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dustXman 2010-05-10 20:53
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dj_steve (Post 652126)
the partition sizes *shouldn* amtetr least on smaller cards, do ls -l /system/bin if you could please
Code:
*@*:~$ ls -l /media/sec/system/bin
insgesamt 2932
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  35300 2010-04-09 16:16 alsa_amixer
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root    191 2010-03-16 18:43 am
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  90920 2010-04-08 15:27 applypatch
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 214600 2010-04-08 15:20 applypatch_static
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  5664 2010-04-11 15:41 app_process
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  3128 2010-03-27 16:06 batt_mon
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  5172 2010-03-29 17:56 bluetoothd
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root    199 2010-03-16 18:43 bmgr
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  14340 2010-04-11 15:41 bootanimation
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root    582 2010-03-16 20:32 boot_maemo
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      9 2010-05-10 19:11 bugreport -> dumpstate
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 cat -> toolbox
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  66724 2010-04-08 15:20 check_prereq
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 chmod -> toolbox
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 chown -> toolbox
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 cmp -> toolbox
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  5512 2010-04-08 15:33 dalvikvm
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 date -> toolbox
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 109460 2010-04-08 15:31 dbus-daemon
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 dd -> toolbox
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  18052 2010-04-08 15:21 debuggerd
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  9740 2010-04-08 15:33 dexopt
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 df -> toolbox
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  44564 2010-04-08 15:28 dhcpcd
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 dmesg -> toolbox
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      9 2010-05-10 19:11 dumpcrash -> dumpstate
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  14216 2010-04-08 15:27 dumpstate
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  9808 2010-04-08 15:30 dumpsys
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  5488 2010-04-08 15:28 dvz
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  12348 2010-04-08 15:21 evtest
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 exists -> toolbox
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  9668 2010-04-08 15:28 flash_image
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  22568 2010-04-08 15:20 fsck_msdos
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 151868 2010-03-16 18:43 gdbserver
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 getevent -> toolbox
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 getprop -> toolbox
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  5524 2010-04-08 15:24 gzip
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  18920 2010-04-08 15:27 hciattach
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  5172 2010-04-08 15:32 hcid
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 hd -> toolbox
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 id -> toolbox
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 ifconfig -> toolbox
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 iftop -> toolbox
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root    194 2010-03-16 18:43 ime
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root    201 2010-03-16 18:43 input
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 insmod -> toolbox
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  14052 2010-04-08 15:28 installd
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 ioctl -> toolbox
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 104952 2010-04-08 15:21 iptables
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  13956 2010-04-08 15:29 keystore
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  6520 2010-03-29 17:58 keystore_cli
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 kill -> toolbox
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  64184 2010-04-08 15:21 linker
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 ln -> toolbox
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 log -> toolbox
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  9760 2010-04-08 15:24 logcat
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  9696 2010-04-08 15:21 logwrapper
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 ls -> toolbox
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 lsmod -> toolbox
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  5436 2010-04-11 15:42 mediaserver
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 mkdir -> toolbox
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root    205 2010-03-16 18:42 monkey
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 mount -> toolbox
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  26412 2010-04-08 15:29 mountd
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  18244 2010-04-08 15:29 mtpd
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 mv -> toolbox
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  5640 2010-04-08 15:30 netcfg
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 netstat -> toolbox
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 newfs_msdos -> toolbox
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 notify -> toolbox
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  26652 2010-04-08 15:21 ping
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root    191 2010-03-16 18:43 pm
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 143580 2010-04-08 15:29 pppd
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 printenv -> toolbox
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 ps -> toolbox
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  13760 2010-04-08 15:29 qemud
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  5516 2010-04-08 15:29 qemu-props
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 163160 2010-04-08 15:29 racoon
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  5420 2010-04-08 15:29 radiooptions
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 reboot -> toolbox
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 301224 2010-04-08 15:21 recovery
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 renice -> toolbox
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  5392 2010-04-08 15:21 retu-adc
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  5628 2010-04-11 15:42 rild
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 rm -> toolbox
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 rmdir -> toolbox
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 rmmod -> toolbox
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 route -> toolbox
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  5396 2010-04-08 15:21 schedtest
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 schedtop -> toolbox
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  50584 2010-04-08 15:24 sdptool
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  9648 2010-04-11 15:42 sdutil
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 sendevent -> toolbox
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  9852 2010-04-08 15:30 service
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  9856 2010-04-08 15:24 servicemanager
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 setconsole -> toolbox
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 setprop -> toolbox
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  86972 2010-04-08 15:21 sh
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  10716 2010-04-08 15:21 showlease
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 sleep -> toolbox
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 smd -> toolbox
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 start -> toolbox
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 stop -> toolbox
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  5432 2010-04-11 15:42 surfaceflinger
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root    192 2010-03-16 18:43 svc
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 sync -> toolbox
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  5424 2010-04-11 15:42 system_server
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  73208 2010-04-08 15:28 toolbox
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 top -> toolbox
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  15984 2010-04-09 11:25 ts_calibrate
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  55540 2010-04-10 17:23 ts_harvest
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  5412 2010-04-09 11:25 ts_print
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  28379 2010-04-10 17:23 ts_print_raw
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  52279 2010-04-10 17:23 ts_test
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 umount -> toolbox
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 247680 2010-04-08 15:21 updater
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 vmstat -> toolbox
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  39044 2010-04-08 15:29 vold
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 watchprops -> toolbox
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 2010-05-10 19:11 wipe -> toolbox
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root    300 2010-04-11 16:00 wlan_loader
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  26676 2010-04-08 15:29 wpa_cli
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 188768 2010-04-08 15:29 wpa_supplicant

twoboxen 2010-05-11 00:37
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic
 
Now that Android on the n900 looks more possible than ever, I'm just curious what you guys think an ideal button map would be. It would be great if we could have the home, menu, and back button functional when in portrait (closed) mode.

I would love to keep the volume rocker dedicated to that, so that would leave the power button, camera button, (maybe) proximity sensor, and (maybe) the power switch.

What if we could use the camera button like it is with camerad... so when the camera was closed it could be a two way switch: click it half way and it would be menu and all the way in would be back? Then the power button could be home.

Thoughts?

God_Lx 2010-05-11 00:39
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic
 
Since the Milestone has similar hardware (Wifi/BT chip maybe ?) would it be helpful to check out if there's a kernel avaiable from one of the roms either the original 2.0.1 or the recently released 2.1 ?

twoboxen 2010-05-11 00:49
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by God_Lx (Post 652576)
Since the Milestone has similar hardware (Wifi/BT chip maybe ?) would it be helpful to check out if there's a kernel avaiable from one of the roms either the original 2.0.1 or the recently released 2.1 ?
I think DJ_Steve is using that. His firmware version in the youtube video was 2.1.

Siggen 2010-05-11 02:41
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by twoboxen (Post 652575)
Now that Android on the n900 looks more possible than ever, I'm just curious what you guys think an ideal button map would be. It would be great if we could have the home, menu, and back button functional when in portrait (closed) mode.

I would love to keep the volume rocker dedicated to that, so that would leave the power button, camera button, (maybe) proximity sensor, and (maybe) the power switch.

What if we could use the camera button like it is with camerad... so when the camera was closed it could be a two way switch: click it half way and it would be menu and all the way in would be back? Then the power button could be home.

Thoughts?
Im not used to using Andorid, but I think it would be very useful having important buttons in portrait with the keyboard shut.

I also think the volume rocker should be used as that,
I think the back button should be put on tapping the proximity sensor, the home button to power, and the menu to the camera while the lid is shut.

As i said i am not used to the feel of android so im not certain, but if the menu button i redundant, (if the functionally is always available on screen) it should be left out, so that it would only be power and camera all the way down to be used as physical buttons.


@DJ_Steve
I also read on wikipedia about user created hacks to add file support for files like flac and better microSD support, these hacks should be added if they are not (all in due time i know, im not asking that you work faster :P ) and i presume that the nitdroid is rooted?

dj_steve 2010-05-11 02:42
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic
 
the kernel im usin is my own custom one based off the original nokia one. rootfs is bdoggs first one with edits. my own android build wont boot yet (if someone can find out info on what problem androids having whenit keeps givin request_state_wake erros i think it was id appreciate it

Hariainm 2010-05-11 03:43
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic
 
perhaps this question sounds like stupid joke but...
if your AWESOME work bring us a fully operative android, can we add a customizable UI like the htc sense? is this even possible?

thanks for your hard work

dj_steve 2010-05-11 03:59
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic
 
dont see why not though sense not built for high res screen like n900.

Siggen 2010-05-11 04:38
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dj_steve (Post 652689)
dont see why not though sense not built for high res screen like n900.
I'm not sure, but i think one would need to create a separate fw image with the default UI swapped with sinceUI. It would be awesome if one could hotswap UIs like with Gnome and KDE on a desktop.

dj_steve 2010-05-11 13:38
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 Development Topic
 
ok anyone got any ideas what /dev node the cell modem works through on maemo ? or any way i can trace said


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