waiting to try when PR 1.2 appears" list! Lol.

Thanks for taking the time to make the app :) Look forward to seeing it...

TomJ 2010-04-12 21:38

Re: [Announce] uktrainplanner - National Rail Enquiries Live Departures (for UK rail networks)
 
In the meanwhile, try traintimes.org.uk; it's quite N900 friendly and has funky bookmarkable searches which you can access using MicroB's address bar using this technique.

StewartHolmes 2010-04-12 21:45

Re: [Announce] uktrainplanner - National Rail Enquiries Live Departures (for UK rail networks)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lardman (Post 607459)
@lma: Thanks

@StewartHolmes: Could you add that lib as a dep so other people don't have the same problem (when you have time, don't worry)

Hmm, I thought I did that. In the control file for my deb, I have:

Code:

Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}, libqt4-xmlpatterns
Not sure why that doesn't catch it.

To the others waiting for PR 1.2, you can still have a go now. You'll need to run

Code:

apt-get install libqt4-xmlpatterns
before doing

Code:

dpkg -i <filename>
where <filename> is the .deb file linked to in the first post of this thread.

Rob1n 2010-04-13 08:56

Re: [Announce] uktrainplanner - National Rail Enquiries Live Departures (for UK rail networks)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StewartHolmes (Post 607608)
Hmm, I thought I did that. In the control file for my deb, I have:

Code:

Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}, libqt4-xmlpatterns
Not sure why that doesn't catch it.

It does catch it, otherwise there wouldn't be any warnings about missing dependencies. If you're installing with dpkg, then it can't pull in dependencies though.

cashclientel 2010-04-13 09:04

Re: [Announce] uktrainplanner - National Rail Enquiries Live Departures (for UK rail networks)
 
Brilliant idea - a good and useful app.

Are there any screens? Can this get elevated to Testing ASAP? I'd assume this should be straightforward as the app is just a data presenter and isn't using any of the phone functions (i.e. risky)?

lardman 2010-04-13 17:48

Re: [Announce] uktrainplanner - National Rail Enquiries Live Departures (for UK rail networks)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 608241)
It does catch it, otherwise there wouldn't be any warnings about missing dependencies. If you're installing with dpkg, then it can't pull in dependencies though.

Ah my fault then, I foolishly thought it would pull them in, sorry!

vectorspace 2010-05-21 19:25

Re: [Announce] uktrainplanner - National Rail Enquiries Live Departures (for UK rail networks)
 
I'm itching to try this. Now do I install it? (I'm new to Maemo).

das_schlumpfie 2010-05-21 19:26

Re: [Announce] uktrainplanner - National Rail Enquiries Live Departures (for UK rail networks)
 
looking forward to it!

vectorspace 2010-05-24 08:27

Re: [Announce] uktrainplanner - National Rail Enquiries Live Departures (for UK rail networks)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vectorspace (Post 669761)
I'm itching to try this. Now do I install it? (I'm new to Maemo).

Typo

I meant to ask, how do I install this?

vectorspace 2010-05-29 10:56

Re: [Announce] uktrainplanner - National Rail Enquiries Live Departures (for UK rail networks)
 
Anyone? I really want to try this, but I don't know how to install it.

Kieron 2010-11-11 21:22

Re: [Announce] uktrainplanner - National Rail Enquiries Live Departures (for UK rail networks)
 
I f***ing love you.

Kamikaze 2010-11-11 23:18

Re: [Announce] uktrainplanner - National Rail Enquiries Live Departures (for UK rail networks)
 
I missed this when the thread was first about, sounds great. Does it work with PR1.3? Which repo is it in?

Thanks


All times are GMT. The time now is 12:01.

vBulletin® Version 3.8.8