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dj_steve 2010-05-25 18:25

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nothing to do yet, i need to investigate further about it :)

tomaszf 2010-05-25 18:31

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Ok - just out of couriosity. Let's assume kexec works. What's next.? How bootmenu picks up the correct kernel?

Netweaver 2010-05-25 18:32

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maybe have a look at this post, on the kexec issue ? :
https://lists.linux-foundation.org/p...ch/013626.html

dj_steve 2010-05-25 18:32

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thats something id have to look at but ***IF*** kan be made to work boot menu would be rendered basicly null d void as we could get someone to code a basic app for maemo that would run the required commands to boot into android and operate a proper dual boot without any complicated installes (easy debian like)

dj_steve 2010-05-25 18:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Netweaver (Post 676692)
maybe have a look at this post, on the kexec issue ? :
https://lists.linux-foundation.org/p...ch/013626.html

weell thats way over my head lol. im not sure how kexec works fully myself yet

dj_steve 2010-05-25 19:38

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ok back to porting tomorrow so im wondering if anyone on here has manged to/can explain how i can get the 2.6.29 android omap kernel or a newer 2.6.32(froyos base kernel) tro build for n900 as currently i get loads of build errors about omap_derial_init or something, i heard its down to the moto milestone serial drivers but im not sure how to remove those edits

help anyone ?

superg05 2010-05-25 20:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dj_steve (Post 676707)
weell thats way over my head lol. im not sure how kexec works fully myself yet

http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/li...y/l-kexec.html

info and resouces links :D hope that helps alittle

dj_steve 2010-05-25 20:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by superg05 (Post 677037)
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/li...y/l-kexec.html

info and resouces links :D hope that helps alittle

will have a looksie at that tomorrow :)

michalurban 2010-05-26 17:38

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Ad. instructions to install Android on N900 - Would it be possible to upload something like a ZIP file with files I need to move on the SD card? Id like to try in on my device, but I dont know how to patch the kernel and stuff ... :o

dj_steve 2010-05-26 17:58

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theirs a great howto on page 30 :) and im sure someone on here can explain any problems you have (ill help out also where i can, havent had alot of tiem to dev today been busy with other things :(

michalurban 2010-05-26 20:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dj_steve (Post 680216)
theirs a great howto on page 30 :) and im sure someone on here can explain any problems you have (ill help out also where i can, havent had alot of tiem to dev today been busy with other things :(

Page 30 it is. Thanks very much, I look into this thread only few times a month and must have missed it. :)

EDIT: Oh, just figured out that this howto is not for multiboot ... too nasty for me ... :)

brog 2010-05-27 11:51

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Just tried booting Android using the guide on page 30.
Unfortunately, the kernel panic'd so I popped out the battery because I wanted to re-format the sd card and try again.
Now I'm stuck at a Nokia Screen with some icon beneath it (it shows a computer screen with a wrench above it)
When I pop out the battery and put it in again the device doesn't even try to boot, it instantly gets to that screen.

Any suggestions?

Edit: My computer recognises the N900 as an unknown USB Device in this state.
Edit2: Ok, managed to get it into flashing mode. Was quite tricky though: Had to pull out the usb cable, then pop the battery out. After that, I had to plug in the USB cable again and press U while putting the battery back in :rolleyes:

michalurban 2010-05-27 13:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brog (Post 682490)
Just tried booting Android using the guide on page 30.
Unfortunately, the kernel panic'd so I popped out the battery because I wanted to re-format the sd card and try again.
Now I'm stuck at a Nokia Screen with some icon beneath it (it shows a computer screen with a wrench above it)
When I pop out the battery and put it again the device doesn't even try to boot, it instantly gets to that screen.

Any suggestions?

Edit: My computer recognises the N900 as an unknown USB Device in this state.
Edit2: Ok, managed to get it into flashing mode. Was quite tricky though: Hat to pull out the usb cable, then pop the battery out. After that, I had to plug in the USB cable again and press U while putting the battery back in :rolleyes:

WOW! Thanks for sharing this hint, I may end in this kind of sh*t myself ... :)

dj_steve 2010-05-27 14:32

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yep thats the fault of rd mode (trd causes device to boot iteslef once battery is in, and unless u hold u first it wont goto usb mode

Radicalz38 2010-05-27 14:48

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Question here... Upon installing nitdroid would I be able to use it's messaging feature like sending MMS and SMS?

dj_steve 2010-05-27 14:57

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as said a few times previous the current build has NO phone ability yet (de to nokias phonet implementation

Radicalz38 2010-05-27 15:21

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Sorry it ain't easy to backread 62 pages ^_^
One last question if phone ability isn't supported will it be on the near future? I mean are there plans? Or no hope at all?

dj_steve 2010-05-27 16:05

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im hoping it will be, nokia dont make it easy to do though :(

fieryriver 2010-05-27 16:08

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steve has already said previously phone capabilities will be very difficult to impliment. besides this is, i believe, a one guy project so give him time. patience is a virtue :) i'm quite positive we will get a functioning smartphone some day with android/n900. maybe it'll be better than meego who knows :p

dj_steve 2010-05-27 16:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fieryriver (Post 683231)
steve has already said previously phone capabilities will be very difficult to impliment. besides this is, i believe, a one guy project so give him time. patience is a virtue :) i'm quite positive we will get a functioning smartphone some day with android/n900. maybe it'll be better than meego who knows :p

thank you, yes phone i am aiming to get working#

Radicalz38 2010-05-27 17:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dj_steve (Post 683278)
thank you, yes phone i am aiming to get working#

Well then all I can say is good luck and you got my support! And hopefully you will stumble upon some information that would give you a hint on doing it :D

Or maybe any information on where you're stuck to at the moment? Maybe I know of something :o

dj_steve 2010-05-27 17:12

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currently im stuck on how to compile either ofono to work on android (cant seem to get it to build right at min) or how to get pnatd to run in chroot - my kernel is screwed at min though and im not sure if its related to an update pr1.2 did - any ideas anyone

kingoddball 2010-05-28 03:43

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Can android be run in CHROOT (similar to Easy Debian?)?
Seems like a few people are having kernel issues after update to PR1.2.

I had no issues, I used flasher-3.5 to update and I had titans kernel (34?) and then once I updated, there was an update for titans to 37.
Maybe update the kernel (check HAM) or uninstall then reinstall it.

superg05 2010-05-28 04:00

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i don't know if this will help but this is how they did it on the iphone
http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp....porting/10571

and a info packet made by an android porting group called myth buster android suppose to be helpful
http://tree.celinuxforum.org/CelfPub...rs_Android.pdf
found here http://elinux.org/Android_Porting

superg05 2010-05-28 04:38

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heres an idea something Google was working on quietly :)
http://code.google.com/p/mobile-v/wiki/Mission

superg05 2010-05-28 07:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kingoddball (Post 684603)
Can android be run in CHROOT (similar to Easy Debian?)?
Seems like a few people are having kernel issues after update to PR1.2.

I had no issues, I used flasher-3.5 to update and I had titans kernel (34?) and then once I updated, there was an update for titans to 37.
Maybe update the kernel (check HAM) or uninstall then reinstall it.

Ask qole for help

dj_steve 2010-05-28 07:45

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chroot isnt possible without custom kernel. android NEEDS the modified kernel with its additional modules.

maemosboy 2010-05-28 17:47

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How hard is it combine best parts of two kernels??

dj_steve 2010-05-28 17:50

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not too hard but at min i have a new problem, my previosuly working kernel wont boot on pr1.2 updated n900 :S, ive uploaded my kernel source if anyone fancys helping out here ...

www.loadsofspace.net/kern-n900.tbz2

also i got a 2.6.34 kernel patially based on cyanogens work to patially boot but it could only see the phones internal storage (emmc) so im wondering if someone would be willing to investigate that also - will tarball and upload later this eve

dj_steve 2010-05-28 18:00

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currently im working back on NITDroid N8x0 due to the problem im having with n900s kernel, sincei need someone with better skills to examine the n900 issue first. first priority for n8x0 is rebase it to eclair 2.1 - yes ytou read right ive decided to move from 1.6 to 2.1 on the N8x0 - hopefulyl i may be able to get it working well enough to be usable and get battery etc up and going :)

ear0wax 2010-05-28 18:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dj_steve (Post 686286)
currently im working back on NITDroid N8x0 due to the problem im having with n900s kernel, sincei need someone with better skills to examine the n900 issue first.

pr 1.2 updated radio firmwares, maybe that has something to do with it? This was a issue for people running leaked 1.2 and flashing back down to 1.1.1

dj_steve 2010-05-28 18:11

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im not 100% sure but last time i checked the mmc controller didnt have a radio portion lol :) to be honest im not sure why it fails but ill let the community come up with something :) or maybe titan can suggest a reason :)

ear0wax 2010-05-28 18:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dj_steve (Post 686315)
im not 100% sure but last time i checked the mmc controller didnt have a radio portion lol :) to be honest im not sure why it fails but ill let the community come up with something :) or maybe titan can suggest a reason :)

lol, must have missed that part. Well if it becomes worst case scenario well just have to settle for not dual booting.

dj_steve 2010-05-28 18:19

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at min it wont boot android at all (as it cant 'see' the microsd) so im a bit stuck lol. as for N8x0 nitdroid build is now inprogress for eclair 2.1r2 (same build n900 is running) but ive added patches to do armv6 optimization + JIT compiler + V8 Javascript engine in web browser

fieryriver 2010-05-28 18:27

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well take your time steve but don't forget N900 lol

dj_steve 2010-05-28 18:29

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lol i cant really forget it i use maemo5 every day lol.

theonlymac 2010-05-29 15:21

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Hey guys. How can i partition my microSD using windows 7? (32bit)
Or is there an app for the N900 which would let me partition my card? how did you guys do it, i'm really stuck. No free partitioner apps for windows support flash devices!

dj_steve 2010-05-29 15:22

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you could use sfdisk on n900 i think tis on their but ive got no experiance with it so someone else will have to help out their

gokuman56 2010-05-29 20:23

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Can somebody post a video on how to install this on youtube?
Thanks

Flynx 2010-05-30 08:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gokuman56 (Post 688644)
Can somebody post a video on how to install this on youtube?
Thanks

I think we're still waiting for either wifi or cellular to work in nitdroid before we see detailed instructions ;)

right now there is no wifi and no cell, and no dual boot. so it isn't very useful and you would have to go through the process of un-installing nitdroid to get back to maemo.


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